Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months?

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Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months?

Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom build for the next few months?

Or is it going to disapear quickly as soon as Win8 retail is released?


Thanks.

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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/27 17:39:29 (permalink)
    it will be around awhile this time

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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/27 18:35:36 (permalink)
    I just talked to a computer guy and he seem to think that Windows 8 was about Oct. 26th and then I do not know what that computer business will do with the computers they sell.

     
     
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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/27 18:37:45 (permalink)
    I think it depends on what computer manufacturers will do while putting an OS on a computer and that depends on if they put on Windows 8 and leave some with Windows 7 yet to sell depending on what computer you buy.

     
     
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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/27 21:39:15 (permalink)

    Thanks.

    best regards,
    mike


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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/28 06:19:49 (permalink)
    I suspect new "factory" PC's such as Dell, Acer, etc will migrate to Win 8. But custom builders will still offer it. Ultimately it will come down to when Microsoft discontinues selling it.

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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/28 07:19:59 (permalink)

    Thanks.

    I've been putting off getting a fresh new system because the old one works well.

    Still, I'd like to see what all the extra power does for opening up new modes of work flow.

    Every time I think I'll do it I buy another guitar or microphone etc.

    I just wanted to make sure I wasn't about to *sleep* through the end of a sweet spot for hardware/software being matched well.

    At some point I'll just wake up and order one to buy a little more future proofing.


    Thanks again.


    best regards,
    mike

    post edited by mike_mccue - 2012/09/28 07:24:49


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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/28 08:06:32 (permalink)
    trust me you will want win7 over 8...

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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/28 08:33:37 (permalink)
    I've had the beta versions including the "consumer preview" version installed on a PC.  The only thing I can say is "yuck".  I won't be upgrading my production systems to Win 8 for the forseeable future.  I will install it on my "test" system as I do part-time PC support and need it as I know at least one client that is going to upgrade to it.

    Microsoft seems to have "off" Operating Systems, one will be good, the next not so good, the next good, etc.  I suspect Win 8 will be one of the "off" operating systems.   I could go back further (my first dealings with Microsoft was DOS 3.0), but Win 98 was not so good, Win 98SE was good, Win ME not so good, Win XP good, Vista not so good, Win 7 good.

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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/28 08:40:43 (permalink)

    I'm kinda ignorant of what's going on with 8, but I do know that I use a super hi resolution wacom tablet to scoot around the screen real fast yet precisely.

    The idea that an OS might be optimized for my stubby fingers to use a touch screen seems like it's going to cause all kinds of disappointments.

    So, yes... I want to get a Win7 system before it is too late.

    Thanks for the insights.


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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/28 09:35:56 (permalink)
    I went from XP 32 bit (which I hated leaving) to Win 7 64 bit.

    I am happy with the jump.

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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/28 10:06:17 (permalink)
    Well, judging by some of the prices I have seen mentioned for Win 8 upgrades ($39 ?) which are a lot less than WIn 7 upgrades it looks like MS is keen to really push this one out. Will that mean they drop sales sooner? who knows.

    Looks like third parties are already developing work arounds for those that do not like the new interface  http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/

    I can't see corperate customers been over the moon about the Win 8 interface so maybe it will hangaround for a while.

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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/28 10:48:00 (permalink)
    As far as scuttlebut goees in the gossip column, Windows 8 has a kill switch in it, and if the government or anyone wants to stop your computer from being on the Internet due to some security event they can shut down your computer or something like that. I fail to see why Microsoft still thinks that it owns your PC. Sure there is priracy but I and a lot of other people do not do that.

     
     
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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/28 13:24:50 (permalink)
    I'm holding out for Win 9.

    Can't stand the color scheme of Win 8.

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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/28 19:30:54 (permalink)
    why did the cake guy in the blog seem to imply win8 was going to be more efficient, etc?  After reading that, from his perspective, it'd seem like you'd want to have win8 over 7

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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/28 19:32:21 (permalink)

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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/28 20:55:13 (permalink)

    Let us know how it works out.

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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/28 21:11:59 (permalink)
    Win 7 is available to purchase now, in some cases it is already being discounted, or offered with a low cost upgrade to Win 8 when that becomes available. It will likely run on new systems for some time in the future unless some really revolutionary hardware changes get introduced and nobody will write Win 7 compatible drivers, which is unlikely. So the sure way to avoid sleeping through an end of Win 7 marketing is to buy a copy now, and install it yourself when you buy a new system even if that system ships with Win 8. A dual boot or removable drive would let you run both.

    I really think Microsoft is planning to drive Windows off a cliff, and Windows 8 is just the first attempt. They seem really committed to this new model, and have said that backward compatibility to the old (Windows Vista & 7) model is going to be phased out. Since all your old software will not run under Metro, this will require a huge investment in new "apps" just to follow the upgrade path. The computer as a  toy is the new paradigm, and an interface for the illiterate masses is just the tip of the iceberg. An app store is looking like more of a profit center than a stodgy site licensing model for businesses. For the unimaginative who still see the computer as a tool, there will always be Linux. 

    For serious work (like audio editing), Metro (the programming platform not the stupid touch screen illiterate interface) has a very long way to go. But Microsoft has been watching Apple clean up on the computer toy market for years, and has decided to join the party. I am waiting for Cakewalk to realize that they have no future unless they can get Sonar to run on a smart phone.
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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/28 22:28:51 (permalink)
    By slart's reckoning my copy of win 95 is worth a fortune, no?
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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/29 00:18:14 (permalink)
    "Apple clean up on the computer toy market for years"

    I hardly think my MacBook Pro is a toy! It's a powerhouse that does nothing but pound out video after video and oh yeah, NEVER crashes. 

    I do tons of video editing, music production, web development, and much more and it is rock solid. With an SSD drive, i7 processor, and 8GB RAM, the thing just works, and it's fast! 

    I switched over from a PC and little over a year ago and have never regretted it. With programs like Parallel, I can run my Windows only apps on the same screen as my Mac apps (no dual booting)...it is really very impressive. I couldn't have imagined it would be so slick (Parallels just put out a new version...not sure what it was like before that).

    Toy? Not a chance...Workhorse, absolutely!

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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/29 02:05:24 (permalink)
    I doubt anyone was refering to a Mac Back Pro as a toy. Apple's cleaned up the low end computing on iPads and iPhones and MS wants that market.

    If MS and Apple can deliver the toys as well as the high end applications it will be good for all. When the preformance of higher end applications such as DAWs, video editing, CAD and GIS to name a few start to suffer because the OS is optimised for Facebook and Angry Birds, we will all suffer.

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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/29 03:44:16 (permalink)
    Here is a slightly related thread in the Coffee House http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?high=&m=2677205&mpage=1#2677251

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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/29 06:15:12 (permalink)
    Apple has bombed with the new maps app, so they are fallible and put out "bad software" just like the competition they does and they infer that they don't....... I have an iPad3 and the updated iOS6 and the new Apple map app. I don't use that for turn by turn directions. But it is not very good compared to the Google that was installed.

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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/29 11:16:22 (permalink)
    mixmkr


    why did the cake guy in the blog seem to imply win8 was going to be more efficient, etc?  After reading that, from his perspective, it'd seem like you'd want to have win8 over 7

    read this
     
    http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/762183-my-windows-7-vs-windows-8-dawbench-results.html
     

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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/29 12:28:13 (permalink)




    I hardly think my MacBook Pro is a toy! It's a powerhouse that does nothing but pound out video after video and oh yeah, NEVER crashes.


    No the MacBook Pro is not a toy. And given that the operating system can be designed around a motherboard that is fully defined to the developer, that the peripherals must all meet Apple's standards and that the software must pretty much all be Apple certified, it is not surprising that it rarely crashes. The iPad is primarily a toy for most users, however, and is outselling the industrial strength machines in the Apple fleet by orders of magnitude. Apple could lose their real computer business entirely and still be hugely profitable.


    Until recently, Microsoft has not been a computer builder, but an operating system monopolist, and somewhat less successful application developer. Lately, Microsoft has been suffering from a probably terminal case of Apple-envy, and has responded by trying to copy what it sees as Apple advantages. So we have the developer of the de facto universal operating system, requiring driver certification for add ons, certification for software etc. These are things that will make life easier for MS but maybe harder for the host of hardware and software developers who have fed at the Windows trough so successfully. By entering into direct competition with these commensal entities via production of their own tablets, Microsoft has found another way to get a leg up on the competition.

    In trying to integrate an operating system that will look good on a tablet, and host a multitude of silly (but profitable)  little "apps," with a universal OS for serious computing, however, Microsoft is in danger of throwing out the baby with the bath. Clearly that is what most of the market wants. If Microsoft runs after this market and tries to out-Apple Apple, to the detriment of "serious" computing, it does not bode well for Windows based computing, or for the variety and innovation that a sort-of open OS has provided for the past few decades.
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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/29 12:38:49 (permalink)
    Thanks Scott.  The GS thread made me think even more things are still in question.  Honestly, I'm not learned enough to say which is right.

    Any rate, kinda watching things, as I've inquired with you guys in the past, only to have my funds evaporate (and my dinosaur P4 is still working great with Sonar 7pe).

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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/29 12:43:10 (permalink)

    Thanks for posting that link Scott.

    best regards,
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    Re:Will Win7 64 be available for purchase with a custom buld for the next few months? 2012/09/29 13:24:33 (permalink)
    Someone in that thread mentioned that we've all seen this before (cyclical)... and I would agree.
    Unless you like testing, it's best to sit out the first 6-12 months of a major new OS release.


    Vista brought significant change... and there were certainly issues/problems early on.
    I was critical of Vista... but by SP2 it was a decent DAW platform.
    Win7 was a further refinement of Vista... not a major change.  Thus, it's roll-out was smooth.


    Think back to Win95...
    It took a while to solidify/develop as a DAW platform.
    Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.
    The more things change, the more they stay the same.


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