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2008/10/30 19:02:53 (permalink)

Will you buy it?

Will you buy the V-Studio 700 (in it's first incarnation) and why?
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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/10/30 19:54:31 (permalink)
    I've been giving it some thought, hypothetically. The controller seems like a no-brainer. But the whole package comes down to the convertors. If they are superior, great deal. If they are good, more qualified yes.

    Seth said they are the same as the Roland/Cake live unit. Has anyone used this. I haven't heard anything bad anywhere about them, which I'd expect if they weren't up to snuff.

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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/10/30 22:30:28 (permalink)
    Hi Ed,

    I'll stick with my Yamaha hardware for now, thanks. But where can I get one of those fascinating T-bar controllers?




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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/10/31 11:29:17 (permalink)
    It does come down to the sound. I thought I read/heard an interview with one of the Roland guys who said that they really focused on the quality of the pres and converters because if they didn't sound excellent then there was no point in making the product. And also, they're the same pres/converters as in the REAC system which gets good reviews for sound quality.

    I don't do a whole lot of synth stuff and Sonar's bundled synths are way over the top for what I do so I might not use the Fantom--but on the other hand, if the Fantom will cover everything I need, then I wouldn't need to load my CPU with soft synths. So depending on how I look at it the integrated Fantom is either a liability (I'd be paying for something I wouldn't use) or an asset (it would free up my CPU from having to run the soft synths) to the package. At this point I don't know which one it is.

    The main thing is sound quality. If I can get a listen to the system, and if it sounds really good, then yes I'll try to buy it. I've been wanting a decent audio interface and control surface for my home studio and this system integrates so nicely with Sonar that it's almost a no-brainer. The "almost" part being the price. For everything that's included, I think it's a fair price. I just don't know if I can afford it.
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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/10/31 13:33:36 (permalink)
    Will you buy the V-Studio 700 (in it's first incarnation) and why?


    Probably not, unless they have a controller only version. I would rather pick and choose my interface. But who knows, maybe the IO will sound great even though it is a little gimmicky. (integrated synth module, come-on, that will be obsolete in 2 years, it's not a keyboard)
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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/10/31 13:47:34 (permalink)
    No because I have all the hardware instruments I need and also I would not want to buy something that is so linked to one particular piece of software. What happens if you fall out with Sonar and decide to switch to another DAW you then have an expensive piece of hardware that is not compatible with other software.
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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/10/31 14:10:43 (permalink)
    It will work in mackie mode.

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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/10/31 16:17:17 (permalink)
    No. I will buy one when I can get the controller alone.

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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/10/31 17:48:15 (permalink)
    Yes. I've been considering new ADDA's, Pres and a Control Surface. I'm also getting into some video work so looks something I can get a lot of use out of now and in the future. I've even thought about using it for small live venues. So I'm 99% sure I'm getting one. For me the timing is perfect.
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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/10/31 19:02:07 (permalink)
    Nope. I was totally disappointed with this. However, after some thought, I understand why they'd come out with an all in one to gain market share at this time. Now, if and when I can get a rockin control surface only, I'd probably bite. Also, for the audio, I'd like to see something with more i/o's.
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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/11/01 09:35:21 (permalink)

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    Also, for the audio, I'd like to see something with more i/o's.

    How many I/Os? It has 19 ins and 24 outs, and you can add another box (but I don't know how much that would cost) for 37/48 I/O.

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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/11/01 15:14:35 (permalink)
    19 ins at what depth/rate?

    It's the same old problem... if you want to use all the inputs listed... you have to sacrifice depth/rate potential.

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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/11/01 15:33:00 (permalink)
    very likely yes, because i will be installing myself into a new composing/mini recording studio at the time it comes out, and if the preamps etc are good, it will solve alot of needs in one go :)
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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/11/01 15:51:56 (permalink)
    At this time it's out of consideration. I'll be waiting for a controller only version. I have 16 channels of solid ADAT I/O and a PCI card with stable drivers that I don't want to have to sell and replace.

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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/11/01 17:47:21 (permalink)
    At this time it's out of consideration. I'll be waiting for a controller only version. I have 16 channels of solid ADAT I/O and a PCI card with stable drivers that I don't want to have to sell and replace.


    Ya, Im with Dave on this one. Besides, I can think of better ways to spend $4000 in my studio.

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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/11/02 00:57:07 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: bapu

    Will you buy the V-Studio 700 (in it's first incarnation) and why?




    Maybe a better question to ask:

    If you are looking into acquiring a Protools rig for your studio, would you consider Sonar V-Studio 700 instead?


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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/11/03 08:44:19 (permalink)
    I don't think so.
    Not this version anyway.
    First I'm a lover of my 2480 ande would have paid a lot for hardware upgrades. Installed at a service center, perhaps FW and USB2 IO or FX cards with huge memory or a real processdr and HD...
    Roland could have made a lot from that.
    Second I'd want more faders.
    Third I want it as rock solid as a 2480.
    Fourth with the softsynths I really don't care much about a Fantom module.

    Plus:

    I own Sonar P 8 and it seems I get hosed with a mere 200$ rebate.

    But 4 grand for a control surface and a HW synth?
    C'mon.
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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/11/04 19:54:14 (permalink)
    Not unless they seperate it.

    Do you think Cakewalk have gotten the hint by now?
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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/11/04 20:01:19 (permalink)
    I want to buy now. Better will come. I have a blackbird 13 studio design.

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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/11/04 20:04:59 (permalink)
    commit to solid studio design first. then a theta clear picture shall be seen. the same old theta clear steve you have come to love and know.

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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/11/05 05:36:33 (permalink)
    Probably not, though I really couldnt decide until there's some substantive info about the synth part. It is 1/3 of the package afterall.

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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/11/05 12:30:41 (permalink)
    Do you think Cakewalk have gotten the hint by now?


    Maybe yes, maybe no.
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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/11/06 17:28:47 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: bapu
    Will you buy the V-Studio 700 (in it's first incarnation) and why?


    As it stands now, no way. Many of the features look very cool, but will not add much functionality that I don't already have in my current studio's set up. Also, until Sonar finally vamps up their video post-production support- Sonar will never be a real "go-to" application for that kind of work. The work flow is just too clumsy and cluttered. Programs like Cubase, Nuendo, DP5, Logic 8 and Pro Tools do a much cleaner and more fluid approach to post production work with video. If that isn't what your studio's main work is- then this might be a great option for you.

    Plus at over $4,000: this really isn't that great of a deal. A Digidesign 003 rack is about half the price and offers many of the same features, and takes up less space on your desk. :)

    Just my thoughts,

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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/11/07 01:27:24 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: aoresteen

    No. I will buy one when I can get the controller alone.



    Agreed...I assume Sonar realise that some of us have all the rest of the stuff and have suffered the TASCAM CS disasters...I'm looking forward to the guys who buy the package giving us the low-down on the CS. ACtually, thinking about it...yes, I would really like a very tightly integrated CS for my SONAR product..

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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/11/07 11:24:41 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: nathan.madsen

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    As it stands now, no way. Many of the features look very cool, but will not add much functionality that I don't already have in my current studio's set up. Also, until Sonar finally vamps up their video post-production support- Sonar will never be a real "go-to" application for that kind of work. The work flow is just too clumsy and cluttered. Programs like Cubase, Nuendo, DP5, Logic 8 and Pro Tools do a much cleaner and more fluid approach to post production work with video. If that isn't what your studio's main work is- then this might be a great option for you.

    Plus at over $4,000: this really isn't that great of a deal. A Digidesign 003 rack is about half the price and offers many of the same features, and takes up less space on your desk. :)

    Just my thoughts,

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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/11/07 21:04:38 (permalink)
    Nope won't buy it. Roland is having a hard time delivering discs with serial numbers...how will they get this right? Imagine the added hold time waiting for tech support with a new product line on their plate. I don't think so...I'm sensing that they're already in over their heads.

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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/11/08 04:58:54 (permalink)
    Yes, I plan to. I'm going to hook it up ADAT to my Motu 2408 Mk3 and use it as a dedicated Synth + extension to my system. The eight direct audio channels from my Mackie 1604 VLZ3 will occupy the same spot and I'l be able to monitor the new Synth through one of the other eight channels on the Mackie while it is in split mode. The control surface will be just that, freeing up the workflow from the computer keyboard. The new ins and outs on the V-700 offer a range of possible intstruments to use with the Synth or as channels 9 thru 16. Just because the the control interface will hook through the Synth - in out module doesn't mean you are limited to it's eight channels. Am I wrong?
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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/11/08 06:39:10 (permalink)
    I guess a lot depends on whether the synth can access the VStudio midi & audio I/O ports directly or whether they're constrained to the USB - in which case you'd have to bounce the signal in to your PC & input echo it back out from Sonar.


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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/11/08 13:12:15 (permalink)
    the more i think about it, the more I realize what a glaring omission it is to not have fx included with it. That would have been much better than the fantom synth. And roland already makes great fx processors, so it seems pretty obvious that that would have been way more useful (and logical) than a synth.


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    RE: Will you buy it? 2008/11/08 17:23:50 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: sandman5000

    the more i think about it, the more I realize what a glaring omission it is to not have fx included with it. That would have been much better than the fantom synth. And roland already makes great fx processors, so it seems pretty obvious that that would have been way more useful (and logical) than a synth.





    THANK YOU! I thought I was the only one who felt this way.
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