Win 10 >> worst latency is now 0.30 with DirectX Graphics Kernel

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2015/08/18 20:54:28 (permalink)

Win 10 >> worst latency is now 0.30 with DirectX Graphics Kernel

I don't know how to disable or otherwise help this not be an issue.
 
I discovered it running Latency Mon on my Windows 10 Pro computer.

StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    gswitz
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    Re: Win 10 >> worst latency is now 0.30 with DirectX Graphics Kernel 2015/08/18 21:17:45 (permalink)
    I browsed the Services list looking for what I might control...
     
    I disabled these...
    Peer Networking Grouping
    Peer Name Resolution
    TCP/IP NetBios Helper
    VIA Karaoke Digital Mixer Service (What is this!!)
    Net.Tcp Port Sharing Service
    Remote Registry
    Routing and Remote Access
    Smart Card
     
    These I switched to manual
    WebClient
    Touch Keyboard and Handwriting Panel
    Themes
     
     
    I noticed that you can disable the Windows Update Service in the Services list.
     
    DirectX is still my worst offender, but it's at 0.14 rather than 0.3 right now (after monitoring for 15 minutes).
    post edited by gswitz - 2015/08/18 21:26:22

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    Re: Win 10 >> worst latency is now 0.30 with DirectX Graphics Kernel 2015/08/19 00:23:38 (permalink)
    Make sure there are no power management features set on your graphics card. It should be running full and not on adaptive.
    If it's nvidia it's somewhere in the control panel.
     
    Check your startup apps as well.
    post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/08/19 00:31:31

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    Re: Win 10 >> worst latency is now 0.30 with DirectX Graphics Kernel 2015/08/19 13:32:26 (permalink)
    gswitz
    I don't know how to disable or otherwise help this not be an issue.
     
    I discovered it running Latency Mon on my Windows 10 Pro computer.




    Did you try running a project?  Latency Mon can drive you crazy trying to fix something and many articles to fix that are outdated.  I decide to ignore it.

    Sonar Platinum, W7 Pro 32GB Ram, Intel i7 4790, AsRock Z97 Pro 4,  NVidia 750ti, AP2496
     
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    Re: Win 10 >> worst latency is now 0.30 with DirectX Graphics Kernel 2015/08/19 22:28:00 (permalink)
    @Alex,
    You may be onto something there. I use an AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series that came with my Studio Cat. If there's a setting in there to make it work nicely, I sure can't find it, but there are thousands of settings.
     
    @KiteKrazy1,
    Yep, I'm with you. If it works, who cares, right? But as in the video I show above, I get glitches when opening projects etc. Once opened, they work fine. I recorded 10 tracks at 96 tonight for hours without issue at 48 sample buffer, so like 1.5 Msecs round trip or something crazy like that. I even tried dragging FX into it (without pausing the recording) and it didn't drop out. I was recording the Metronome. I flipped the polarity on every other one and bounced to find a glitch and there were none.
     
    That said, it's frustrating when you flip between projects to copy audio around and have to close out of Sonar and open it up again.
     
    I'm not sure that Latency Mon is doing a great job on Windows 10, but I am using the latest version that supports Win 10. From a latency perspective, Sonar seems to be working fine. I'm not getting dropouts and I can record and mix happily.
     
    My problem comes when I copy audio around.
     
    Deleting the Aud.ini file has not helped me (this is what Cake Support asked me to do today). Immediately after deleting it, I wasn't able to replicate the issue, but I am now. It's not 100% of the time.
     
    I'm starting to wonder if it has to do with driver sharing around various windows... Like if I watch a bit of a Ted Talk (Victor Wooten) and then go to mess with Cakewalk, is that what causes it? I really don't know.
     
    But it's a real drag. Watch the video
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3270705
    and you can see why it would be a bummer.
     
    In Latency mon, I only get a spike around once every 1/2 hour. other than that, I'm all green all the time. The spike is in Highest measured interrupt to process latency metric.
    post edited by gswitz - 2015/08/19 22:58:04

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    Re: Win 10 >> worst latency is now 0.30 with DirectX Graphics Kernel 2015/08/19 22:55:19 (permalink)
    I want to make sure it isn't the Windows Update Service causing the spike, so I went into Manage My Computer, Services, Windows Update and disabled the service.
     
    I'll run latency mon for a while and see what I learn.
     
    ** That wasn't it. I still got the spike. So I re-enabled Windows Update Service.
    post edited by gswitz - 2015/08/19 23:10:12

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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