DaveT
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Win 7 Home or Pro, 64 bit
Talked to my hardware guy this morning about upgrading my DAW to Windows 7, 64 bit. He says Win7 Home 64 bit will work fine for me. I've always used "Pro" versions since Windows 2000 and XP. He says my MOBO, proc and memory will be OK.
I'll be adding 2 GB of memory.
What versions are you guys using for Windows 7, Sonar 8.5?
TIA,
DaveT
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Re:Win 7 Home or Pro, 64 bit
2011/04/19 16:29:21
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DaveT
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Re:Win 7 Home or Pro, 64 bit
2011/04/20 11:55:14
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Bump....
What only one response!! There must be others out there.
Thanks Beagle, love that photo.
DaveT
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Re:Win 7 Home or Pro, 64 bit
2011/04/20 15:38:41
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Re:Win 7 Home or Pro, 64 bit
2011/04/24 05:36:16
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I run W7 64-bit Pro. Use my machine for UDK, Wwise etc. and also wanted the XP emulation. Really like W7 as an OS, especially after installing Stardock but I miss the custom toolbars from XP ;(
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DaveT
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Re:Win 7 Home or Pro, 64 bit
2011/04/24 14:47:53
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Just an FYI, but so far my upgrade to Win7 Pro 64 bit has been a bust. My MOBO is an Intel DP 965 LT, that of course isn't supported
for Win7. Hardware guy said it will work, but "work" is a relative term here. The OS is installed, Sonar 8.5.2 is installed, but so far I can't get Sonar to load up even the most simple projects. The only thing Sonar has done so far is give me an SFZ error.
I've done the Intel "update your drivers thing", solved some Win7 stuff that was consuming resources, patched the thing to death, the PC still feels real clunky. I can't even get the event viewer to open to see what might be going on.
So, if anyone has suggestions please send them along.
I'm on my XP drive now, so it's back to making music.
Thanks to everyone who responded.
DaveT
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Re:Win 7 Home or Pro, 64 bit
2011/04/24 16:26:20
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Hi Dave,
first I should have suggested running the microsoft win7 upgrade advisor before installing win7. it can tell you if your motherboard or other hardware doesn't have driver support for win7 or not.
sorry about that. i know what a frustration it is to try to upgrade sometimes.
as far as the feeling "clunky" - what is your system that you're installing win7 onto?
which "event viewer" are you talking about? in windows or sonar?
and as far as sonar errors, first, 8.5.3 is the latest sonar 8.5 update, you should download and install the latest update. and not opening simple project - we need more details on what is happening when you say they won't load. what exactly are you seeing on your screen after you try to open a project?
and for the SFZ error - can you tell us EXACTLY what the error says? do you have SFZ in your projects?
also, are you running sonar 8.5 in 32bit mode or 64bit mode? which did you install and which are you running?
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Re:Win 7 Home or Pro, 64 bit
2011/04/24 19:20:52
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Beagle,
The PC is a white box clone, Intel DP965LT MOBO, 4 GB of RAM, Core2Duo 6600 @ 2.4 GHz. I've turned off the swap file, System Restore.
The event viewer I'm refering to is the Windows event viewer. I did see the AudioSnap update, didn't check the details because I don't use audio snap.
The SFZ error mentioned memory corruption, but I didn't write down the details. Sonar is intalled in 64 bit mode, I'm at version 8.5.2.222.
The Win7 install feels clunky, screens don't switch as smooth as I'm used to. As mentioned I can't even open the Windows event viewer. Seems
to take way longer to start Windows than it should. I keep my PC very clean, so the WinXP install is very quick, works really well. Win7 doesn't feel right, ya know?
Thanks for the heads up on the Sonar update. I'll give that a shot.
DaveT
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Re:Win 7 Home or Pro, 64 bit
2011/04/24 19:28:31
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you might not have good video drivers for win7 for your video card. win7 uses a lot more resources for video if you have AERO on (that's what makes it look "cool").
what video card do you have or are you using your motherboard onboard video?
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Re:Win 7 Home or Pro, 64 bit
2011/04/24 19:37:46
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I've got an NVIDA Gforce 8400. There was a Windows driver update for this video card that I installed. I've seen AERO mentioned
in other forums. The clunkyness does feel like a video issue. I'll look into turning that off, or removing it.
Thanks,
DT
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Re:Win 7 Home or Pro, 64 bit
2011/04/26 14:30:39
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DaveT
Talked to my hardware guy this morning about upgrading my DAW to Windows 7, 64 bit. He says Win7 Home 64 bit will work fine for me. I've always used "Pro" versions since Windows 2000 and XP. He says my MOBO, proc and memory will be OK.
I'll be adding 2 GB of memory.
What versions are you guys using for Windows 7, Sonar 8.5?
TIA,
DaveT
Pro has additional networking features, like the ability to join an Active Directory domain which is probably useless to you. One thing that may be useful though, is Pro has Remote Desktop whereas Home does not. At least that's how it's been with XP and Vista. I find Remote Desktop to be very useful and really missed it on my Vista64/Home laptop. I would go with Pro for that feature alone.
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Re:Win 7 Home or Pro, 64 bit - Update
2011/04/26 17:09:40
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Still can't get Sonar to run on this install. Described the issues I've got to my hardware guy this morning.
He says I need the Intel Desktop Management Engine. The hell of it is, like I said before, there isn't any support
from Intel for this MOBO and Windows 7. So he says, use the one for Vista!!
OK, so I have the file and I'll install it when I get home. If you've been following this saga, stay tuned: I'll post the results tonight.
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Re:Win 7 Home or Pro, 64 bit - Update
2011/04/26 19:45:04
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that doesn't sound good. but let us know.
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DaveT
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Re:Win 7 Home or Pro, 64 bit
2011/04/26 22:21:30
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OK, progress. The Desktop Engine app got Sonar to open, but Sonar is dropping out. Won't play at all. I resolved some other Windows issues too. I'm installing a new graphics driver now. I had a beta Lynx driver installed, but I replaced it with an older version.
More as I get it.
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Re:Win 7 Home or Pro, 64 bit
2011/04/27 09:07:49
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I don't see your soundcard listed in this thread. what soundcard do you have?
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DaveT
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Re:Win 7 Home or Pro, 64 bit
2011/04/27 12:07:27
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Lynx L22. It works fine with Windows media player.
Well, I'm dyin' here. Finally threw in the towel and started over. I'm Windows patching the beast as we speak.
Going to try one more time to get Sonar working. Hardware guy said he would take a look at it too.
More as I get it.
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Re:Win 7 Home or Pro, 64 bit
2011/04/27 13:22:28
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when you say you can't get sonar to run, what EXACTLY is happening?
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DaveT
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Re:Win 7 Home or Pro, 64 bit
2011/04/27 14:07:00
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Sonar hangs when I try to open a very simple project. Sonar will launch, so I can get to the menu items to adjust audio settings, global setting, MIDI and the like. Task manager shows "Sonar Not Responding", I have to kill the process to exit.
The PC is starting to behave better. I can open the Windows Event Log viewer now. The NVIDA video driver
update worked this time (it failed before).
I'm thinking that I should try installing Sonar in 32 bit mode, see what happens.
Other than that I'm open to any other ideas. :>)
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Re:Win 7 Home or Pro, 64 bit
2011/04/27 14:46:14
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AHA!
yes, I think you should try 32bit mode. I suspect your problem is with a 32bit plugin in your project.
I would further suspect that if you started a new project in 64bit sonar that it would work fine - you might even try that for information purposes.
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Re:Win 7 Home or Pro, 64 bit
2011/04/27 17:36:20
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To answer your question, yes I could open a new project in 64 bit.
So, I installed Sonar in 32 bit mode and it opened one old project. Sonar is barking about SD3 not in the synth rack, so I might have to update the project. Anyway, for now it seems to be working. Don't have the breakout cable for my audio interface here, but I can see meters bouncing so I think it's fixed.
I'll know more tomorrow.
Thanks again for the help....
DaveT
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Re:Win 7 Home or Pro, 64 bit - The Solution
2011/04/29 12:06:36
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FWIW, all the angst in this upgrade was caused by the additional memory installed to support
Windows 7. It worked just enough to get the thing going.
The vendor says the memory is correct, but it won't run properly. So, I'm back on the original
2GB I had, we're working on getting the proper 2GB.
PC runs great now!!! All is good.
DaveT
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