Windows 10 Anybody?

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2015/06/16 20:32:28 (permalink)

Windows 10 Anybody?

Is it advisable to upgrade to Windows 10 with Sonar Platinum once the release date arrives? 
 
I would prefer to upgrade rather than do a fresh install. Tons of apps to reinstall... (eeek!)
 
I am currently using Windows 7/64 and I really like the way my PC is working now...
 
What do the Sonar techs say about comparability issues?
 
Also, how well does Melodyne work in Windows 10?
 
Drivers for Roland Quad Capture audio interface?
Drivers for ATI graphics card?
 
If you are planning on upgrading or doing a fresh install please say why and why not.
 
If you are planning on putting the upgrade off for a bit please indicate why. 
 
Thanks in advance!
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    charlyg
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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/06/16 20:35:13 (permalink)
    I'm on it and having NO issues.

     
     
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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/06/16 20:37:51 (permalink)
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    I'm on it and having NO issues.


    Nice! Did you upgrade or fresh install?
     
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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/06/16 20:45:45 (permalink)
    I upgraded, and then cloned it to an SSD. It wouldn't install straight to an SSD....I am liking it more every day....... My install of 8 was new (computer upgrade and bogus Win7 license), and for some reason, I couldn't get 8.1 to install (some weird issue), so I just jumped ahead...and I'm glad I did.

     
     
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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/06/16 21:28:11 (permalink)
    Take a full backup using software that allows you to restore to bare metal.  Then you can have a crack at upgrading and if it all turns to mud, restore from backup.  That's what I will be doing.  The important thing is to have a plan to roll back to your pre-Windows 10 environment should you need to, without too much fuss or effort.  A third party backup app that can do a full restore from its own bootable media is the best way to go.
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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/06/16 21:38:22 (permalink)
    As you mentioned, drivers are the main concern.  I'm sure ATI will be up to date upon the release of the final version.  Roland, not so sure.
     
    By the way, I have Windows 7, 8.1, and 10 beta on my machines.  The Windows 10 beta is on a non-music machine, but I really like it so far.
     
     
    post edited by riojazz - 2015/06/16 21:45:13

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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/06/16 22:15:51 (permalink)
    I'm going to run with as soon as it RTM's. I'm like that though.
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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/06/17 02:11:47 (permalink)
    Well - I still have an Focusrite Saffire Firewire. This is that older white/silver model with 2 inputs and 8 outputs (digital out not used).
     
    Problem is - Firewire support is not that great in Windows 8.1, and I never got my Saffire working in anything higher than Windows 7. As far as I know Windows 10 has no better support, so that would left me with an not working audio device. Focusrite sadly does not support their old hardware that good, so chances they will release an updated driver are almost zero.
     
    Buying something of an similar quality with the same number of in/outputs is not really fitting to my budget right now (we are looking at an price tag of €200 to €400 - yes in Europe things are expensive).
     
    So - for now, no Windows 10 for me...
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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/06/17 02:18:57 (permalink)
    I'm running an aging MOTU 8pre FireWire interface on Windows 8.1 just fine. I'm not sure why you think that FireWire support is not that great. By every report I've read fw support will continue in 10. Manufacturer's drivers are another issue for sure but the problem would not be FireWire.
    post edited by kevinwal - 2015/06/17 02:27:50
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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/06/17 02:45:56 (permalink)
    @kevinwal
     
    Well - problem is, that from Windows 8 the legacy support (drivers) of FireWire is removed. This has to be installed separately (Microsoft provided that drivers for download after complaints), but sadly this will not work with the older Saffire drivers. The legacy drivers used in Windows 7 worked great, but those installed in Windows 8 (and higher) just do not work. I tried it several times, but it was an no-go.
     
    So- while FireWire is supported in Windows 8/10 there are differences that can have impact on some older hardware (mind you - I do not say every hardware). MOTU has good supported drivers. I wish I would have spend an little more an few years back to get that hardware, but well.. Budget is not always that great...
     
    Glad it is working for you tough..
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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/06/17 13:05:32 (permalink)
    If if works in W8.1 it will work in W10.  Not too long ago I found a vendor who sold Windows Anytime Upgrade from W7 Home to Pro.   They turned out to be OEM licenses which can be a hassle upgrading hardware. MS is no longer doing OEM licenses so I'm upgrading all systems to W10.  It is a nice OS.
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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/06/17 14:18:34 (permalink)
    I've been using it for a while without issue...my Focusrite Forte works
    without issue...and ALL my DAW's and programs are fine with it....
    I upgraded from Win 8.1....


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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/06/17 21:51:54 (permalink)
    I have the tech preview and everything works so far.
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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/06/18 07:54:18 (permalink)
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    @kevinwal
     
    Well - problem is, that from Windows 8 the legacy support (drivers) of FireWire is removed. This has to be installed separately (Microsoft provided that drivers for download after complaints), but sadly this will not work with the older Saffire drivers. The legacy drivers used in Windows 7 worked great, but those installed in Windows 8 (and higher) just do not work. I tried it several times, but it was an no-go.
     
    So- while FireWire is supported in Windows 8/10 there are differences that can have impact on some older hardware (mind you - I do not say every hardware). MOTU has good supported drivers. I wish I would have spend an little more an few years back to get that hardware, but well.. Budget is not always that great...
     
    Glad it is working for you tough..


    You can download the legacy FireWire drivers from MS. However if you are using the latest mix control Focusrite DO NOT recommend the legacy FireWire drivers (like they have done with previous versions).

    If you have issues with latest drivers. Full uninstall mixcontrol, reboot, install latest. Reset settings within mix control everywhere. Once it's configured save it to hardware.

    Saffire Pro 40 and Win 8.1 work great for me.
    post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/06/18 08:08:29

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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/06/18 15:51:18 (permalink)
    FYI from BOSS.  I have some of their gear ...
     
    http://www.boss.info/support/support_news/250011
     

    About BOSS product support for Windows(R) 10

    Thank you sincerely for your ongoing use of products from BOSS.
    Our statement regarding the use of BOSS products in combination with Microsoft Windows 10 is as follows.
    At present, the drivers compatible with Microsoft(R) Windows(R) 8/8.1 that are available from BOSS's website do not support Windows 10.
    With respect to Windows 10 compatibility information for BOSS products and driver support, we will proceed with verification following the release of the official version of Windows 10. We ask for your patience for the while until the information becomes available. We plan to announce the status of Windows 10 compatibility for BOSS products that are compatible with Windows 8.1.

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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/06/18 18:49:25 (permalink)
    So they didn't work with Microsoft? They are waiting until release to start working on a driver? Way to be proactive!

     
     
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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/06/18 19:32:57 (permalink)
    The Win 8.1 drivers for my Roland Studio-Capture work on Win 10.  The Vista drivers for my Frontier Tranzport work in Win 10 (but they must be installed in compatibility mode, the same as I had to do for Win 8.1).  My BCF2000 worked with Windows plug and play drivers.
     
    Unless there is some specific item, in most cases if it works on Win 8.1 it will work in Win 10.

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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/06/18 19:44:37 (permalink)
    They have a nasty habit of owning the "won't work in another OS" version. All some do is ask for a specific version and if it ain't there, they won't install. It has little to do with whether or not the driver itself is compatible. Not a good model of efficiency...
    post edited by charlyg - 2015/06/18 21:10:54

     
     
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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/06/18 20:52:59 (permalink)
    fireberd
    The Win 8.1 drivers for my Roland Studio-Capture work on Win 10.  The Vista drivers for my Frontier Tranzport work in Win 10 (but they must be installed in compatibility mode, the same as I had to do for Win 8.1).  My BCF2000 worked with Windows plug and play drivers.
     
    Unless there is some specific item, in most cases if it works on Win 8.1 it will work in Win 10.




    It's prolly Roland's way of avoiding a support headaches until they get thru quals on 10.

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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/06/20 14:51:10 (permalink)
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    @kevinwal
     
    Well - problem is, that from Windows 8 the legacy support (drivers) of FireWire is removed. This has to be installed separately (Microsoft provided that drivers for download after complaints), but sadly this will not work with the older Saffire drivers. The legacy drivers used in Windows 7 worked great, but those installed in Windows 8 (and higher) just do not work. I tried it several times, but it was an no-go.
     
    So- while FireWire is supported in Windows 8/10 there are differences that can have impact on some older hardware (mind you - I do not say every hardware). MOTU has good supported drivers. I wish I would have spend an little more an few years back to get that hardware, but well.. Budget is not always that great...
     
    Glad it is working for you tough..


    You can download the legacy FireWire drivers from MS. However if you are using the latest mix control Focusrite DO NOT recommend the legacy FireWire drivers (like they have done with previous versions).

    If you have issues with latest drivers. Full uninstall mixcontrol, reboot, install latest. Reset settings within mix control everywhere. Once it's configured save it to hardware.

    Saffire Pro 40 and Win 8.1 work great for me.



    I do not doubt that, but -as I said- I have an Saffire (the white/silver model), and that latest mixcontrol does not support that older hardware. So I have to use the outdated mixcontrol and the legacy drivers. As I have no budget at this moment to buy newer hardware with the same capability's as my present hardware, upgrading to Windows 10 for me is an no-go.
     
    It is no Windows problem (although it is an bit strange the Windows 8 legacy drivers seem to work different than the Windows 7 legacy drivers) . It is Focusrite that does not want to support older hardware on newer windows.. 
    post edited by JClosed - 2015/06/20 15:00:13
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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/06/21 17:28:11 (permalink)
    I have it on all my PCs and even my Phone. I love it. I got a new pad on Friday (Asus T100TA) and the first thing i did was installing windows 10. It Works as great as 32bit as 64bit. My pad only har 2 GB or ram and it is not that troublesome. Only thing is that too many internet sides opened at once makes it leggy. But for those not familiar to development of software stay away before the official release. Because for now your on your own regard of safety and failure.
    I am looking for the new release coming next week. 10147 or something. This will give a huge amount of bug fixes.
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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/06/21 23:10:42 (permalink)
    Jarvsve, have they released the full tablet experience yet?
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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/07/31 05:48:33 (permalink)
    I've just hit this brick wall with my MOTU Traveler.  Windows 10 is amazing and loving it but my audio is bricked for now.
     
    Has anyone tried running one with the Firewire legacy drivers?

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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/07/31 11:27:08 (permalink)
    I stuck it on my laptop and it works very well. Desktop I'm holding off until compatibility testing has been done. At this time NI and Waves both don't have statements on Windows 10. There's no reason they shouldn't work, but I'll wait. Since 8.1 works fine and I don't wanna have issues o my main system, I'm going to wait on official support from Focusrite, NI, and Waves (and Cakewalk but they already have it) just to avoid any problems.
     
    I did an upgrade, which worked fine, because I wanted to see how well it'd go. The desktop will be a fresh install.
     
    AMD has drivers and they work as well as AMD drivers ever do. They have Enduro (laptop switchable graphics) issues in that they don't shut off the dGPU but they seem to work fine and don't crash.
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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/07/31 12:21:26 (permalink)
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    I do not doubt that, but -as I said- I have an Saffire (the white/silver model).


    What is the exact model?

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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/08/01 02:00:13 (permalink)
    I didn't do a thing to my system and yesterday the MOTU Traveler just started working!  All good here, the upgrade went really well.

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    Re: Windows 10 Anybody? 2015/08/01 10:57:19 (permalink)
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    I upgraded, and then cloned it to an SSD. It wouldn't install straight to an SSD....I am liking it more every day....... My install of 8 was new (computer upgrade and bogus Win7 license), and for some reason, I couldn't get 8.1 to install (some weird issue), so I just jumped ahead...and I'm glad I did.



    I did my upgrade direct to my SSD without issue....just an FYI


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