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daveny5
Cakewalk:
What about the UM-3G? Not working yet. Your web page on this is EXTREMELY vague.
It works here.
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daveny5
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It works here Really, what did you do? I uninstalled it and re-installed it, but when I plug in the USB cable, it doesn't recognize it.
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I am still on the Win 8 Preview. My DVD wont arrive until next week some time.
Check the control panel in Win 8 to see if the driver is installed. I used the Vista/win 7 64 bit driver.
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daveny5
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Yeah, I'm trying, but so far, its not working. My older M-Audio MIDISports are working, but not the UM-3G I replaced them with. Go figure.
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daveny5
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Yeah, I saw that, but I'm not finding an INF file with the UM-3G driver. I'll look again. EDIT: OK. Its working. You have to read the whole article because the long-winded author had to tell you the whole story instead of just cutting to the chase which was to use the Vista driver.
post edited by daveny5 - 2012/10/28 09:25:39
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Well except for 2 minor glitches, this has been the easiest Windows upgrade ever. BTW, I was going from Windows 7 Home Premium to Windows 8 Pro. 1 glitch was for some reason yesterday, PayPal was down and you couldn't place an order. So I went out for a while and when I came back, it was working and so I ordered it. One thing I liked was that it forces you to run the Upgrade Advisor before purchasing and installing. I recommend you read that carefully especially if you have a lot of old applications or hardware. You can print out the output.
After you make the purchase ($39.95 plus tax if you choose to download it. Its a 2GB download and it took about 30 minutes on my computer with Time Warner cable modem service). Then you get the 3 BIG Options and there's no help on this (I don't remember the exact names, but I think I have the order right:
1) Install Now (self-explanatory, will upgrade your Windows 7 system to Windows 8)
2) Save to burn to external media
3) Save to Desktop
If you select the option to save to external media, i.e., DVD or Flashdrive, you will have to do a FULL install, which means you'll have to backup and re-install all your apps. There was no way I was going to do that.
If you want to order now, and do the upgrade later, take the option to save it to your desktop. That's what I was going to do, but then I said, "Ah... what the heck..." and clicked the icon on the desktop and installed it. The upgrade took at least an hour (I think... I went and had dinner and came back later and it had done the installation.)
Once I got past the problem with the UM-3G I mentioned earlier, everything is working. Sonar X2 seems to be fine.
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If you select the option to save to external media, i.e., DVD or Flashdrive, you will have to do a FULL install, which means you'll have to backup and re-install all your apps. There was no way I was going to do that.
I don't think this is completely correct. http://www.labnol.org/software/download-windows-8/20901/ It is important to have a disk to be able to do repairs, as when the HD dies.
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I had the setup program copy to DVD. Then I installed from the DVD and it kept all my apps and data. There is an option in the installed to do that, so choose wisely.
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One nice effect of Windows 8 is programs look crisper and nicer. Guess what I am running Aero on it too. LOL
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Is it safe to assume that if you're running 64 bit Windows, that it downloads 64 bit Windows 8? It didn't give me any choice - but that's what I'm assuming.
I've burned it to DVDs, but I'm going to wait a while before I install it. I'll do a little reading, and let thinings settle down ;-)
BTW - after you burn DVDs, you can delete c:\EZD(\windows) to free up 2GB of disk space.
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It is a somewhat deep internal look at the OS. I'll have a look at this - thanks ;-) I would have uninstalled it already if it wan't for this: http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/
I actually got an email from Stardock about this. I used to use them for a product which skinned Win XP ;-)
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Yes, the cheap download is pretty much limited to what MS wants you to have. That's OK, I just wanted it to be 64 bit, as that's what I'm running right now. That link spells it out - so that's exactly what I wanted. Thanks  (I just didn't want it to download 32 bit Win 8 when I'm running 64 bit Win 7 - but it looks like it's never going to do that)
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Earlier on in thread somebody was going on about lack of support with Focusrite. I'm running Saffire Pro 40 with mix control 3 on Windows 8 works without any issue although I haven't installed Sonar to use with it yet (I anticipate no problems however).
Also it looks like you can get away with generic Windows USB drivers with the octapad.
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Yes, the cheap download is pretty much limited to what MS wants you to have. For the flexibility to get what you want, you have to pay more. Well, that's a load of bull. I had Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit and I got Windows 8 Pro 64-bit for $40. So please substantiate your seemingly uninformed remark.
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> when they say it doesn't Alex.
I bet they haven't even tested their current drivers or software on the full release of Win8, at least for Saffire Pro 40. Easier just to put up "unsupported" in the meantime.
Sticking to Windows 7 as well BTW, no risk with dual boot!
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Is it safe to assume that if you're running 64 bit Windows, that it downloads 64 bit Windows 8? It didn't give me any choice - but that's what I'm assuming.
Yes, the cheap download is pretty much limited to what MS wants you to have. For the flexibility to get what you want, you have to pay more.
http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows8/windows-8-upgrade-32bit-64bit-144649
According to that article if you have a 32 bit OS the upgrade will also be a 32 bit OS. Which makes sense because you will not have any 64 bit programs or drivers on your system. Conversely if you have a 64 bit OS it will upgrade that to a new 64 bit OS. How is any of that confounding? However if you want to upgrade from a 32 bit OS to a 64 bit OS a clean install is the more preferred method.
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Well, that's a load of bull. I had Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit and I got Windows 8 Pro 64-bit for $40. So please substantiate your seemingly uninformed remark. So what you wanted and what MS wanted you to have were the same. Lucky you. Ms wants you to have an upgrade from 32 bit to 32 bit or from 64 bit to 64 bit and enforces that choice via the upgrade advisor. The problem will occur for someone who has a 32 bit windows XP, Vista or 7 and wants to upgrade to 64 bit Windows 8 Pro. The upgrade advisor aka 39.99 upgrade download will only give you a 32 bit version, even if you choose to download the iso. If you want to go to 64 bit from something downloaded on a computer running 32 bit windows you are SOL. You would have to buy the retail upgrade box, which includes both 32 bit and 64 bit versions. In that case you would still need to do a custom installation aka "save nothing" even if you went from 32 bit Windows 7 to 8. I did provide a link to substantiate my uninformed remark. The inventive among us may wonder what would happen if they download an iso from a machine running 64 bit Windows and then try to install it as a clean install on another computer running 32 bit windows using the following information: http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows8/clean-install-windows-8-upgrade-media-144648 If anyone has tried that I would appreciate a pm letting me know how it works.
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Haven't tried Win-8 yet, but just an FYI: A coupon code of WIN8SYST on Amazon will save $30 bucks on Win8, not sure when it expires though.
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Well, that's a load of bull. I had Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit and I got Windows 8 Pro 64-bit for $40. So please substantiate your seemingly uninformed remark.
So what you wanted and what MS wanted you to have were the same. Lucky you. Ms wants you to have an upgrade from 32 bit to 32 bit or from 64 bit to 64 bit and enforces that choice via the upgrade advisor.
The problem will occur for someone who has a 32 bit windows XP, Vista or 7 and wants to upgrade to 64 bit Windows 8 Pro. The upgrade advisor aka 39.99 upgrade download will only give you a 32 bit version, even if you choose to download the iso. If you want to go to 64 bit from something downloaded on a computer running 32 bit windows you are SOL. You would have to buy the retail upgrade box, which includes both 32 bit and 64 bit versions. In that case you would still need to do a custom installation aka "save nothing" even if you went from 32 bit Windows 7 to 8.
I did provide a link to substantiate my uninformed remark.
The inventive among us may wonder what would happen if they download an iso from a machine running 64 bit Windows and then try to install it as a clean install on another computer running 32 bit windows using the following information:
http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows8/clean-install-windows-8-upgrade-media-144648
If anyone has tried that I would appreciate a pm letting me know how it works.
Maybe you should read this How To Clean Install Windows 8 Pro Upgrade
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slartabartfast
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Thanks John, I did read that. The problem is that using the method described, you are going to be stuck with the version of Windows 8 that is the same family 32 bit or 64 bit as the one installed on the computer already. It is just a way of running the upgrade advisor from the computer without first going to the website and running it from there. "This tool provides valuable information about your computer's compatibility with Windows 8, facilitates the purchase of the Windows 8 download, and then downloads the correct version ( 32-bit or 64-bit) based on information about your computer - all important reasons to run this tool from the PC you're going to clean install Windows 8 on." There is no "correct version" in a clean install, since nothing will be retained. You can run the advisor and get that information without downloading or purchasing anything by just canceling the process before ordering so I fail to see any point in doing it his way. You do not need any media to do a clean install from the MS website, unless you want to install it later. The key to a "clean install" of windows 8 is just choose "nothing" under "what to Keep" no matter what the source of the upgrade code, (online upgrade from the website, download to desktop, CD or flash drive). The installation will then format your partition and install clean. The same thing can be accomplished more easily by choosing keep nothing when installing from the MS website, and in fact it requires linking to that website to order and download the iso. The second link in my prior post describes how to do a clean install from an iso without having the computer you are doing the install on connected to the internet at all. It also suggests a way to obtain multiple upgrade licenses so that they can be installed on other computers at a later time. And it reinforces the warning that you cannot download an iso on a machine that is already running Windows 8. One question that is still somewhat vague is are all 64 bit (or 32 bit) iso files downloaded identical or does the upgrade advisor tailor the code to the specific computer that is downloading the iso? It would seem that the former would be more practical, and the latter would mean that an iso downloaded from one computer might have incompatibilities or lack necessary files if used to install on another computer. People who have downloaded the iso could solve this if they would post the MD5 hash of the file they have downloaded using one of the utilities like: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=11533
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are all 64 bit (or 32 bit) iso files downloaded identical or does the upgrade advisor tailor the code to the specific computer
slarta - I'd be shocked if you don't just get a "regular" Windows iso. I can't imagine you'd have any problems buying the upgrade on a 64 bit PC, creating the iso and then doing a clean install on a different machine. It *must* just be a "normal" Windows iso and you get a "normal" license key. I wouldn't be brave enough to install the 64 bit version *over the top of* a 32 bit version - but I'd think a clean install should work. Why don't you just take an image of the 32 bit disk (so you can go back to it if anything screws up)- and try it PS - I think by "idiot proofing" the download/burn to iso process - that they actually make it more confusing for people that know what they're doing. Also - it leaves behind > 2GB of files (the source files) after you create your iso.
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