mike_mccue




"Anybody else been able to totally shield their DAW system from internet completely?" 




Yes.

My primary DAW runs Win XP sp3 and it hasn't had an update since the day it was assembled.

It works.

I work.

I will not let the internet put my work at risk.

Last year when Cakewalk PR reps chastised me for stating my personal opinion that a DAW shouldn't be any where near the internet I realized that we didn't share the same interests.

When the Cakewalk reps stated that there is "no reason not to" let your DAW see the internet I recognized that I had my best interest in mind and Cakewalk did not.

I am appalled that Cakewalk advises people that there is way to run a DAW safely while connected to the internet. I don't think any one, any where, is qualified to offer such bad advice... but that's just my personal opinion.




I'm sticking with my policy because it works.



Sorry to hear of your frustrating circumstances.


Good luck.


best regards,
mike

I remember Brandon suggesting that basically being connected to the net on a DAW machine these days was no big deal.  I kind of agree with him too.
 
Although I seem to remember that conversation I don't honestly remember you being chastised for clinging to your view.
 
I think it's fine if you've got your DAW all set up and working and don't want to upgrade your software to keep it offline, it's a personal choice.  Bear in mind though that much of what comes out this year won't be supported on Vista and probably wont even run on XP anymore.  So while that ol' machine might appeal to you I can see why many of these young whippersnappers would likely rail at your ideal.
 
I can however see the point in a lot of people that create on-line media and that colllaborate over the network and want the latest and greatest apps and plug-ins wanting access to the internet directly from their production machines, increasingly more and more are doing so as time passes, more and more DAW vendors are incorporating online services within their apps too it seems normal for a DAW to have an upload to soundcloud option or something similar nowadays, I guess that is a customer driven decision.
 
Consider yourself fortunate too that you are in a position to own more than one machine where you can adopt that off-line only policy, there are plenty of young and proficient content creators that can't run to an additional dedicated machine to keep off-line but many of them don't consider it a handicap.  I think most of those in that kind of mindset that can run to two machines would connect both anyway.
 
Those producing on-line content tend to regard being on-line as natural rather than weird and I'm inclined too to think that it makes sense having a production machine that can transport me where I want to be when I want to be there without having to boot up another machine and transfer whatever content I wanted from my isolated production machine before I can do anything with it.
 
It's easy to understand why it is fastly becoming a more popular choice to be online at your DAW for the under-50's demographic from that perspective too.
 
Have fun being appalled while the world moves on from McQ's 'correct' view without taking a blind bit of notice of your overarching wisdom yet again.  Hey, but I've only had the best part of 5 years of runming a DAW safely while connected to the internet so what do I know?  How many more years do I have to go through before I become qualified to speak and offer a view on the subject and say that it's really safe?

mike_mccue


Jon,

That seems like dribble being offered to a guy that just got stung by an official windows update and wasted most of his day trying to get back up and running.


It seems like you could have stated your opinion without concerning yourself with mine.


I enjoyed your vacation.



FO,
mike

 
I'm sorry I just had to quote the dribble offered by you here as appeared on the poor guys thread.  You still seem to be promoting the idea of interweb bogey men which to my mind prolongs the idea that things can unexpectedly go wrong that can't be put right in minutes when you clearly have no experience in the matter, so I thought I'd clarify from the point of view of somebody who does have some experience.  It's like if you work in any environment you get yourself properly equipped to deal with it, provided you do that I can assure anyone there are no problems in having a production machine networked and as I say there are many advantages in doing just that these days. 
 
As far as updates go I notice you say your machine has XP SP3 and what do you imagine those service packs largely comprise of?  If you said Windows updates you'd be right.  If you were a REAL purist you'd have an original XP install. 
 
I actually have XP installed on this machine on a dual boot it has no access to Windows updates as the network driver is disabled, yet on the same machine my Windows 7 installation with all the latest updates including the ones cited as being errant in the OP and it smokes that old XP installation, just being able to run 2.5ms better round trip latency is enough of an improvement to make that change but there are countless other improvements I've benefitted from since.
 
btw Here's the sensible prevention method I offered directly to the OP to save him having to go through it again.
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=2755271
 
I don't doubt you enjoyed my vacation as your genius could be believable if it ever went unchallenged by someone who knew better.
 
FO?  What does that mean? it seems like it was meant to be a bit mean spirited to me.

John, buddy, paragraphs are  your friend!

(if you're using Firefox, then download the IE tab to use for this forum)

good deal!  glad it mostly works good

Bub


Hey Beagle,

I just downloaded the latest Firefox and that IE Tab.

Works like a charm.

The only thing I miss is, you used to be able to set your cursor at the end of a sentence you were replying to, hit 'Del', and your cursor would jump down and be indented in the correct spot.

You can't do that any more, now you have to grab the mouse and click the indent button. Not a big deal, but that's the only difference I'm noticing.

The other thing I find is sometimes the odd paragraph break doesn't quite work properly and I end up having to put two in to make sure sometimes.
 
I was like you though I stayed on the old FF 3.6.xx for ages and did the IE tab thing a few months ago.  Again down to Reece mentioning it.
 
Good Beagle...