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daryl1968
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Re: Wise Man Of Wongo
2014/08/21 11:21:00
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Really trippy Tim - I like it
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Re: Wise Man Of Wongo
2014/08/21 13:15:14
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I love that snare! Love the song Tim! It has a Groovy vibe to me. This sounds really good on my Bose system. I think I'll re-listen late nite with the blue lite and smoked Becan!
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Re: Wise Man Of Wongo
2014/08/21 15:15:56
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Though this is drenched in reverb, I think it's appropriate, and it doesn't muddy the song at all. What I really like about this song is that it's so different than some of your other songs. I love unpridictability! Your growth as a songwriter and producer inspires me to try to write something different. Keep up the good work!
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Re: Wise Man Of Wongo
2014/08/21 15:50:15
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this reminds me of a cross between howard smith, tears from fears and something else i can't quite put my fingers on...maybe rundgren utopia era...
dig the song...
mixwise, the first twinkling guitars or samples, at :52, is just too aggressive in the mix, and then the guitar solo is just blended in real nice....
i'd try to brighten the vox a bit as well, give it a bit more clarity with some highs
on the ending, i'd love to hear a reverb tail on..... something...
it's ambient thru most of it, then the last two chord accents are bone dry.
maybe a repeated delay in time with the song, on the last chord...
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Re: Wise Man Of Wongo
2014/08/21 17:07:24
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It sounds like your playing at some big club with stone floors.
The tune is cool and different. Nice work!
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Re: Wise Man Of Wongo
2014/08/22 04:04:12
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Well this is certainly very creative . I gave it a couple of listens and I like some sections better than others..
I can see starting the way you did and keeping the momentum through the song with the main theme...
I almost feel at times while I was listening that a subtle shift in instrumentation in places would bring it up a notch...
I don't want to sound cliche by saying this but I think a dose of world instruments substituted in a few places where it is typical synth might be an interesting experiment or tech to try …
one's musical vision is one's musical vision and it is possible that it may be the last thing you would want to do , yet I was able to hear that while the song played and that is the only reason I have mentioned it ...
I'm still not entirely clear about the songs message ...
is this song about a sincere quest / spiritual journey ? or is it mocking a herd mentality nouveau riche what's in vogue
style of spirituality ….
I did enjoy this a lot so I'm just asking , because I need clarifcation ...
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Starise
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Re: Wise Man Of Wongo
2014/08/22 15:48:26
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Sorry it took me so long to get back here guys. I really appreciate the listens and the comments.
I am on my third version of this...having replaced it multiple times on SC. I think I have it pretty close now.
Daryl- Trippy....you aren't the first to say that about this song. FWIW I was drug free when I wrote it. Imagine what would happen if I wasn't :)
Bayoubill- I'm glad you liked how it sounded. If it sounds good on a Bose, then I must almost have this thing whipped.Disclaimer- I am in no way encouraging drug use though the use of this song. Thanks for listening!
Lynn- Thanks for listening. I had contemplated removing some of that verb, but as you say...it seemed to fit here, although I did automate the tails to clean it up in places. Thanks for your comments. Yes I am constantly trying to stretch what I think I'm capable of. This one kind of came out on the edge :)
Batsbrew- Thanks!! I did add some reverb back into the ending and I like your idea. It seemed to make it shine a little more. I had wondered if that guitar was too much. Part of me almost oplayed with it, but so far I haven't touched it. I plan to look into that though...maybe it will be upload/replacement number 4.FWIW I changed the guitar solo to a synth..a kind of wild synth. Seemed to fit better there, but it is also odd.
Guitarpima- Thanks! Some of that might be that I used my new Black Velvet kit from AD2...I love that kit. It really rocks!
Kenny- Thanks for listening! You aren't the first to suggest using other instruments, so that's what I did. I added some other parts to it...even a vocoder. I had to play with it some because the mix was starting to get dense at 20 something tracks...I think I have finally made it fit better...made some room to breathe better in the mix. I hear you on using world instruments... I'm probably too far along to change this one, but I am working on another one with more of that feel and not as weird lol.
The meaning of the song is intended to be a personification of Wisdom much as I did with love/charity in my "Charity Smiles" song. I was afraid that it would slant toward middle eastern thought and this wasn't entirely my idea here...I was trying to show that wisom could come from an old man on a mountain...or from the tire changer at K-mart....lots of wise people all around...the message is simply..look for wisdom..find it and be wise...and wisdom isn't always in the places that some think it's in.
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Re: Wise Man Of Wongo
2014/08/22 22:51:28
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Very cool. Great job, Starise.
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Re: Wise Man Of Wongo
2014/08/25 14:27:04
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Definitely trippy for me too... in a good way.  I like the reverb and it does have a bit of that eighties synth band thing going on, which suits it well IMO. The "jangly" part near the beginning is a little loud for me but otherwise I think the mix is working for the song. Love the "orchestra hits" during the outro. Oh... and this makes me want to try out the Black Velvet kit - I have yet to use it!
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Re: Wise Man Of Wongo
2014/08/26 09:17:22
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I like the way you use the instruments, it's kind of unexpected. Yeah I liked the drum sound too, don't have that kit  .
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Re: Wise Man Of Wongo
2014/08/26 18:37:07
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Gave me a Duran Duran vibe, interesting style, sounds like it took a while.
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Re: Wise Man Of Wongo
2014/08/27 00:26:55
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This is bad ass. The beatz, the bassline, so many sounds, really unexpected and interesting and thats why so many people like it.
Crits, nothing really. For a first listen, there were probably too many changes. I like the way the rhythm changed up on that first " In Wongo" but then it stopped, I wanted it to go on longer and harder!
Awesome work, Im impressed. Do you have any other cool backing tracks like that??!
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Re: Wise Man Of Wongo
2014/08/28 11:41:14
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Cool .. interesting song and sounds with variable arrangement.. well done
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