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Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
I have Editor 2 and have been waiting to see how Melodyne 4 is working out. Over at Gearslutz it hasn't been very well received so I'm wondering if people here have found it working good/worthwhile to upgrade or hold fast for the time being. I'd probably upgrade to Studio 4 from Editor 2 and get the full upgrade. Thanks...
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/04 18:44:16
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Melodyne 4 keeps crashing Sonar Platinum
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/04 19:00:28
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/04 19:29:05
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whattarush Melodyne 4 keeps crashing Sonar Platinum
Doesn't for me, I have Studio 4
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/04 20:19:48
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I installed an upgrade from Editor 2 to Studio 4 last night. It went very smoothly. I tried it out on a track and it seemed to work fine. Lot more testing to do though. HTH Paul
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/04 20:34:12
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I have not been able to get the trial to install, which may have been a blessing in disguise. After seeing issues/features that have not been clearly explained by a company that just removed its forum (Celemony), I refuse to relinquish a license (Editor 2) on good faith to an untested (by me) platform.
There is no hurry anyway, as the upgrade offer is good until 4/30.
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/04 20:46:00
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I'm holding back too... I've really not read a lot of rave reviews about it....just people gawking over the list of new features. I'd sure like to hear some people put it to use in the Songs Forum and see how it spins. My Editor 2 is pretty nifty as is. It's not like I have a zillion songs that some guitar player laid the first track on, and couldn't keep time....and then I want to add MIDI drums. THAT seems to be the big feature many are talking about.
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/04 21:31:38
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I have plenty of crashes, none related to Melodyne 4, I suppose. I am on Essential, Celemony effectively discouraged me from upgrading to Editor with $400 tag. I have an impression that M4 is "more confident" when it comes to pitch detection/correction, it goes much more smoothly, I like it. Other people say tempo detection is even much better but I don't use it/ need it so see if that is what you need. Celemony pricing really make no sense for me, I would hold upgrading unless multi instances are important for you.
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/04 21:33:41
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I just paid $125 to go from Editor 2 to 4. I get crashes if I leave melodyne on as a region effect when I save. I don't know if this happened on Editor 2, but otherwise I'm not getting crashes. I think I paid $150 to go from essentials to Editor, so to have the full blown Studio for $275 has left me feeling pretty happy. If you want to take advantage of this offer, I would say go for it. Even if you are concerned about some stability issues, you could take advantage of the offer and sit on it for a few months, whilst some issues are ironed out. The sound design stuff is worth it for me. Especially more subtle use. Has so much potential for creative use and for helping mix sounds in. I've not used the timing stuff yet, but that's a great tool to have in the box. My only reservation would be for those on Studio 2, in that you loose 'some' of the Audio to Midi functions such as pitch bend data. If you don't use this and don't envisage using it, then that's not a problem. (You still get Audio to MIDI note and velocity data). Melodyne won't do anything further with the 2 series, but they will develope and fix anomalies, and any work cake do from now on, I can only imagine will be with Series 4 integration, though they may still have positive benefits for Series 2. I'm so glad I took advantage of the window in upgrading from Essential to Editor, that the same opportunity to get Studio was a no brainier, especially as it was my birthday at the time
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/04 22:49:03
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I'm using (or trying to use) Melodyne Essential 4 but SONAR crashes every time I try to use it. Is anyone else here having issues with Melodyne Essential 4?
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/04 23:13:30
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I think I'm going to hold off for a bit, see what fixes come out...
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/04 23:24:24
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I upgraded Editor 2 to Studio 4, and immediately had Sonar crashfest opening any project with Editor 2 clips. I quickly discovered the issue was with my control surface renaming the VST3 file, and once I removed that from the VST scan path everything worked as expected. I've been using Studio 4 daily for a few weeks, and have had no further issues with it, and am really enjoying the new features they've added. New pitch detection algorithms, EQ/Harmonics sound editor, tempo detection, saving templates, multi-track editing of harmony vocals. I actually find the possibilities of Studio 4's audio manipulation and repair astounding. What blew me away the most was just as a test, I opened a stereo wave file (in standalone version) recorded over 15 years ago. The musicians and hardware from those days are long gone, and remixing individual tracks was not possible . . . but I was actually able to locate and turn up a few vocal parts, get rid of some bass clutter, re-EQ some sections, play with the tempo . . . export it as audio, put it back into Sonar, apply some mastering plugins. Poof.
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/04 23:30:54
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Isn't Essential 4 to Editor 4 just $99. I got Studio 4 for $126 so $400 makes no sense.. I think it is the same as was for Melodyne 2.
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/05 00:14:15
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Hey mmarton. I was on editor 2 and tried to get the demo of studio 4 to activate but was only able to get it to open in player mode. I took a chance and jumped for the studio 4 update. I have been using it for a couple of weeks now without any issues. The multi-track view is very handy when tweaking backing vocals and the sound design features are pretty sweet too. For me the $149 upgrade path was a steal, but there is no rush. I believe it is available at that price until the end of March.
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/05 00:30:34
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tenfoot +1. Studio 4 is working fine here.
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/05 02:49:24
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"fixing" vocals with tools like melodyne is way overrated and overused IMHO. even though i own it and have to use it occasionally, i stay clear from it as much as possible because tampering with the tuning simply changes the character of the performance. no matter how good the correction software is. period. the way a vocalist gets to a note or off a note is what makes him/her distinguishable from the rest (which all starts to sound the same in recent years). if it needs too much fixing, ditch it and re-record. have the vocalist practise. give them him/her some coaching because even if they have been "singing" for years, they may never have heard / perceived themselves the way a producer does. finally, go dig out some recordings from the pre pro tools days. not everything is perfect when you listen to the detail, but the vibe and performance are great!
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/05 02:51:07
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I went from Editor 2 to Studio 4 and am happy to report it's working like a charm for me...no crashes, or stop working stuff. It's a very smooth piece of software with some added things to play with. I recently had to take a song up by initially one and a half tones and I had recorded a guitar. I didn't want to redo the guitar so I tried S4 and it worked beautifully...I later had to take it up another tone and again no probs. I wouldn't have dared to do that in E2 as it always felt unstable and unless you did that and then mixed down, it was risky leaving it open...not so far with S4. Good job Celemony! +1
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/05 13:40:25
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I have Editor 2, and I'm on the fence about upgrading to Studio 4. On the one hand, I'm reading here and on KVR about crashes, confusion about new version overwriting the old, lack of changes to the core algorithm, missing features, and problems reaching support. On the other, the professional reviews I've read (especially on Sound on Sound) have been extremely favorable. In the SOS review, the only Con about the ARA Studio version was about lack of automation for Sound Editor parameters. Also, Celemony has been responsive by publishing an update to fix bugs. I've read some of the information on Celemony's Help Center, but it would be easier for me to make a decision if I could read the manual. I couldn't find a manual to download on the Celemony site, and I've read that there's no big manual available in the installed version. Is that right? Maybe I just need to spend more time with the Help Center. I'm glad I have until the end of April to make a decision. Mitch I.
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/05 15:19:47
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went from Editor 2 to Studio 4 & it is working good for me so far, no crashes (but i don't leave Melodyne clips in my projects; i always bounce to clip, so i would not have problems with Melodyne 4 trying to open up Melodyne 2 clips)
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/05 18:38:45
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Well it's good to see people with no issues...I'm not a power user and most upgrades of software and plugs I've never had issue with so I may go ahead anyways...the new features seem really awesome...
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/05 21:19:14
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Mitch_I I couldn't find a manual to download on the Celemony site, and I've read that there's no big manual available in the installed version. Is hat right? Maybe I just need to spend more time with the Help Center. Mitch I.
That is true Mitch - there is no manual. You certainly can find all of the information you need on their website, but I too am a fan of written manuals, and not writing one seems to be a disturbingly common and lazy trend.
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/06 05:46:11
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I have Sonar Platinum, and just upgraded from 3 to 4. I am glad I did. Of biggest interest to me personally is the new algorithms - for example the sustain poly. The new algorithms really give you additional angles to work with if you need to reach in a chnge something beyond a straight note. For example, I had a 1+1 recording, guitar and voice. There is some bleed into the vocal microphone. And there was a particular syllable that was slightly off pitch. With one of the new algorithms I was able to reach in and fix it. Doing that in version 3 was much more iffy. They seemed to have added polish all around. For $99, well worth it I fell.
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/06 07:14:54
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I have upgraded from Editor 2 to Studio 4 and it seems to be working well for me. I have spent quite a few hours on several projects and no problems so far. There have been some issues with the way multiple track editing, in the one Melodyne window, is functioning (or has been advertised to work, I'm not sure now) inside Sonar. There are some other threads related to this. Certainly the 'stand alone' version has a slightly different feature set than the 'plugin' version at this point in time. I also believe Sonar (and maybe Melodyne as well) are still working on the ARA functionality, and this will improve over time. This is one of only a few 'plugins' that I use outside of the ones that are included with Sonar and I have been nothing but impressed with it since its release.
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/06 09:41:08
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Reading this thread, It sounds like there may be a problem with Melodyne 4 when opening/using a project that had Melodyne 2 treated tracks. For new projects, it sounds like there is less of an issue (or none at all)? How did some of you get Studio 4 (from Editor 2) for $126? Thanks
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/06 09:47:13
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whattarush Melodyne 4 keeps crashing Sonar Platinum
Mmmm no, not for me. So far so good Cheers, J Edit : i bought an upgrade in the first couple of days to v4 Editor, when there was no upgrade path to Studio. Celemony then sent ma a mail offering a special upgrade price from v4 Editor to v4 Studio. One thong i did do : uninstall v2 completely before the upgrade . But it still doesn'.t crash Sonar.........
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/06 16:26:32
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+1 on being a bit irritated that it doesn't have a manual (with an index!!!)
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/07 08:38:16
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Not a single crash for me, I'm using editor 4.
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/07 10:15:22
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/07 16:39:43
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Re: Worth upgrading to Melodyne 4?
2016/02/07 17:58:26
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Audiodeluxe gets you the discount, too...
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