Would Armstrong's drug taking have put a psychedelic 60's band to shame?

No but I heard that Syd Barret was brilliant on a bicycle

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daryl1968


No but I heard that Syd Barret was brilliant on a bicycle

   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmW17QvUhRM 


Love it! hahaha

he'd give it to you if he could but he borrowed it :)

Hi,

Tom Dowd, in his DVD about the music (gotta see it to believe it!), had some very nice things to say about that music of the 50's and early 60's that was kinda taken away from black America and taken over by the movie studios.

Without making an inference to drugs (Tom would know about that through the Allman's later), his suggestion was that the experimentation in music during that time was very good, but it kinda died because it could not sell, and get airplay, or appreciation.

Sadly, for example, many things that fit that description were longer cuts and extended jams, most of which the record companies in America made a point of killing, so it would not kill their commercial top ten list. Miles had many bootlegs in the late 60's and early 70's, most of which featured a full side, which might or might not have one or two pieces of his that were previously known embedded in it. Same thing for the majority of the Blue Note stuff ... most of which gets released, is nothing but a bunch of "songs", and not quite even a very good description of the work itself.

The one where this is most criminal? Grateful Dead! They were known for 4, 5 and 6 hour and all night things, and I can tell you they did not sleep through those hours at all! But you will NEVER, EVER find a release of any of their extended jems anywhere ... which means that you do not have a good idea of what taught many of these musicians what they knew and did in music!

America, with its prohibition media, pretty much killed all the sex, drugs anything ... and made them look bad and worse, to the point where 60 years later, people are still paranoid of marijuana and what not. The downside of all that? ... it distorts the ability of the human internal creative spirit ... and its expression. What you hear is a cut up version that ends up not making much sense musically, but is much closer to the pre-defined concepts in music tnat experimentation and drugs would never have given you!

You don't need the drugs ... but sometimes, to combat the environment, you pretty much have to shut them all off ... and drugs is a good thing ... that help you get somethings done, that might or might not be good, in retrospect ... but other than a handful of quasi-fake-religious folks, I have not met anyone that regrets their experience and learning ... without it, you are not the person you are today ... or ever!

So, if you want to be dishonest, go ahead ... hide your past ... if you want to be an artist, it becomes your next masterpiece!

All else is talk disguised under one name ... FEAR!

Moshkiae


 Grateful Dead! They were known for 4, 5 and 6 hour and all night things, and I can tell you they did not sleep through those hours at all! But you will NEVER, EVER find a release of any of their extended jems anywhere ... 

Thank Buddah! 


20 minutes of self-indulgence is probably as much as I could stand. If one can't organize his idea in a coherent and succinct statement, he'd better drop the mind-altering chemicals and try to find some focus. 


I'm all for experimenting but I also believe that it is better kept in the lab. One needs to synthesize their "findings" at one point an organize them. Unless they're delusional enough to believe that they're channeling the essence of the truth (and drugs may induce such delusions, indeed). 

Rain

Moshkiae


Grateful Dead! They were known for 4, 5 and 6 hour and all night things, and I can tell you they did not sleep through those hours at all! But you will NEVER, EVER find a release of any of their extended jems anywhere ... 

Thank Buddah! 


20 minutes of self-indulgence is probably as much as I could stand. If one can't organize his idea in a coherent and succinct statement, he'd better drop the mind-altering chemicals and try to find some focus. 


I'm all for experimenting but I also believe that it is better kept in the lab. One needs to synthesize their "findings" at one point an organize them. Unless they're delusional enough to believe that they're channeling the essence of the truth (and drugs may induce such delusions, indeed). 

I wish I could get you to listen to some Guru Guru or early Amon Duul 2 ... your idea of "jams" is ill-conceived, and not all of them are delusional, or incoherant. The folks in Germany pretty much proved that what you stated is not true. I also do not believe that all the fooling around was wasteful or not in tune with the moment in time ... thus it would not necessarily be a waste ... but any artist/musician thinking they can not learn from anything they do? ... scarier than othewise! Maybe a little Shakti with Jon McLKaughlin for you would be good too! ... but it might not fit with the work you do, and I can understand that.
 
It's a reflection of the time and place ... and today, including folks that post in all of Cakewalk ... most are afraid of experiments and efforts to do something else other than yet another song in the sonnata format!

Vitamins can be considered a performance enhancer, ya?

Article from the BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19912623

.... never failed a test.


LOL