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Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme?

I know that Tungsten's already kind of there with its amber buttons/elements, but I'm thinking of a really yellow or orange buttoned theme. I've already figured on trying a purple theme, at least for the giggles (and I figure someone will like it). I'm currently redoing my muted red theme and intend to fulfill a request for a bright red theme (for HelRazor). I'm getting much faster with many of the angles on this (thanks, Dave), so it's not so bad time-wise.
 
Let me know if there's any interest. If no one's into these colors, I'll forget it.
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“Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy” is attributed to Benjamin Franklin perhaps in error, but the thought remains a worthy sentiment nonetheless.

 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/05 10:43:23 (permalink)
Orange looks very interesting.  I'd try that.  Thanks for all the work you're doing on these themes.
 

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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/05 11:33:16 (permalink)
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Orange looks very interesting.  I'd try that.  Thanks for all the work you're doing on these themes.
 




I find this breakdown kind of interesting:
 
As part of a recent study on gender norms, University of Maryland sociologist Philip Cohen asked nearly 2,000 men and women a simple question: "What's your favorite color?" Blue turned out to be most popular across the board, followed by green for men and purple for women. The color preferences break down as follows:
 

 
Cohen cautioned that he did not survey a random sample of the population, but rather a "convenience sample" of students, faculty and staff at his university, as well as people who heard about the study through social media and link sharing. "However, when I controlled statistically for age, race/ethnicity, education level and student status, the gender pattern was basically unchanged, so that helps increase confidence that the result is not too heavily skewed by who I sampled," Cohen told Life's Little Mysteries.
 
Now, why Cohen included pink, I have no idea; it's not its own color at all (that is, a primary, secondary, or even tertiary color), but is simply red mixed with white. Granted, we don't call pink "light red" the way we call blue mixed with white "light blue", but it simply doesn't stand on its own the same way the primary, secondary, or tertiary colors do, e.g., you won't find it on a color wheel (there are color wheels that extend to tertiary colors).
 
Perhaps, being a sociologist, he included it because of its cultural value: baby girls get pink clothes traditionally. If that's not the reason, I've got no clue.
 
Now you know why I've asked the question. I do find it somewhat surprising to find purple as high on the poll as it is. I'd have thought it about fourth rather than second (for women) and third (for men). Blue and green are exactly where I thought they'd be. I thought red would be rated essentially in purple's place.
 
And despite Cohen's viewing of the color, I absolutely refuse to do a pink theme. Yecchh.

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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/05 13:04:46 (permalink)
Thanks again, Dan. You need not do a pink Theme 
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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/05 13:42:21 (permalink)
I'd like the orange one - if you put in 3D buttons (like in tuncury) and make them all with dark backgrounds ;-)

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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/05 13:54:24 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Zargg71 2016/08/05 15:52:17
As I was scrolling through the other topics in the forum I realized just how many of these themes you've developed!!  Thanks, it's much appreciated.

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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/05 14:34:26 (permalink)
I like purple best, but I'm not sure that would make a useful Sonar theme.  Wine colors toward redish would be awesome.  I think.

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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/05 14:57:36 (permalink)
I'd go for Tungsten made into a Pumpkin Orange theme with Alpha Blue meters and Mercury buttons. That's what I'm planning on doing when I actually get time to work with theme editor.

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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/05 15:09:05 (permalink)
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I'd like the orange one - if you put in 3D buttons (like in tuncury) and make them all with dark backgrounds ;-)

jude77
As I was scrolling through the other topics in the forum I realized just how many of these themes you've developed!!  Thanks, it's much appreciated.





I can do 3-D buttons. I'd use Mercsten as a base and color those (I already did the work of transporting the buttons from Mercury there). Dark? How dark?
 
I figured tentatively I'd work through the color wheel to primary and secondary colors, but someone asked for a bright red and I love deep blue. I might do a darker green as well. Purple will be next, then the bright red. They'll all be over the Tungsten background (Mercsten is Tungsten background), regardless of buttons.

“Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy” is attributed to Benjamin Franklin perhaps in error, but the thought remains a worthy sentiment nonetheless.

 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/05 15:16:00 (permalink)
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I like purple best, but I'm not sure that would make a useful Sonar theme.  Wine colors toward redish would be awesome.  I think.


 
I did that already, unless you're thinking of something else:
 

 
The link:
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s...%20Dark%20Red.sth?dl=0

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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/05 15:16:47 (permalink)
I would like to see a Tiffany theme. Turn Orange Tungsten into Tiffany blue or a Aqua greenish blue.

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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/05 15:18:28 (permalink)
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I'd go for Tungsten made into a Pumpkin Orange theme with Alpha Blue meters and Mercury buttons. That's what I'm planning on doing when I actually get time to work with theme editor.




Pumpkin Orange is cool, but what are you calling "Alpha Blue"? Aren't the meters already this color?

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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/05 15:18:48 (permalink)
Becan theme?

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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/05 15:21:07 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Zargg71 2016/08/05 15:53:15
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Becan theme?




You've definitely had enough becan, Bill. I'll not indulge you. 

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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/05 15:24:24 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby clintmartin 2016/08/05 17:15:24
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I would like to see a Tiffany theme. Turn Orange Tungsten into Tiffany blue or a Aqua greenish blue.




Greenish-blue is doable, maybe (time permitting), though I was thinking more of a "Forest Green". "Tiffany Blue"? Is this a "thing"?
 
Okay, found it:
 

 
Right?
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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/05 16:10:36 (permalink)
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I would like to see a Tiffany theme. Turn Orange Tungsten into Tiffany blue or a Aqua greenish blue.




Greenish-blue is doable, maybe (time permitting), though I was thinking more of a "Forest Green". "Tiffany Blue"? Is this a "thing"?
 
Okay, found it:
 

 
Right?


Tiffany Blue is a thing...and yep that is it.  (and is about what the infinity symbol at the top of the page looks like)
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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/05 16:36:23 (permalink)
Maybe a royal blue and dark gray theme.....
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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/05 16:45:20 (permalink)
I just popped in Green.  It's great!!

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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/05 16:49:40 (permalink)
I can do 3-D buttons. I'd use Mercsten as a base and color those (I already did the work of transporting the buttons from Mercury there). Dark? How dark?

I mean dark grey like Tungsten buttons. The mercsten I've got has lighter grey buttons - like mercury buttons with a tungsten background.

This is all personal taste of course - but I love mercstun with the darker buttons ;-)

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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/05 19:45:04 (permalink)
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[...intend to fulfill a request for a bright red theme (for HelRazor). 



Thanks so much, I think that will be cool and I'm looking forward to seeing it.  

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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/06 02:34:16 (permalink)
I think the most important thing for me is to make the ruler legible again... tungsten makes it nearly impossible to see.
 

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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/06 03:24:44 (permalink)
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Now, why Cohen included pink, I have no idea; it's not its own color at all (that is, a primary, secondary, or even tertiary color), but is simply red mixed with white. Granted, we don't call pink "light red" the way we call blue mixed with white "light blue", but it simply doesn't stand on its own the same way the primary, secondary, or tertiary colors do, e.g., you won't find it on a color wheel (there are color wheels that extend to tertiary colors).



Could also be said that purple is not a colour either, being there is no wavelength for purple. It doesn't sit between red and blue as a wavelength, beyond blue it becomes ultra violet, below red, infra red, which we can't see. the colur wheel joins spectrum at it's visible lowest and highest wave lengths. to produce purple you need to produce two wavelengths, but to produce green or orange, you can send just one.
 
I've wondered about Purple as I think it will compliment mercury's blue

 
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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/06 04:40:29 (permalink)
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I think the most important thing for me is to make the ruler legible again... tungsten makes it nearly impossible to see.
 

You should be able to play around with the "color" settings (separate from Theme Editor) for this...

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I think the most important thing for me is to make the ruler legible again... tungsten makes it nearly impossible to see.
 

You should be able to play around with the "color" settings (separate from Theme Editor) for this...


I just tried to see whether this was my oversight or an actual issue.  I did find a solution to changing the color of the font in the ruler so it wasn't black letters on dark grey....However, I think this should just be fundamental to a template... LEGIBILITY... Why should I need to change the color of the font so I can see it???  Seems an essential part of anyones template.
 
Seems to be baked into the template so the template needs to consider this.  Why should we have to go in and adjust an essential function... THE TIME LINE!!!
 
Mercury is fine... numbers on the time line are totally legible... This should be part of all templates... a LEGIBLE timeline.
 
I think.... maybe I'm missing something but...was just trying to do some edits and realized I can't see F in the timeline in any of the alternate templates.  Yes, after 15 minutes I figured out how to make the font yellow or white so it's legible....
 
But shouldn't the templates do this, as a matter of course?  Just sayin'....
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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/06 06:26:13 (permalink)
You're right.
It comes down to using "colors" vs the theme editor
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Themes-VS-Colour-m3456905.aspx
 
so, until they move the "color" adjustments in to the theme editor (which is sensible, and I think what you want to see) - we just have to have a set of "colors" (just save a preset) for the dark themes (like tungsten) and a set for the light themes (like mercury).

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Maybe a royal blue and dark gray theme.....


Like this?
 

 

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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/06 16:46:04 (permalink)
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I think the most important thing for me is to make the ruler legible again... tungsten makes it nearly impossible to see.
 


 
Dana, I don't that would take much time, but I'd like to say that perhaps you might want to check your monitor; the ruler is very clear to me.
 
But I if do this for you, which theme would you prefer?
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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/06 16:56:20 (permalink)
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Now, why Cohen included pink, I have no idea; it's not its own color at all (that is, a primary, secondary, or even tertiary color), but is simply red mixed with white. Granted, we don't call pink "light red" the way we call blue mixed with white "light blue", but it simply doesn't stand on its own the same way the primary, secondary, or tertiary colors do, e.g., you won't find it on a color wheel (there are color wheels that extend to tertiary colors).



Could also be said that purple is not a colour either, being there is no wavelength for purple. It doesn't sit between red and blue as a wavelength, beyond blue it becomes ultra violet, below red, infra red, which we can't see. the colur wheel joins spectrum at it's visible lowest and highest wave lengths. to produce purple you need to produce two wavelengths, but to produce green or orange, you can send just one.
 
I've wondered about Purple as I think it will compliment mercury's blue




We're talking two different approaches to color; your discussing the physics of it, while I'm talking mixing colors. On a color wheel to the tertiary level (like they use in Art classes), you won't find pink because it's simply derivative of red. You will, however, find Purple.
 
You are correct, of course, coming from your perspective.
 
I'm working on Purple tonight over Tungsten. Then, I'll do HelRazor's Bright Red.

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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/06 22:54:15 (permalink)
Yeah I got you were talking about mixing pigment, I just find it amazing that we can't see purple and it's a made up colour. I always seem at the mercy of the printers when I produce work for school that emphasizes purple and pink, especially as I tend to use more of a fuchsia pink than a powder

 
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Re: Would there be any interest in a true yellow or orange Tungsten theme? 2016/08/07 01:18:16 (permalink)
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I can do 3-D buttons. I'd use Mercsten as a base and color those (I already did the work of transporting the buttons from Mercury there). Dark? How dark?

I mean dark grey like Tungsten buttons. The mercsten I've got has lighter grey buttons - like mercury buttons with a tungsten background.

This is all personal taste of course - but I love mercstun with the darker buttons ;-)



I may have spoken too soon (regarding the 3D buttons). I just tried changing the robin's egg blue to orange. I got absolutely nothing that anyone would ever want to look at. In Tungsten, there's no problem at all as amber is so closely related to orange, but as blue is a complement on the color wheel to orange.....

 
                                                                          
 
I'll keep trying out the 3D buttons (and darkening them). Maybe I'll get it without making the colorizing a week long project, but it's not looking really direct right now.  
post edited by outland144k - 2016/08/07 01:42:58

“Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy” is attributed to Benjamin Franklin perhaps in error, but the thought remains a worthy sentiment nonetheless.

 
 
 
 
 
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