Wow, Slownar is worthless for piano roll midi editing, yeah?

I've been using Sonar to record live instrumental improv stuff for a few years and mixed projects with much success however tonight I'm trying to sequence out some virtual instrument stuff in the piano roll and it's just an absolute burden.  The E,D,S tool changing every 3 seconds and terribly unresponsive velocity editing(figured out I have to sweep the tool across a swath above each note to make it respond, lol) is bad enough.  Then when I try to loop a few measures, forget it!  It ends up losing fractions of a measure somewhere, somehow as it goes along.  Just selecting the notes I want to repeat then clicking on the next starting point and pasting several repetions produces a mess.  I tried selecting the entire length of the selection I want to loop, including the rest at the end down to the exact subdivision along the time bar above while zoomed in plenty close and then pasting the repetitions at the exact end of the first completion of the sequence and that is a little better but it still ends up losing fractions of a beat, worse as it progresses.  This is unusable.  It's making me long for the beauty of my FLStudio piano roll days of yore.  I once(years ago)sequenced out every instrument of a spontaneous, blazing metal tune with tons of snare ghost notes, guitar bends, bass slaps and slides and the whole deal in the FL piano roll in a few days for fun and it was easy and fun and I felt I could trust my DAW to do what I commanded where with the Sonar8 piano roll situation I'm really about to give up and honestly find a new DAW.  So is Sonar not for me if I need a powerful, clean piano roll function or am I making a mistake of some sort?

With a username that negative off the bat, it's kinda hard to believe you're not a troll.

Guess he won't be getting any help here. 

I have been doing MIDI data editing since before Digital Performer went digital (1985?), and I find getting around in the piano roll view to be pretty quick and easy.

True, there was a little user adjustment required to get a handle on how things work there, but I find that being able to view the MIDI data for multiple tracks at once is a very powerful feature, and using the quick keys for changing tools makes editing pretty fast for me.

Naturally, YMMV.

-Jack (MIDI old-timer, SONAR user for 18 months)

i remember you..your the guy who doesnt know the difference between rendering and recording bit depths..
no wonder why your having so many problems..does fl studio have an easy button for you?..is that why you like it?...he.he.
 
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