Wow - not for the novice pilot!

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2013/11/19 12:37:32 (permalink)

Wow - not for the novice pilot!

How's this for an "interesting" approach?
 
Landing in New Zealand
 
Some beautiful scenery though!

 
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    Re: Wow - not for the novice pilot! 2013/11/19 12:53:16 (permalink)
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    How's this for an "interesting" approach?
     
    Landing in New Zealand
     
    Some beautiful scenery though!


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    Re: Wow - not for the novice pilot! 2013/11/19 16:54:32 (permalink)
    Heh, once you see the video you might think that message is accurate!

     
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    Re: Wow - not for the novice pilot! 2013/11/19 17:09:21 (permalink)
    Cool video. Have landed in Queenstown myself several times- but I don't remember approaching it like that.
     
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    Re: Wow - not for the novice pilot! 2013/11/19 17:44:20 (permalink)
    Lurvely scenery. Not for the novice pilot indeed. For that approach, you would need to be IFR rated. For that approach in that airplane, you would need to be twin engine jet certified. Unless........unless you had watched a bunch of youtube videos and thought, "pffft..how hard can it be?" and just went and stole a jet and took a shot at it so you could go snow boarding with yer buds
    and impress them with your new found flying and stealing skills.

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    Re: Wow - not for the novice pilot! 2013/11/19 20:03:59 (permalink)
    ha-landing at the old airport in Hong Kong beats them all-there`s heaps of clips on youtube but having a window seat was unforgettable.
    check it out
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    Re: Wow - not for the novice pilot! 2013/11/20 11:10:02 (permalink)
    I'm wondering if it's real.... it's certainly cool....the scenery kinda looks like a high quality flight simulator.... but I could be wrong.
     
    You certainly must trust the instruments in this one. Not a big margin for guessing or mistakes.
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    Re: Wow - not for the novice pilot! 2013/11/20 15:48:53 (permalink)
    That would have to be one mega$$ simulator! Notice the reflection on the windscreen. I have never seen that in a simulator before. Not impossible, just unlikely.
     
    Looks like a small jet maybe? Runway almost too short for it as it took the whole strip to land. No room for error. Hate to think how he'd make an emergency go-a-round if a deer or child popped out near the end. Landing in low clouds like that is scary dangerous IFR stuff, you never know what's coming at you. Notice the row of lights at the beginning of the runway.. he was dead on.
     
    As for the scenery, pretty common stuff, clouds and all, in Alaska... when driving as well as flying. 
     
    btw, it's the CO-pilot's view, not the pilot's, as labeled.
     
    ... oh wait, I forgot European's drive from the wrong side.
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    Re: Wow - not for the novice pilot! 2013/11/20 16:16:08 (permalink)
    I thought it had something of a flight sim about it too as the buildings first start to appear especially, but v.cool all the same.
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    Re: Wow - not for the novice pilot! 2013/11/21 08:05:48 (permalink)
    I noticed the reflections and wondered about that as well..... having flown simulators as well as having a pilot's license, either way, that was one heck of a job of flying.... nothing says vindication of your skills like popping out of the bottom of a layer of scud like seeing the runway glide path indicators all lined up nice and pretty and knowing you're on the glide path dead center.

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    Re: Wow - not for the novice pilot! 2013/11/22 15:22:28 (permalink)
    Instructors have a saying about those VASI lights:
     
    Red over white - you're all right
    White over white - you'll fly all night
    Red over red - you're dead
    White over red... Unless you're a stunt pilot, probly not the best way to land cause you're upside down.
     

     
    Though this runway was using PAPI lights. Your aim? Make PAPI proud.

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    Re: Wow - not for the novice pilot! 2013/11/22 15:48:31 (permalink)
    Flight sim - the runway looks fake.

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    Re: Wow - not for the novice pilot! 2013/11/22 16:36:41 (permalink)
    Gee- it really would be the uncanny valley if it was a flight sim. 

     
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    Re: Wow - not for the novice pilot! 2013/11/22 20:54:06 (permalink)
    Looks real to me. If you pause the video at different points on the runway, it looks very natural. If it is a sim, I want it.

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    Re: Wow - not for the novice pilot! 2013/11/22 23:55:28 (permalink)
    Copy that. The view from the front seat is kind of surreal anyway, but this is the real deal.
    Very nice approach.. This is hairy, but not nearly as bad as Lukla or Courchevel. I have the utmost admiration for the guys that are qualified for those.

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    Re: Wow - not for the novice pilot! 2013/11/23 15:55:22 (permalink)
    Hi,
     
    I was thinking that this scenery was also used in a film 55 some years ago. Kinda suggests that Stanley Kubrick used this same similar footage for his Dr. Strangelove film, that has a lot of similar stuff in it towards the end of the film. With some spots obviously colored in for us to see.
     
    But this one was nice. Really nice.

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    Re: Wow - not for the novice pilot! 2013/11/23 20:49:41 (permalink)
    It looks like they used a "dash cam" placed on top the instrument panel. Very similar wide angle shot as used in car videos but never seen in a simulator.
     
    Also, from 3:39 to 3:44 you can see a jet-skier in the lake right in front of the approach path, and street traffic in front of the runway... the computing power needed for this to be a simulator would be phenomenal even for the military...
     
    Unless it was posted by aliens.
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    Re: Wow - not for the novice pilot! 2013/11/24 11:50:56 (permalink)
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    ha-landing at the old airport in Hong Kong beats them all-there`s heaps of clips on youtube but having a window seat was unforgettable.
    check it out
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    Was that the one with the planes flying in between the sky scrapers or something?

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    Re: Wow - not for the novice pilot! 2013/11/25 08:28:32 (permalink)
    There are quite a few airports around the world that are much hairer places to land a plane even on a clear VFR day....
     
    A TV show called the 10 most dangerous airports in the world highlighted them some time back.   Several of them will not permit pilots who have not had airport specific landing training and check rides to land at those airports.
     
    One, IIRC, is over a road, to a runway that is sloped down hill and into a lake at the end....if you approach too high or fast, and don't get stopped in time, you and your plane go swimming.
     
     
    On simulators:  I have a few of the older sims... from around 2001 or so, but the realism factor in the new ones is uncanny. With computing power in the gamer machines, handling HD video graphics is no problem.   It's getting more and more realistic... but at least you can still walk away from the crashes....
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