X1 Novice - Saving a "Scene" or a "Mix" ??

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X1 Novice - Saving a "Scene" or a "Mix" ??

Hello,
 
My previous DAW was a Roland VS2480.  There is a feature called "scene", which is common with many older hardware DAW machines.  The description "scene" was used by Roland.
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The "scene":
You can save / load a scene.  A scene saves all current information necessary to recreate the current status including fader position, send levels, EQ & Pan settings, mutes & solos, locators, automations, all routings and all FX parameters.  The VS2480 had 10 pages of 10 scene locations, 100 total.  Each stored scene can be named.
 
Loading a "scene" returned everything to the state as it was saved.  This allowed me to save work progress as "scenes".  It also allowed me to save multiple "mixes", each recallable by a single click.  The "scene" feature is one I used all the time. 
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Now on the X1, I thought "Screen Set" was the same thing.  Its not.  I know now that it only has to do with the "display status".  I did rome reading on the "snap shot" feature, only to find out it only deals with "Automation".  The word "scene" does not appear in the manual index.
 
I also remember reading about "saving versions" of a project that can be loaded.  If I remember correctly, they are not permanent.  I think I have mine set to 6 versions.  That means every time I save, version 6 gets erased.
 
Being able to recall a "state / status" of a software is an extremely handy feature.  Yet, X1 seems to be lacking this feature.
 
Is there a module hidden somewhere that controls this feature?
 
Is it possible that the only way to save everything is to CREATE A NEW PROJECT with "SAVE AS"??  IF SO, is there a way, other than making the file "read only", to "lock" the file so modification can't be accidentally be made?
 
I'm so used to clicking "Mix 1" and listen to it.  Click "Mix 2" and listen again.  How do you do it?
 
Any help / suggestions are greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks
Ed
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    mudgel
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    Re:X1 Novice - Saving a "Scene" or a "Mix" ?? 2013/02/15 04:09:49 (permalink)
    whenever you save a project it will re-open with all settings as you left them at the save.

    All the settings you associate with a scene will be remembered.

    Look-up "versioning" in the manual and you may be able to use that feature satisfactorily.

    You can also save track templates and project templates which will re-open as per their saved state.

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    Re:X1 Novice - Saving a "Scene" or a "Mix" ?? 2013/02/15 04:10:44 (permalink)
    Using 'Save As' is a good way to keep different mixes or versions of the same song.

    I'm not sure there is another way to do this in Sonar.

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    Re:X1 Novice - Saving a "Scene" or a "Mix" ?? 2013/02/15 10:04:55 (permalink)
    I was thinking about this last week while I was mixing and could really use something like the "scene" feature mentioned by the OP. That would be great to be able to bring up different mixes in the same project! 
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    Re:X1 Novice - Saving a "Scene" or a "Mix" ?? 2013/02/15 11:12:01 (permalink)
    A project directory can hold multiple cwp files all pointing to the same audio data.
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    Re:X1 Novice - Saving a "Scene" or a "Mix" ?? 2013/02/15 20:09:49 (permalink)
    Hello,
     
    Hmmm . . .  I guess no such feature in Sonar X1 or X2.  Looks like "Save As" is the ONLY way to go.  That means . . .
     
    I would FIRST SAVE (normal way) - Then "Save as",  which makes it the current one on the screen - close it (no changes at all) - re-open the one before the "Save As" command to keep working.  After some progress, do it all over again EXCEPT, when you "save as", you will pick an existing "progress save" and overwrite it.
     
    When mixing, do the same as above but call it "- - - Mix 1".  Open the "file property" and change it to "Read Only" so no accidental modifications can take place.
     
    I will surely miss the "Scene" feature on my Roland VS2480.  Its a fantastic old machine that's still going strong.  I own 3 of them.  It was designed and built before Roland/Cakewalk merger/takeover . . . whichever the case might be.
     
    Who knows . . . a "Scene" feature might be part of a future X3 or X4.
     
    Thanks
    Ed
     
     
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    Re:X1 Novice - Saving a "Scene" or a "Mix" ?? 2013/02/15 21:34:50 (permalink)
    Submit this feature request via Cake's tech support page. This feature will probably be more useful than Screen Sets.
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    Re:X1 Novice - Saving a "Scene" or a "Mix" ?? 2013/02/15 22:29:34 (permalink)
    Jlien X


    Submit this feature request via Cake's tech support page. This feature will probably be more useful than Screen Sets.

    if you work on limited screen real estate , you might think differently ;-) . I think if you learn how to use em / modify them to YOUR liking then  you might change ya views.. much like instrument def's :)


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    Re:X1 Novice - Saving a "Scene" or a "Mix" ?? 2013/02/15 22:46:44 (permalink)
    Cramming too much in one project file may not be a good idea. Keeping multiple project files can be a godsend when a project file gets corrupted.
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    Re:X1 Novice - Saving a "Scene" or a "Mix" ?? 2013/02/16 00:02:18 (permalink)
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    Jlien X


    Submit this feature request via Cake's tech support page. This feature will probably be more useful than Screen Sets.

    if you work on limited screen real estate , you might think differently ;-) . I think if you learn how to use em / modify them to YOUR liking then  you might change ya views.. much like instrument def's :)
    I actually know how to used them and have saved several screensets, but because Sonar is soooooo good I can show/hide most of what I use by shortcut keys, X-ray, etc. But I was wrong, without Screensets I wouldn't even be able to recreate my usual screen 
    But why can't Sonar save mixer settings? Is it so difficult to implement? Is there any DAW that can do this? Kontakt (not a daw) can do it btw.


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