X1 Producer Questions

Ha'way Adji.

X1 has quite a few bugs right now.
The moving of tracks in the CV is relatively minor compared to some. - Audiosnap being the BIGGIE.
The workflow has changed from the Sonar7/8/8.5 model, making it much more biased to wards those that like using their computer keyboard rather than the mouse. You may like that, you may not. I'm in the not liking camp at the moment.

I'm also having problems with V-Vocal and many others are having problems with many aspects of X1.

if I were you I'd wait until X1 works or take a look at 8.5.

Thanks for the comments guys.

I'm more of a muse man myself so I might not like the whole use the keyboard crack. Is there a demo version available yet?

Adji


Hey guys, you probably don't remember me but a few years ago I posted quite a bit on this forum when I considered moving to Sonar 7 from another DAW.
Well now I' considering moving to X1 and finally taking part in the community properly but have a few questions.

- Is it really THAT bad? Everyone seems to be hating on it quite a lot but to me it looks and sounds pretty good. I use Pro Tools 9 at uni but flat out refuse to pay nearly 600 quid for it just because it is considered the 'industry standard.' Don't get me wrong, it is a good and powerful programme but it seems to me that Sonar does pretty much nearly everything pro tools does and at half the price? I dunno.

- That is basically my only question. Some of the bugs to me seem ridiculous, especially the not being able to move the tracks on the mixer window, that seems unbelievable, such a basic function left out?! But everything else seems pretty good?

I don't know why some users here are "****ing" in the FORUM?
 
Without being a SONAR "FANBOY", ----------> SONAR X1 are very stable. After A1 update no craches at all.
Work like a charm and sounds great too especially the new PRO Channel.
Windows 7 Ultimate use SONAR X1 x64bit only...

Twigman

Freddie H


After A1 update no craches at all.

Lucky you.

Have you tried Audiosnap quantise?
No didn't think so.

Have you tried using V-Vocal while your project contains unfrozen bitbridged VSTis?
No didn't think so

Have you used V-Vocal and Bounced to Clip?
I doubt it.

Yes I know that is broken, will be fixed in the new update 1b.
Come on, you not telling me that you think SONAR X1 sucks because AUDIO SNAP Q are broken?

 
No I haven't tried it, I don't use V-Vocal, I use Melodyne..
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Well Twigman - it seems to me X1 is not for you. Too bad - but you still have 8.5 until X1 (after some updates) do fit your needs. And if not - well - there is still 8.5, and that program is useful even after many years (software does not deteriorate over time)...

To the OP I would say - you can wait for the demo version to make sure you don't fork out too much money. At the other hand - if you own "8.5" it is only about $99,-. I bought it myself, and I have a very modest income, and did not regretted it one moment (although I must say here in Europe I paid €99,- but got the box with 4 DVD's, small manual and a fast start leaflet).

Anyway - if you buy the upgrade or wait for the demo, I would say - give it a run and make up your mind yourself. The discusion is a bit heated over here, so one advice is more balanced than another (I do not make any judgement about that). At the end the only thing that counts is if you can use it yourself, and not if someone else tells you if it is useful for you or not..

Adji


Hey guys, you probably don't remember me but a few years ago I posted quite a bit on this forum when I considered moving to Sonar 7 from another DAW.
Well now I' considering moving to X1 and finally taking part in the community properly but have a few questions.

- Is it really THAT bad? Everyone seems to be hating on it quite a lot but to me it looks and sounds pretty good. I use Pro Tools 9 at uni but flat out refuse to pay nearly 600 quid for it just because it is considered the 'industry standard.' Don't get me wrong, it is a good and powerful programme but it seems to me that Sonar does pretty much nearly everything pro tools does and at half the price? I dunno.

- That is basically my only question. Some of the bugs to me seem ridiculous, especially the not being able to move the tracks on the mixer window, that seems unbelievable, such a basic function left out?! But everything else seems pretty good?

Hi.  I'm not going to stay in this thread for various reasons, but here's my thoughts:
 
1- ON forums we generally will always hear much more about problems.  That's what forums are for, usually.   So one must weight that factor in.
 
2- There are those who seem to be having orgasmic experiences with X1 and those that are having issues with it.   That's normal I think. 
 
3- It's a brand new overhaul to the entire GUI so we can expect lots of problems during the initial release phase, and until they start to release serious bug fix patches, which they will.
 
SO - I would wait for the demo to come out.  Sonar is still one of the best DAWs available, so even with initial problems we can generally expect CW to take care of business and get things stable as quickly as their resources allow.
 
In the meanwhile, you can read not just about the problems, but some of the features.  You can spend time researching the changes, etc.   Then once you have the demo you will be a bit more familiar with it from the get go.
 
X1 does not suck.  I don't think anyone actually believes that (though I could be wrong).  X1 has some issues that need fixin' quickly, and I said, I think that will happen fairly soon.
 
Don't be fooled by a public forum's outpouring of opinions.  It really is normal, and let's face it -- humans have a hard time being civil lately and that is also quite common in public forums.
 
I, for one, stopped using X1 because the particular bugs I found were problematic for me.  But I'm VERY confident I'll be coming back to it after the first big bug patch.   Cakewalk has been in business a long time and I doubt they're about to let things fail everyone.   It's normal for new releases to struggle at first, so give it a little bit more time and see how the waters look then.
 
And now I bow out of this thread ;)   Good luck with your decision.