stokedboss
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X2 -- As good as it seems?
Does anyone else remember the plethora of problems that happened with the X1 release? I'm just wondering if the pre order is really worth it, or if it would be smarter to wait for all the the initial bugs to be worked out?
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Re:X2 -- As good as it seems?
2012/09/05 19:05:48
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It'd be smarter to get it now while they have the bonus going on and just not install it or install it side by side with X1 then wait to see what happens. That's what I'm probably gonna do. If it's too buggy I'll wait until they fix it to fully switch over. If it's good right out of the "box"... awesome.
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Re:X2 -- As good as it seems?
2012/09/05 19:06:21
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Do what your gut says. I use Sonar X1 daily and i have not ran into any bugs when using it. Even when it was just released. to each ther own. What bugs are you seeing in X1? Just ask yourslef if you should do it or not do it.
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Re:X2 -- As good as it seems?
2012/09/05 19:15:39
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A few days ago I bought X1 Producer - am I eligible for a free download of X2?
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Dave Modisette
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Re:X2 -- As good as it seems?
2012/09/05 19:37:38
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ABull
A few days ago I bought X1 Producer - am I eligible for a free download of X2?
Should be.
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Rasure
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Re:X2 -- As good as it seems?
2012/09/05 19:41:59
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I cant see it being as buggy as X1 was. When X1 was released there was no webinar before hand, at least we have seen X2 in action for the most part :-)
IMO X2 is what X1 should have been, cant wait to get my hands on it!
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stokedboss
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Re:X2 -- As good as it seems?
2012/09/05 19:58:20
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Yeah, I'll probably pick it up anyway. If it turns out to be super buggy, I've always got X1 to fall back on!
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Re:X2 -- As good as it seems?
2012/09/05 20:38:52
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Rasure
I cant see it being as buggy as X1 was. When X1 was released there was no webinar before hand, at least we have seen X2 in action for the most part :-)
IMO X2 is what X1 should have been, cant wait to get my hands on it!
There was no webinar, but they did show video of it performing functions that didn't work upon release. Many posts about that IIRC. It made folks wonder how Cake could get a working version, but we couldn't ... Anyone who claims they used X1 from initial release and never ran in to a single bug from day 1 is either FOS or only used it as a basic unlimited multichannel recorder and didn't use half of it's functions. There was lots broken in X1 when it was released, and there still is lots broken that will never be fixed now. And I'd be willing to wager there's lots wrong with X2. There's been things wrong with every single release of Sonar going as far back as I remember, and most of the bugs never get fixed before they end it's life cycle. They better have fixed the Pro Channel in X2 ...
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Re:X2 -- As good as it seems?
2012/09/05 20:40:52
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If it turns out to be super buggy, I've always got X1 to fall back on! That's my take on it. I can at least learn all the new stuff with X1 as a safety net. But as Rasure pointed out, there was a 90 minute live Webinar using X2 today, so chances are it will not be a repeat of the initial X1 release.
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Re:X2 -- As good as it seems?
2012/09/05 21:10:42
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stokedboss
Does anyone else remember the plethora of problems that happened with the X1 release? I'm just wondering if the pre order is really worth it, or if it would be smarter to wait for all the the initial bugs to be worked out?
It is a very poor analogy to compare the release of X2 to that of X1.. X1 was a fundamental ground up makeover of the prior version... while X2 is an improved iteration... while undoubtedly there will be a patch before the end of the year i suspect X2 will be stable and usable from day 1.
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Re:X2 -- As good as it seems?
2012/09/05 21:15:19
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Also it's worth noting that, X1 was totally new. I mean they changed almost everything from 8.5.3. It's obvious to see bugs in a product with such a huge scope. Now that their framework is in place and pretty solid, I wouldn't expect a lots of bugs.
I am waiting for the youtube version as I missed the webinar today.
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Dave Modisette
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Re:X2 -- As good as it seems?
2012/09/05 21:17:41
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I don't anticipate this update having nearly the issues that I had with the initial release of X1. (Hope springs eternal) 
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Re:X2 -- As good as it seems?
2012/09/05 21:26:25
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Well there's a whole basket full of new features and improvements in X2 that makes me want it right away. The seminar's demo of it seemed to be working fine considering it was a live webinar. No crashes were to be seen.
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stevec
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Re:X2 -- As good as it seems?
2012/09/05 21:41:32
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The seminar's demo of it seemed to be working fine considering it was a live webinar. No crashes were to be seen. And I liked that they used a little bit of everything new in X2, live and on-the-fly, no editing out anything less than fresh.
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Re:X2 -- As good as it seems?
2012/09/05 21:49:06
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Well once I seen auto zoom in action, I was hooked, everything else is just icing on the cake !!
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Re:X2 -- As good as it seems?
2012/09/05 22:07:47
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I upgraded to X1 from 8.5 last week and was starting to wonder if Native Instruments was ever going to release more serial numbers for the included Guitar Rig 4... after seeing the webinar, I don't care. I think TH2 was what I was waiting for all these years. Also, i agree with djwayne, the timeline zoom looks awesome.
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Re:X2 -- As good as it seems?
2012/09/06 07:58:47
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I think X2 will be very good. If you think about it, it is a further expansion of X1 expanded which is quite stable overall. Now that layers are gone, many will have a better experience with it in my view.
Personally I concur with others and I want it NOW!!!
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Re:X2 -- As good as it seems?
2012/09/06 10:17:27
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I'll be a cautious observer of X2 going into release and installation. even though I've already ordered it I think I'll wait for feedback from those who install early.
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stokedboss
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Re:X2 -- As good as it seems?
2012/09/06 10:57:20
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I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it goes. I have high hopes though, I imagine Cake should of learned from the mistakes of yesteryear.
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