X2 Console Emulator - just curious...

that is what people are implying isn't it.

Nice combo...

If they even come close to that it will be a nice feature... I hope/imagine there's also a way to bypass all 3 and have the "transparent" ability?

I'm a big fan and long time user of all the boards mentioned.... I'm sure to use the Neve and Trident sound often.... Maybe they'll add more emulations so we can have Helios, API, and others as well!

Keni

Keni


Maybe they'll add more emulations so we can have Helios, API, and others as well!

Keni

I'm waiting for the Behringer emulation 

Silicon Audio

Keni


Maybe they'll add more emulations so we can have Helios, API, and others as well!

Keni

I'm waiting for the Behringer emulation 

Yes, but don't laugh too hard yet.... Save some for years from now when someone decides they want that Behringer sound! Reminds me of wanting the Sears Silvertone sound... People actually pay extra money to have access to a sound we all laughed at when it came out! ;-)

Keni

For all the dissing of behringer I am always amazed at often I find their products being used...

I have several of the midi devices that function quite well...that being said both Mackie and Behringer should stay out of your audio signal path where it matters...control info is small and non-intrusive...but let those guys mess with the A/D conversion and you WILL regret it...

(Although there is a mod to bypass the preamps in the behringer octopre that allows a fairly decent conversion...its the stinking preamp channels these guys use that is pure harshness)

I have the same feeling about focusrite...wet blanket comes to mind...

Jim Roseberry


 
For the money, the ADA-8000 really isn't too bad...
The noise-floor is actually lower than the original Digimax. 
       

Yo, even on GearSlutz the consensus seems to be that the ADA-8000 is pretty awesome for the money (have a look at the numerous Behringer vs. Slutty Brand blind tests). 

I suppose I should have qualified some of that...being a bit of a "modder" myself...(I've built a R.E.D.D. 47, helped design Mohogs 1176, built a few Neves and API's)...

The ADA-8k (I have one in the closet) is certainly much better than what I started out with (mAudio unit>>>>Delta 1010>>>>Echo Something>>>>Motu Fire-thingy>>>Lynx/Prism/Apogee stuff right now...)

Certainly better sounding that a lot of Digi crassness...

Its just you cannot bypass the incredibly inferior/noisy/blanket preamp section unless you mod the Unit...

Over-all A/D has reached a sort of plateau now-a-days that is stellar compared to 10-15 yeas ago...so just about any plug-n-play unit has better chips than we were running years back...

So unless you really want to beef up to some Wolfson chipset or run Burr Brown stuff...your A/D is going to be pretty darn ok...and in my opinion...the place that gets trashed is in design where there is no way to bypass a very second rate pre-amp channel...which they all seem to have some kind of mud mix as part of the design...

Between that and not clearing the isolation barrier for the PSU's the STN ratio is a bit of a distraction...Mackie stuff is spec'd out pretty good on STN...but if you actually listen to it, the noise is unbearable...its not the chips...its the rest of the design...

Cheap power supplies...ridiculous grounding schemes... noisy components...cheap pots...etc...these are the things that don't show up on a signal to noise spec sheet....

But yeah...still much much better than the crapola we were running 10 years ago...

> Yep, I have an ADA-8000 myself and it performs pretty good. All the converter chips are Alesis and it's probably based on an Alesis reference design. Just one gain pot per channel, so not much to get wrong there I guess.

I had ADA-8000 for 3 years. There was nothing wrong with the converters and preamps were OK, too. PSU was the weakest part of the unit - it broke after three years.

At the same time my Apogee converters have been working perfectly for the last 10 years, two RME Firefaces 7 years in the same environment.