X2 Crashing Constantly expanding Pro-Channel and opening Plug-Ins

This is beating me up: X2 is crashing for me almost every 10-15 minutes, when I randomly expand Pro-Channel or try to open various plug-ins. I think it's crashed maybe 15-20 times in the last few hours of working. Is there a crash-log I can view to see what could be causing this? I can't submit this as a bug because it's random and may not be reproduce-able on others' systems. It's almost like there's some tweak needed to tolerate a program/CPU spike when doing such things, and X2 just "gives up" instantly and doesn't try to recover. Going back to X1 for now...

How about providing your complete system specs, recent OS install/upgrade, any such info would help us to better understand your particular environment, and would probably result in much better and willing assistance with your issues.

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Thanks - looking forward to trying to help you clear up your issues here, 

Bob Bone

hmmm, messy board. Is there a way to format text? They look good in this window, but not when the post finally hits the site. I suspect it's an open-source board, not that I have anything against them.

The forum has some serious bugs in Firefox; it just doesn't work the way it should do. I'm keeping Firefox anyway and not downgrading (version 3 works with the forum) but, it works fine with Chrome... On topic: I'm having the same problems as you and it's terribly frustrating... I just save every time I make a change I definitely want to keep and know I won't be able to remember/will be a hassle to repeat, and work around it (not that one should be expected to, but hey)... No updates, fixes or Preferences menu changes have helped (or are going to), apart from probably decreasing audio quality, which definitely isn't an option. It's nothing to do with my soundcard either because it happens often whilst not in playback, too. My build is 306 and not 308, but, according to the list of QuickFixes, this won't resolve my problems it seems. Here's hoping the next X2 patch does the job!!!

The quickfix *will* most likely address this issue. There is no reason to not install it.

I installed it on the advice of one of the cake staff, even though my issues weren't listed' and it fixed it perfectly.  Solid as a rock now.  No more crashes.

Glad it's worked.  Is it all okay now, then?

Automation issues are independent from the crashes which would be addressed with the quickfix. Can you explain in more detail exactly what parameters you are automating with the steps? Also please log a problem report with as much detail as possible and an attached project file that demonstrates it. List the CWBRN number here.

There's many things about automation that don't make sense to me, and even more so in X2. I've experienced the same sort of issue with automation as Mike, which is due to the fact that X1/X2 doesn't seem to forewarn the signal path that "we are about to quickly turn up the Gain or Volume on this track", so the API to the drivers is late to respond and thus you get get artifacts (some pretty frikkin NASTY!). Now, something I want to address when it come sto automation is the ill-deployment of "lanes", which i find to be pretty klunky and more or less "thrown together". Some more thought put behind this would be beneficial. When the track's subtracts are collapsed, you only see the 'first' sub-track in the track, not the entire list of sub-tracks (i.e. T1, T2, T3, and so on). However, your automation shows up in the collapsed track. in this case it's near impossible to accurately perform automation changes or edits when only seeing the 'first' sub-track and not the one you have solo'd. For example, if I have a lead vocal track that has 3 sub-tracks, or lanes (or whatever people call them depending on the DAW), the first two of which are muted, and I collapse the track so that the sub-tracks are no longer showing, any automation I set to sub-track T3 will be transposed on top of the only sub-track displayed, which is T1. This can quickly become confusing. More, I experience issues where certain automated segments of the envelope just stop responding to mouse-clicks. The only fix I have found is the infamous Restart Sonar, or re-open the session. @Noel: yep, still found some crashes with plug-ins after the patch. I'm eagerly awaiting X2a before coming back to Sonar. Also, I sincerely apologize for this huge paragraph that appears un-formatted. It's the board doing that, not me.

Same here, brconflict, re take/automation lane disorganisation & confusion... Sharke, my DAW is custom built and I only use it for music purposes. I also have nothing in my system tray aside from my soundcard driver/control panel (same as yours btw), and I deselect all irrelevent processes from start-up with CCleaner, as well as regularly defragging and fixing the registry. I also have 'authorization-less' admin priviliges on everything. I really don't think that's the problem, for me at least.