X2 Prod: What's the diff. between FX in the FX bin and in the FX Chain?

Hi Beep,

You can, however, add an effects chain into the ProChannel and then add you're fave non PC effects into that.


Edit: Oops... just read your post again and you mentioned that. Sorry :)

HNY, synkro!

Yup, I can see that. I'm just wondering what difference it makes. Is the FX bin now outdated because of the new FX Chain insert in X2? I do like being able to pop open my effects GUIs from the Console but I don't see a way to view the FX chain without opening the Inspector.

Sorry... maybe I'm being weird.

Cheers.

@Rocky... Thanks. I guess the FX bin probably is outdated then.

The FX bin is visible in the Inspector in the clip and track tabs, you have to scroll to see it. The ProChannel has nothing to do with the FX bin. By default, the FX bin is after the Prochannel in the signal chain. Effects in the FX bin can be docked. As of now, effects in FX chains cannot be docked. You can use FX chains in either the FX bin or the Prochannel. To access FX chains in the Prochannel you either get at them in the Inspector or expand the Prochannel in the Console view.

You can add FX Chains to either the PC or FX bins. FX Chains allow you to combine existing plug-ins into a single unit with customized controls, etc. Essentially, it allows you to use your existing plug-ins to "build" your own effects. And an FX Chain only takes up one slot in the FX bin, where as the individual plug-ins it represents would take up multiple slots. Scott

Took me a minute to parse that out but that's pretty cool. Thanks, Scott!

I must admit that for my own music I am managing to keep things simple, for now. Where I can, I use Pro Channel. And I often use one or two effects busses, again using PC on the buss.

Tis a good idea though, to get to grips with all our beloved DAW can do. I'm just not able to learn the same as I used to when I considered myself to be a MIDI "expert" lol.

Since the arrival of PC FX Chains, I no longer use the FX bin.  I know others do the same.

@synkro... Yup but I'm giving myself a crash course (again) by slowly dissecting the manual. Now that I don't have to tear down my DAW every night and I don't have a ton of household distractions I can finally dig into the meat of it. It also helps that I'm a little more familiar with the general stuff in Sonar after muddling my way through things the past six months or so. I have learned a lot in just the past week since I've started focusing on the manual every day for at least a few hours. 

@scook... yup. Not working. Maybe it got fixed in the "a" patch but I'm still holding off on that. I've started a bookmarks folder for threads containing fixes and workarounds for a patch problems. If I can get my head around stuff I'll take the dive but a lot of it is hyper technical. :-/

@jb... Howdy. Yeah, I'm not sure which way I'm going to take my workflow yet but it's good to have all the options in my noodle. The only thing I can think of that would keep me using the strip FX Bins is that because I have not figured out how to properly save and recall strip presets yet I don't want to lose my current mixing workflow. Essentially when I clone a bunch of guitar tracks or takes I like being able to easily copy/drag altered FX instances to the next strip.... sorry that might be confusing... but it's something I do. If I can reliably save and recall an entire strips parameters including FX setting then I'll stop doing it that way. Cheers and HNY. ;-)  



@twisted... I don't follow. The FX chain box can be yanked from the PC and dragged to the Multi Dock? I saw that thread earlier eluding to something like this but had no idea what was going on. Cheers. 

backwoods


Why wouldn't you goto X2a beepster?

Hi, dude. I've got it dl'd but because of some of the wackiness being reported I'm holding off. A lot of the complaints and fixes are WAY above my head so I'm holding off until I can be sure if something does go wrong I know I can fix it. I currently have the QuickFix installed and really X2 306 was working reasonably well anyway so it's fine while I work through the manual. I'm going on the premise that much of the Win 8 stuff may have introduced new bugs that haven't been thoroughly discovered and reported yet so a "b" patch might be worth the wait. Also seeing as how the patch came out just before the holidays our user knowledge base here on the forum hasn't reached peak yet as people are probably hanging out with their families instead of sitting behind their DAWs.

Yeah... I think too much sometimes. Happy New Year. ;-)

@backwoods... Right on. I'm starting to see a lot more happy reports so that's encouraging.

I just got a weird feeling I might be one of the ones who ends up with a problem so I'm trusting my gut. 

Now here's a weird question... is the AIM Assist line supposed to disappear when the cursor is over the timeline? I'd like it to be there when I'm setting loop points and other stuff. 

Cheers.

Nothing to add to this thread except to point out that there are those of us who do not use the ProChannel at all and would like to keep using the FX Bin.

In X2a, the Aim assist disappears when the cursor is in the timeline.

  I'd like the FX bin to stay too just because it's another way of doing things so that's always good. I do recall Seth and Brandon saying in the X2 Webinar that the FX Bin wasn't going anywhere and the FX Chain Module was just an extra. 

That's a drag about the AIM Assist thingy. Seems odd they would do it that way. :-/

Heh. I'm a rebel. Thanks. ;-)

scook

The B patch (if there is one) is going to have people reporting issues too.

A good point, and I also just end up jumping in there anyway. But I'm not a pro so I can afford to do that.