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2017/08/08 14:27:39 (permalink)

X2 Producer_Template menu gone and Session Drummer 3 won't load.

Recently I tried to install an X3 upgrade I purchased awhile back, it didn't go well. Had major problems with audio engine stoppage that I could not remedy after trying numerous fixes. I uninstalled and went back to X2 which runs like a charm.....except when I create a new project, the Template menu is missing. I can find the Template folder on the drive, X2 just can't seem to find it. Yesterday I was going to dig in and start learning to do some drum programming with the Step Sequencer in Session Drummer 3 and it won't load despite specifying the folder in the VST scanner and rescanning. I have it loaded in a project from before the attempted X3 upgrade and it shows up and functions perfectly, but can't even be found when creating a new project. Any thoughts before I do a clean reinstall? Thanks.
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    Zargg
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    Re: X2 Producer_Template menu gone and Session Drummer 3 won't load. 2017/08/08 15:22:17 (permalink)
    Hi. Did you install the X3e update?
    https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013361/SONAR-X3e-Update
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    Re: X2 Producer_Template menu gone and Session Drummer 3 won't load. 2017/08/08 15:52:59 (permalink)
    Yes, tried the X3 update, staying with X2 which is much more stable on my system except for the specific glitches in my original post, which only occurred after the X3 attempt.
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    Re: X2 Producer_Template menu gone and Session Drummer 3 won't load. 2017/08/08 17:09:22 (permalink)
    I've seen similar post suggestions, seems I'm not the only one to suffer this problem and since I can't locate a setup.exe file anywhere to attempt a custom installation of just what's missing, an uninstall/clean install is my fate. Grrrrrr.
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    Re: X2 Producer_Template menu gone and Session Drummer 3 won't load. 2017/08/08 17:15:04 (permalink)
    Have you tried to do an advanced install?
    You should be able to install some of the features, without having to reinstall the whole package.
    It comes up as an alternative during the installation process. 

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    Re: X2 Producer_Template menu gone and Session Drummer 3 won't load. 2017/08/08 17:18:40 (permalink)
    I can't locate the setup.exe file without extracting the whole digital download package. Scott Garrigus jolted my memory, I use Acronis True Image and have a clone of my master drive. I can reset the entire drive in about a half hour, will take far less time and effort.
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    Re: X2 Producer_Template menu gone and Session Drummer 3 won't load. 2017/08/08 17:21:19 (permalink)
    Best of luck to you.

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    Re: X2 Producer_Template menu gone and Session Drummer 3 won't load. 2017/08/08 17:28:31 (permalink)
    Thanks.
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    Re: X2 Producer_Template menu gone and Session Drummer 3 won't load. 2017/08/08 18:18:54 (permalink)
    river
    I can't locate the setup.exe file without extracting the whole digital download package.


    The Digital download came in sections, Sonar PT1 / Sonar PT2 / Loop content / EXC.. 
    you simply take the original Sonar X2 PT 1 or X3 PT 1 install and do an advanced install like Ken mentioned.
    When you being install just go to advanced and select only session drummer.
     
    This will take less than 10 minutes Vs total reinstall which typically takes a lot longer than 10 minutes if Windows, Sonar and other plug ins are  installed.
     
    It was a known issue that session drummer 3 would disappear in some cases.
    I believe it was X3.

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    Re: X2 Producer_Template menu gone and Session Drummer 3 won't load. 2017/08/08 19:26:10 (permalink)
    Thanks, will try that.
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    Re: X2 Producer_Template menu gone and Session Drummer 3 won't load. 2017/08/08 20:16:18 (permalink)
    Didn't work, having to reinstall the entire package. 
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    Re: X2 Producer_Template menu gone and Session Drummer 3 won't load. 2017/08/08 22:24:57 (permalink)
    That didn't work either, reinstalled the entire platform 3 times and Session Drummer 3 is still MIA, except in the project I already had it in. Works fine and dandy there. I'm done. Hey Cakewalk, how about a refund for the X3 upgrade that caused all this misery?
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    Re: X2 Producer_Template menu gone and Session Drummer 3 won't load. 2017/08/08 22:42:01 (permalink)
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    Re: X2 Producer_Template menu gone and Session Drummer 3 won't load. 2017/08/08 22:45:16 (permalink)
    It's not being recognized by X2 either from the X2 download folder. X3 is gone. BTW, the VST scanner craps out now too.
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    Re: X2 Producer_Template menu gone and Session Drummer 3 won't load. 2017/08/08 22:53:10 (permalink)
    Did you remove the X3 Session Drummer before attempting to install an older version? If not, the Session Drummer 3 from X3 is still there. The X2 installer will not overwrite the newer version.
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    Re: X2 Producer_Template menu gone and Session Drummer 3 won't load. 2017/08/08 22:58:21 (permalink)
    If I did a complete uninstall of X3, wouldn't it remove everything?
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    Re: X2 Producer_Template menu gone and Session Drummer 3 won't load. 2017/08/08 23:03:53 (permalink)
    Check the date on the Session Drummer dll. If it is newer than 2012, it came from X3.
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    Re: X2 Producer_Template menu gone and Session Drummer 3 won't load. 2017/08/08 23:15:48 (permalink)
    Thanks, will look at that tomorrow. I did notice a slight difference in the filepath between the working instance in the one project and in attempts to load it in a new project: vst vs. Vst.
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    Re: X2 Producer_Template menu gone and Session Drummer 3 won't load. 2017/08/09 13:37:26 (permalink)
    Mystery solved. SD3 is loaded from the vst menu and is listed there as simply "Session Drummer", even though there's a discrete listing for SD2 from my S6 PE installation. I was expecting it to be listed by its particular version, but it isn't.
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    Re: X2 Producer_Template menu gone and Session Drummer 3 won't load. 2017/08/09 13:48:19 (permalink)
    Even more confusing, the original Session Drummer was called Session Drummer, then there was 2, then Session Drummer.

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