X2 and Omnisphere exporting/track freeze issues

I have several projects done in Sonar X1 that export/track freeze as expected.
Those same projects, same hardware, same settings in X2, freezing the track or exporting output sounds bad. 

It sounds like a track playing on an overtaxed machine with ultra low latency (very garbled).

It only happens on Omnisphere tracks - all of my other soft synths seem to be working fine.  
Has anyone else noticed this?

Thanks
John

Machine spec:
Intel 2600K
Asus MB
8 Gig Ram
RME UFX interface via Firewire
Multi drives (one for OS, one for projects, one for Sample libs)

That is new to me on the fast bounce, but I am hearing the same thing with exported files as well.

John

John - thanks for the info.
I'll keep testing.

John

jbraner

but I am hearing the same thing with exported files as well.

Exporting works the same way - and Omnisphere likes you to turn fast bounce off. It's buried somewhere in the documentation ;-)
 
The reason for this is - Omnisphere is pulling it's sounds off disk, and if it can't do this quick enough - you'll hear problems in your export or bounce. did you ever notice that sometimes Omnisphere splutters on a note or two when you first run through your track? That's because it didn't load the sounds form disk quick enough. There is a setting for how much of each sound is cached - and normally, the next time you run through the track it's fine.
 
I'll bet that's what's happening to you.
 
Meno - if you're using fast bounce (the same applies to export) OK, then your Omnisphere is not having problems keeping up. Just remember that it may *not* work sometimes.

OK thanks John I will keep this in mind.

LittleWiggler


Great discussion - I just am puzzled on why it works fine in X1 but is having issues in X2 right now.  I hope to test later today or tomorrow.

Rememember the audio engine in x2 has been rewritten, I have noticed some issues along the way too regarding audio

jbraner


Remember, you can't use fast bounce with Omnisphere.

Works here too..... I think...

The problem isn't specific to X2, I have seen the same thing with both 8.5 and X1. 

It doesn't necessarily happen every time, which is why some users say they haven't seen the problem. It seems to happen on certain large and/or layered samples (meaning most patches in Omnisphere), and may also depend on drive speed or disk buffer sizes - I haven't figured out the exact combination so I just make a habit of slow freezing/bouncing/exporting Omnisphere tracks.

In fact, I usually turn off the fast-bounce option when exporting in general because Omnisphere isn't the only plugin that doesn't like fast bounces. Rather than keeping track of them all I just always do a slow export, which avoids several potential problems.

I did, however, once have a project that would screw up with fast bounce but also  screwed up (in a different manner) with a slow bounce! That project had both SampleTank and Omnisphere. SampleTank would ignore some MIDI automation when slow-bounced, so I had to freeze it first and then export slow for Omnisphere's sake.

Hey, if this stuff was easy anybody could do it!