CowboyDan: This mistake you're making is a strawman fallacy. You've taken my argument (that all forums should allow the most basic functions) and re-characterizing my argument as 'all forums should work exactly the same way'. Of course, I am not saying all forums should work exactly the same way apart from BASIC functions. A better analogy is this, 'All functioning cars should have wheels'. This is objectively true. If you sell a car without wheels, you can't get annoyed if your potential car-buyers complain when they're expecting a car they can drive around. A forum without the option to have carriage returns is a forum, yes, but it's a crappy forum worse than Prodigy on a Windows 3.1 system. Honestly, I didn't come here to be forum critic, but because my Sonar X2 is unusable to me and I have a broken forum to seek help. It's insult to injury. But, it would be remiss of me not to speak up about how gawd-awful this forum is. I can't even type in away that makes my posts readable, due to the ridiculous lack of a carriage-return.

NukleoN


CowboyDan: This mistake you're making is a strawman fallacy. You've taken my argument (that all forums should allow the most basic functions) and re-characterizing my argument as 'all forums should work exactly the same way'. Of course, I am not saying all forums should work exactly the same way apart from BASIC functions. A better analogy is this, 'All functioning cars should have wheels'. This is objectively true. If you sell a car without wheels, you can't get annoyed if your potential car-buyers complain when they're expecting a car they can drive around. A forum without the option to have carriage returns is a forum, yes, but it's a crappy forum worse than Prodigy on a Windows 3.1 system. Honestly, I didn't come here to be forum critic, but because my Sonar X2 is unusable to me and I have a broken forum to seek help. It's insult to injury. But, it would be remiss of me not to speak up about how gawd-awful this forum is. I can't even type in away that makes my posts readable, due to the ridiculous lack of a carriage-return.

No one can argue that the forum software is great or even good.  To be frank it sucks. However, its shortcomings can be overcome by using an older version of Firefox. I use 3.5 to post on this forum.

If that is not something you wish to use Chrome will work well enough but not perfectly.

Step recording is from all that I know not a part of the Step Sequencer. There are good instructions in the help file for both. They are meant to do different things if that is what you are having problems with.

I really feel for the OP - it's never a good thing when one is having a hard time with their DAW of choice. I sincerely hope they can get it fixed. I would recommend calling technical support to see if they can help.
OTOH, am I only one who detects a note of cognitive dissonance? The OP Is willing to trade Sonar for a different DAW at the first sign of problems but they won't patch/change browsers to be able to make a post that's readable?
Good luck, NukleoN, hope you get your technical problems ironed out.

Everytime you hit return in FF, also type

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Sucks yes. I'm used to it cause I'm a web developer haha

FBB, I use either a MIDI controller or the mouse I can't recall ever trying to use my computer keyboard for any of that.

BUG!

Thank you Freddie!

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  Hi Miguelito, Yes, I'm willing to change DAWs because Sonar isn't just showing me their carelessness with their DAW but also their forum. Both are busted-up right now. Can I changed DAWs? Yes. Does it cost me money? Yes. The problem is, even if I were to use a different browser as a workaround for this broken forum, Sonar 2 would still be a hot mess. So, I have little choice. I either switch to a working DAW or I wait for Cakewalk to fix X2 AND their forum. Switching DAWs gets me a new DAW AND a working forum where my words are mushed together in a r-e-t-a-r-d-e-d fashion. It's cute that Cakewalk ccensors the word r-e-t-a-r-d-e-d but doesn't fix their bloody lack of carriage returns in Firefox. LOL. I can't even organize my thoughts on this forum in a way that makes it easy for people to digest. This really does piss me off, and I blame this squarely on Cakewalk's carelessness and inattention to detail. Check out MOTU's forum, it's rock-solid (I'm already a member). I am a member of many forums and also run a forum. Again, it's not about the people, but the forum itself. I've been trying a lot of different DAW demos here and am quite impressed with the competition. I've basically ignored the competition all these years because I was formerly reasonably-happy with Cakewalk. But, this is the risk of treating customers like Beta-testers. If you peeve them off enough, they start looking elsewhere. This forum *is* objective proof that they don't care to make it work with a valid browser, FireFox. I use FireFox because it suppresses tool-tips in Facebook and browses as well as anything else out there. It's a feature thing, not because Chrome or IE are broken.

Hi all,in this forum i often see the problems discussed in general. It's wrong for me.You have the ASIO problems,i'm not(3,5 ms latency). Post your spec and i can try to help you.Best.Roby

Sorry i haven't read your spec.My mistake.

Hi Miguelito, Yes, I'm willing to change DAWs because Sonar isn't just showing me their carelessness with their DAW but also their forum. Both are busted-up right now. Can I changed DAWs? Yes. Does it cost me money? Yes. The problem is, even if I were to use a different browser as a workaround for this broken forum, Sonar 2 would still be a hot mess. So, I have little choice. I either switch to a working DAW or I wait for Cakewalk to fix X2 AND their forum. Switching DAWs gets me a new DAW AND a working forum where my words are mushed together in a r-e-t-a-r-d-e-d fashion. It's cute that Cakewalk ccensors the word r-e-t-a-r-d-e-d but doesn't fix their bloody lack of carriage returns in Firefox. LOL. I can't even organize my thoughts on this forum in a way that makes it easy for people to digest. This really does piss me off, and I blame this squarely on Cakewalk's carelessness and inattention to detail. Check out MOTU's forum, it's rock-solid (I'm already a member). I am a member of many forums and also run a forum. Again, it's not about the people, but the forum itself. I've been trying a lot of different DAW demos here and am quite impressed with the competition. I've basically ignored the competition all these years because I was formerly reasonably-happy with Cakewalk. But, this is the risk of treating customers like Beta-testers. If you peeve them off enough, they start looking elsewhere. This forum *is* objective proof that they don't care to make it work with a valid browser, FireFox. I use FireFox because it suppresses tool-tips in Facebook and browses as well as anything else out there. It's a feature thing, not because Chrome or IE are broken.

 
Best of luck with that.

What are these "serious" problems X2 is supposed to have?

I'm genuinely curious

 @Bristol_Jonesey: 'So when you find out that competition's software also exhibits similar problems, who you going to blame then? ' Yes. But, they won't all have similar problems. Does all software have bugs? Yes. Does all software have bugs in equal quantity or severity? No. As a developer, I'm well-aware of not only this but varying reputations among developers for that reason. It's not my intent to bash, but this IS a Cakewalk forum. Where else better to air grievances but here, without Cakewalk support having to be in direct communication? Also, other DAWs have demos. It's easy to compare basic features and see if they work or not, and how well they work. It's also easy to compare ASIO driver functionality in a very direct fashion. This is in-part the point and benefit of demos, I suspect. Believe me, I want to see Cakewalk succeed, and my unbridled criticism is the best thing they can ask for because if I keep it to myself, what good is that? I'd want to know if a long-term customer were giving up on my product too. As a developer, you wouldn't catch me having a forum this bad either and I would never make excuses for it unless it were simply not fixable, but given that other forums work with Firefox, it's clearly a Cakewalk problem. They're either too careless to fix it or too cheap to get license a better forum technology like VBulletin for their purposes. Even a free SMF forum works very nicely with FireFox, so this lack of a carriage-return is inexcusable sloppiness (kinda like aspects of X2). Even the menu at the end of a post isn't well thought-out because it's unnecessary. All submitted posts should take you back to your post by default. Believe me, I am JUST AS HARD on a company I work with or for if they have such terrible functionality or bugs. So, this may sound annoying to some of you, but my intent is to wake Cakewalk up before I take my leave, because having them quietly lose a customer of over 20+ years should come with an explanation. It's a courtesy, even if it comes off as bashing. I also think Cakewalk needs to be much closer attention to quality-control, even at the expense of features. For instance, when I turn off mic-monitoring, I shouldn't have to turn it off and on and off again to get it to go off. Little things like that just annoy the user. When I go to advance step-record and it wants to rename my track, that basically breaks step-record, at least for those using the QWERTY keyboard to advance time.

To be honest the whining about the forum just seems so unnecessary. I can't imagine the quality of a product's forum having any bearing whatsoever upon whether or not I continued to use that product. 

Yes the forum software is a little old and Firefox seems to choke on it. But for heaven's sake dude just use another browser to view it. Any tech-savvy, web-savvy person will have 2 or more browsers installed on their computer in case a site gives them problems in a particular browser. I personally use Chrome and Firefox - mainly Chrome, but occasionally Firefox when a site's giving me trouble in Chrome. It's absolutely no trouble at all. You just click the icon for the browser and then load the page. What's the big deal? No point whining that "you shouldn't have to." The web is imperfect and we sometimes have to use different tools to navigate it. Get over it. 

As for Firefox "suppressing Facebook tooltips" I don't even know what you're talking about. I see no difference in Facebook behavior between Firefox and Chrome. If you want to customize your Facebook experience then just install Social Fixer, you can tailor it to your exact specifications. 

I've used a few DAW's (along with their associated forums) and I really haven't noticed Sonar having any more problems than the others. Doesn't matter which DAW you use, if you browse the forums you will find people who are having no problems and people who are frustrated every step of the way. The thing about forums though is that by their nature they tend to attract people who are having problems - that's why they turned to the forum in the first place. You're forgetting that the vast majority of Sonar users never even post on this forum. You cannot judge a DAW by the number of people on its forum who are having problems, because that number is innately skewed to begin with. 

Of course Sonar has its problems. I believe that software in general is not tested sufficiently, and is not designed carefully enough. Every day I wrestle with bugs and design flaws in just about everything I use. I wouldn't single out Sonar though. For me, it's giving me far less problems than Pro Tools, supposedly the "industry standard," which choked and crashed and behaved annoyingly every time I used it. 

  FWIW - I tried IE Tab and all it did was freeze Firefox when I tried to use it here, and once I got past that, it slowed general browsing to a crawl. And it displayed more bad manners by refusing to stay disabled. So I removed it, and will just use some other browser here if I really need to. It's not that big of deal to me, nor it is anything new - there are several other sites where I have to switch browsers, too.

I"ve just moved from an iPhone 4 to a Samsung Galaxy SII and I can't activate the typing dialog box to enter a comment. I can log in OK and use every other forum as usuual; except this one. After I've logged in I can't add any text whatsover.

As I mostly access this forum from my phone I guess I wont be here that much anymore.