X2 versus PT 10?

Mesh


At first it's going to be like  just because they  their own , which will lead to someone else responding with  and will try to show them the  why it's a  to go that route. 
Then, it'll start to get  and another will say "you're just " for spending $200 just for an upgrade that should be included as they're just bug fixes.
Then a full blown  will erupt and some  and a few choice including  which will get those two from the forum until they cool down and can  &  in agreeing to go  without treating each other like   in a public forum so that everyone can be .




.....that should cover it.

Yeah...that...

Pro Tools 10 should just be banned from recording...

Still 32 bit....still LAME....still the self-proclaimed "Industry Standard"

Arrogance and Ego know no bounds....

And PT10 is the proof....

Ya, the nerve of the industry leader to proclaim themselves the industry leader.

 

cclarry

bapu


Ya, the nerve of the industry leader to proclaim themselves the industry leader.

Technically they are NOT the industry LEADER...


Here in the STATES PT is in more studios...but worldwide....CUBASE is in more studios, which, would make IT the INDUSTRY STANDARD.

Did I say PT? No.


I just re-read my post and it seems I said "the industry leader".

Can this be moved upstairs pls?

cclarry

Here in the STATES PT is in more studios...but worldwide....CUBASE is in more studios, which, would make IT the INDUSTRY STANDARD. 

Did Avid publish those stats or was it Steinberg?


And are we sure EVERY studio in the ENTIRE world was accounted for?

I love protools 

Ladies really shouldn't have facial hair.

(Just sayin'...)

Most of the recording studios (in a traditional sense, recording bands and such) I've seen were equipped w/ Pro Tools. Because, among other things, they could afford it. I'm pretty sure Paul McCartney's last album wasn't edited in Cubase, even if it was recorded outside of the US. 

Out of the mainstream, maybe... But I'd be tempted to bet you that Live rules them all out.

The definition of studio has been stretched beyond recognition in the last 10 years - a laptop w/ Cubase and a pair of cans and you can deliver the score to a documentary or whatnot.

Likewise, the whole DJ scene has loosened our definition. These guys are often self-procalimed "professional" and "international DJs", but this doesn't mean they generate enough money to rig their studio w/ Pro Tools. I bet you half these guys still live in their mom's basement.

Pro these days means exposure. 

So in a sense, the INDUSTRY standard (as in major labels, major recording artists) does indeed rely on PT. 

The various music scenes are a different story. For a DJ, Live is 1000 years ahead of Pro Tools. For an industrial band (2 guys wearing eyeliner w/ plenty of fishnets and pvc but no hardware synths), Fruity Loops or Cubase may be the best option.

Rain


Most of the recording studios (in a traditional sense, recording bands and such) I've seen were equipped w/ Pro Tools. Because, among other things, they could afford it. I'm pretty sure Paul McCartney's last album wasn't edited in Cubase. 

Out of the mainstream, maybe... But I'd be tempted to bet you that Live rules them all out.

The definition of studio has been stretched beyond recognition in the last 10 years - a laptop w/ Cubase and a pair of cans and you can deliver the score to a documentary or whatnot.

Likewise, the whole DJ scene has loosened our definition. These guys are often self-procalimed "professional" and "international DJs", but this doesn't mean they generate enough money to rig their studio w/ Pro Tools. I bet you half these guys still live in their mom's basement.

Pro these days means exposure. 

So in a sense, the INDUSTRY standard (as in major labels, major recording artists) does indeed rely on PT. 

The various music scenes are a different story.

I'm not here to argue semantics boys.....I'm just quoting "INDUSTRY STATISTICS"  So, you'd need to
call up Mix Magazine, Sound On Sound, Future / Computer Music, etc...and see who made this call....

But I don't think this would be published by some of the leading industry publications without some
"reliable" source of data....

And their definition WAS Major Recording Studios...WORLDWIDE....Not JUST here in the states..

Not garage bands....WORLDWIDE..


and CUBASE with the highest count...

Cubase is FAR more popular in Europe then here....

And again, in the MAJOR studios here in the states, it's HD....not Pro Tools ad hoc...and there is a HUGE difference..TDM
And if you go by HD...then the numbers shift even MORE DRASTICALLY to Cubase favor...as being in more major studios

Rain, you can bet that all those Studios running Pro Tools ALSO have Cubase...

E Pluribus Unum....ad nauseum...

I'm entitled to my opinion, and PROTOOLS AND AVID AND THEIR CUSTOMER SUPPORT, from my personal experience, are a bunch of overhyped garbage...and they are WAY BEHIND THE TIMES and way overhyped by themselves....and on their way "out the door" ....For being the quote unquote INDUSTRY LEADER....


But, use it all you want..I won't....I'd rather shoot myself in the face...thank you very much...
But that's just IMHO...

cclarry

bapu

And are we sure EVERY studio in the ENTIRE world was accounted for?

YES...I PERSONALLY counted EVERY ONE!!!

Well, in my studio SOANR is the industry leader and R & S12 are in second and turd place.


Oh snap!!!! Did I already say that?

bapu


And then The Bapu will drop in with a non-sequitur.

Is the non-sequitur an add on module, or is it included with the upgrade?

but which DAW sounds the best?

when folks listen to my antiquated tripe I want to make sure it's the finest audio quality available