even though snap is set, zooming in shows that snap ISNT actually happening. drives me crazy

soundsubs


Post Script: I cannot repeat enough how much I HATE HATE HATE that the envelopes rest on top of the clips and you have to change views to adjust/see them.

just sayin.

even though snap is set, zooming in shows that snap ISNT actually happening. drives me crazy

chuckebaby

 
Im sorry JB can you please remind me once again why you wrote this first statement ?
was it because you were sticking up for the OP ?

brconflict


I'd like to see:
What if in Console View, you highlight a Track on the console, and in the remaining Track View, you'd see the Track, Automation Lanes, and as many Take Lanes as can be displayed (over-flow would generate a scroll-bar to the right). In other words, the highlighted track would monopolize the Track View portion of the View, like the Loop-Construction window. Obviously, an option to enable or disable. 

I would love to be able to double-click a track in console-view and, instead of Loop construction, (I still have no clue how I personally would use this feature) you'd see the Track-View view of the highlighted Track in the window and no other tracks would be viewable. 

DigitalBoston

John

brconflict


It all does take a lot of getting used to. Personally, I've only used X1 and X2. So, coming from an actual hardware desk and other DAW's, it was a very serious adjustment. I went through the manual (and refernce Guide) and have gone through both offerings of Groove3's X2 Explained and SWA from FastBikerBoy. I think Automation rocks in Sonar now, but it's quite clumsy from where I came, unless you have a good controller. There's not much that can be done about that, though (touch features will need a better GUI). It's still better than the rest, which was one of the things that brought me over to try it out. I have found several issues/bugs with Take Lanes, more so than Automation.

Gain Automation, the one I find the most useful precludes the need for Offset, but doesn't get a "Lane". 

Lanes (when expanded) waste a lot of real-estate compared to Layers, and boy do I get LOST in them at times.

Everyone has a valuable opinion, but I do hope opinions still matter. My gripes are mainly with a few cosmetic bugs and how Lanes could have been better. I think Cakewalk had a good start, but I sincerely hope they overhaul Take Lanes in the next version. I nearly blow a gasket every time I have to navigate through them. My opinion is Take Lanes blow for me. Nobody has been able to convince me otherwise yet.

In the past gain was called trim and really one should avoid changing it. It should be at unity. The only time adjustment to it should be done is when you have a track that is pushing a plugin too much causing it to clip. Other than that the fader is the normal thing to automate for volume changes. 

Take lanes are not automation and that was what I talked about. I have no opinion on them except that I would rather use them then layers. 

Its funny how some find take lanes troublesome and others love them. Clearly something is amiss here. Not with the lanes but with how they are being used.

Though Sonar is versatile in how one can use it, it does have its own way of doing things just like any other DAW. A lot is talked about work flow which Sonar has and its up to us to use it in a way that doesn't go against that work flow.  The developers have a design goal and philosophy that many of us find to our liking. Its why we use it. The changes that occurred with the release of X1 and now X2 were off-putting to some and embraced by others. Many of us saw where CW was going and were very pleased with the new direction. 

It think it would help this forum and the user base to find reason to applaud the new direction instead of finding fault with every post.

I can see a need to improve things and I am all for that. Often times however its not being expressed well or a feature is not understood well enough yet a fault is found.

I am very competent with Sonar. I have been for many years. None the less I am always learning things or refreshing my memory on things. Its a constant study. When I come here I often know the answer to a question for me but find it difficult to put it into words for the questioner.

Again I believe that we never know it all and that we need to revisit ideas we learned in order to stay current and fresh.

Believe me when I say this I get far more out of this forum than I put in. Its a place for us to learn. I have taken full advantage of that and will never stop doing that.

I hope that we all view this place as a place to learn and exchange ideas. But not so much a place for finding fault. When a bug is identified its a valuable service that I fully support. When user error is the cause of the problem let us not also submit our own pet peeve to add nothing but confusion and misinformation.   

We all can be better in the quality of our posts. It is the only thing we really have control over. 

That is all I have to say. I hope its viewed in the spirit it was written. 

weather is a bug or whatever lanes locked together is just useless. and the X1 setup was by far the best lanes version to date. now if they put x1 set up with the new features then we can say its fine, but saying its never been better is just not true. but instead of a good debate and a focused aprotch we get fanboyism. thats a way worse thread read. than someone picking out a flaw and starting a debate,its a sonar trend i know, but lets be real here. they need to change the lane set up
be more versital, not more limited in view of screen space.and anyone with 3 monitors would like to see it all undockable. thats the kind of versitality we want, not a step back like lanes are now. sorry but its the point of 20 threads every week followed buy 3 posts saying there crazy for there effort on fixing this cosmetic issues