X2a Colors

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January 04, 13 5:17 AM (permalink)

X2a Colors

Does anybody else find it disturbing that many of the color options in X2 just don't work?
Something about this irks me, it seems so unfinished.
 
Why not just get rid of the options if they don't really do anything?  For some reason I find that less objectionable than having settings that do nothing...
 
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    Bristol_Jonesey
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    Re:X2a Colors January 04, 13 6:40 AM (permalink)
    You get used to it after a while.

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    Re:X2a Colors January 04, 13 6:58 AM (permalink)
    I've noticed that some (or could be most) of them require a restart of Sonar to take effect though they don't show the sign *. Major Rules, Beat Rules, etc.
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    Re:X2a Colors January 04, 13 7:49 AM (permalink)
    Eh...  Are you new here?


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    Re:X2a Colors January 04, 13 8:38 AM (permalink)
    The way the new Skylight interface works does not allow customization of the colors. Someone (Bapu) has come up with a utility that will add some different colors, but you can't tailor the colors yourself. 

    Sorry, I meant Panu. 
    post edited by daveny5 - January 04, 13 5:14 PM

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    Re:X2a Colors January 04, 13 9:34 AM (permalink)
    daveny5


    The way the new Skylight interface works does not allow customization of the colors. Someone (Bapu) has come up with a utility that will add some different colors, but you can't tailor the colors yourself. 


    Actually, I thinks Panu came up with the utility.


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    Re:X2a Colors January 04, 13 9:53 AM (permalink)

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    Re:X2a Colors January 04, 13 1:16 PM (permalink)
    These colors do not work in X2a but are listed in SONAR preferences:

    ' ColorsBlacklist.txt
    ' Version: 1.0
    ' Date: 10/19/2012
    ' Author: Panu Pentikäinen
    '
    Dialog Box Banner Text
    Dialog Box Banner Background
    Console View Blank Background
    Enable/Disable Toggles
    Large Transport Background
    Large Transport Labels
    Large Transport LCD Text
    Track View Button Outline
    Arpeggiator Button
    Arpeggiator Gradient
    Audio Clip Background
    Track View Clips Pane Background
    Track View Strip Background
    Track View Control Background
    Track View Bus Input Pan Control
    Track View Disabled Control Text
    Track View Instrument Track Name Background
    Track View Slider Background
    Master Control Bar Background
    Console EQ Plot Grid
    Console EQ Plot Graph
    Console View Slider Background
    Console View Drop-down Controls
    Console FX Bin Text
    Console View Slider
    Console View Strip Background
    Track Inspector Background
    Toolbar Static Text *
    Toolbar LCD Text *
    Toolbar LCD Background *
    Toolbar Background - In Views *}
    Console Segmented VU Tick Marks
    Peak Marker (< 0dB)
    Peak Marker (>= 0dB)
    Peak Marker Text
    Track View Header Peak Tex
    '
    ' The following MIDI Tracks 1 - 10 items are hidden in SONAR X2 and newer only.
    '
    MIDI Tracks 1, 11, 21... Background
    MIDI Tracks 2, 12, 22... Background
    MIDI Tracks 3, 13, 23... Background
    MIDI Tracks 4, 14, 24... Background
    MIDI Tracks 5, 15, 25... Background
    MIDI Tracks 6, 16, 26... Background
    MIDI Tracks 7, 17, 27... Background
    MIDI Tracks 8, 18, 28... Background
    MIDI Tracks 9, 19, 29... Background
    MIDI Tracks 10, 20, 30... Background
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    Re:X2a Colors January 04, 13 1:24 PM (permalink)
    Not being able to change the color of the Active Track in the Track View is the one that bothers me. It is very difficult in a busy mix to differentiate between shades of gray. Drives me nuts! I really want the ability to change this!

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    Re:X2a Colors January 04, 13 1:28 PM (permalink)
    You can use Duckbar to customize active track control pane background. Duckbar main menu | Settings | Track View. Right click active track bitmap to edit it.
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    Re:X2a Colors January 04, 13 1:39 PM (permalink)
    Does anyone have a definitive list of what we can change in X2a without an exterior utility? That said, duckbar is working well here.

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    Re:X2a Colors January 04, 13 1:51 PM (permalink)
    Screen capture of Track View Options
    Active track background is a PNG image, not a solid color.
    Set image editor in Duckbar preferences (File | Personalization | Paths). Any image editor that supports transparent PNG images will go (for example GIMP (free), Photoshop Elements (budget) and Photoshop CS6 (overkill). Windows Paint don't do the work.
    If editing is too complicated, use some of the ready baked mods. Duckbar main menu | Customize | Mod Patcher. Dark Side Theme is the most popular and recommended mod to start with.
    After that you can tweak colors further by EXE Colors. If you have 64 bit X2a Producer, there are 333 new colors available for tweaking. If that's not enough, you can edit over 600 Skylight graphics elements and make SONAR look perfect to your taste. 
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    Re:X2a Colors January 04, 13 1:54 PM (permalink)
    Resonant Order


    Does anyone have a definitive list of what we can change in X2a without an exterior utility? That said, duckbar is working well here.
    Colors: all the other colors except the ones in the list above can be changed in SONAR preferences.
    Bitmaps: only some FX Chain bitmaps can be customized. X1 and X2 Skylight bitmaps are not available for customizing in SONAR.
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    Re:X2a Colors January 04, 13 2:22 PM (permalink)
    panup


    You can use Duckbar to customize active track control pane background. Duckbar main menu | Settings | Track View. Right click active track bitmap to edit it.

    Panu, once again you have made my life easier! Duckbar rocks! Thanks for everything you do!

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    Re:X2a Colors January 04, 13 2:23 PM (permalink)
    Welcome back jsg 


    Even if they don't give us colors, I wish they could give us some cool skins like Samplitude or Digital Performer offer their customers.

     
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    Re:X2a Colors January 04, 13 3:28 PM (permalink)
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    Welcome back jsg 


    Even if they don't give us colors, I wish they could give us some cool skins like Samplitude or Digital Performer offer their customers.

    Thanks, but I am not sure I am really back.  I'm testing X2a on my office computer, I don't put programs my DAW unless I am reasonably confident I will use that program.  Leaving the color options that are not really options is so amateurish. Who made that decision?
     
    Digital Performer for Windows will be out by the end of this month, possibly sooner and I am very excited about it.  Talk about color implementation, it looks absolutely marvelous!  I am having a colleague go over it with me at his studio.  Having been with Sonar for 17 years, I am not exactly one who flirts around with software unless I am serious about using it.  So I am not installing X2 on my DAW until I have a chance to work with DP for a few weeks.  Then I will decide to go with DP, load X2 or stay with Sonar 7.0.2. 
     
    I really don't know what's is wrong with Cakewalk's implementation.  Cakewalk is a mass of contraditions, on the one hand Sonar led the way to 64-bit, has some great MIDI implementation and its audio has always been impressive.   And yet, I've never used a program that is touted as professional (i.e. photoshop, sibelius, sound forge, you know, top programs) that is so full of such obvious bugs.  All software has bugs, but some software takes a lot of work to find them.  Not Sonar, the bugs become apparent very quickly.  And some things like this really bizarre "improvement:  In staff view,  after selecting a group of notes we could always just right click on the mouse and get the process menu. Now, in X2, you have to press CTRL AND right-click! What genius thought of that? Why would they deliberately add a keystroke for no gain whatsover? Another bug? Weird design? Who knows? 
       
    If Cakewalk becomes serious, they very well may once again become a maker of DAW software that appeals to film composers and orchestral composers.  There are many things to like about X2, but it still feels like (less so than X1) X2a is software that was rushed out the door before it really made sense.  
     
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