X2a Freezes Momentarily When Inserting Any Synth

Can you try to move the mouse to the taskbar (so the taskbar comes up.. assuming you have it set to auto hide) and see if the Sonar unfreeze almost immediately ?
 
In some situation, this may help my system to respond faster.. but this is not a solution.

Do you notice too that when this is happening Sonar shows "Processing Tracks" progress bar in the control bar?
 
 
I just noticed this the other day.

This freeze never happened in X1 or X2, only since the X2a patch.

I think we're all having a similar experience ...
 
CJ... it is beyond me to surmise anything... it doesn't have to do with the samples loading ...that I know of ...but it's a darn good guess. Perhaps the software is now processing things differently as of X2a
 
Daylaa ... I encounter this situation when inserting soft synths only...
 
Shambler ...YES! it acts as if it's mixing tracks
 
rbecker: we have similar systems as reported in our sigs ...although I'm sure it isn't unique to our system setup, that information could lead to a path of resolution...

I just moved from X2 Studio to X2 Producer. The problem seems to be gone.

musec03
rbecker: That is indeed interesting!
Which updates were they?
...and I wonder what they may have addressed relative to a program perfoming something like a mix down every time a soft synth is inserted into a project....
 
Thanks!!!

I am not sure how to answer as to "What updates...", but I downloaded Producer from Cakewalk just a couple days ago, so I assume it is the latest and greatest, as opposed to a disk that was sitting on a shelf somewhere for several months.

Howdy ...the windows updates you mentioned ...were they the latest from MS?

rbecker
...I downloaded Producer from Cakewalk just a couple days ago, so I assume it is the latest and greatest, as opposed to a disk that was sitting on a shelf somewhere for several months.

 
The download does not include the X2a update, which needs to be installed afterwards.

Thanks all for the follow up.  I am going to try a couple of things and call Support if no result.  Will let you know if I find anything.
PS...I have all the latest Windows updates so I dont think that is it.
John

Are you inserting the soft synth while the transport is active i.e. playing?

I GOT IT!!! 
 
The delay occurs when you add an Instrument Track or a MIDI and/or Audio track or any of the options in the Insert-Softsynth dialog. If you want to get rid of that delay, don't have it insert any tracks when you insert a softsynth.
 
Still doesn't explain why some of you are getting a white screen, but that could just be the time it takes your computer to process inserting the new tracks. Try just inserting some tracks and see if you get the same effect. 

Whitescreen normally means the ui is waiting for a response from something

Weird symptoms. My gut feeling is this doesn't have anything to do with actually inserting a synth but something stealing away focus from the application and preventing the UI from running.


Can you try a few tests:
 
- Try inserting a small synth like one of the P5 synths or TTS1 and see if you see the same lag.
- Try picking insert synth and then immediately cancelling from the dialog without actually inserting a synth. Do you still see this lag?
 
When you get the lag try moving the cursor to the taskbar or clicking on a different app window and then click back to SONAR. Does this bring the UI back to life?

THANKS EVERYBODY!!!!! ....I have called in a problem report in case it is available to Cakewalk personnel for review....
 
Noel ...I"m glad you stopped by ...that is a good sign things will pick up on this issue as more report the same circumstance...
...a recurring statement is "it began after installing X2a" ...which is my situation
 
If we could get Jim Roseberry in on this conversation it may help to highlight technical aspects I am unable to explain...
Jim consulted with me in this matter ...we spent quite a lot of time disabling many possible problems in software ...drivers, etc
Jim's tech fees are very reasonable and my rig does run more smoothly...
 
...daveny5 ...Thanks for the helpful interest. my rating for this computer is 5.9 ...that's based on the primary data disk transfer rate ...the lowest of all ratings ...the rest are all over 7.3 & go up to 7.8
 
I am scheduling a down time to have this computer "cleaned" by a tech. The guy is keyed into A/V machines, so he's prepared to hash out any "problems" after disabling the windows services he knows to be unnecessary.

*** Noel or anyone ...isn't there a Cakewalk bulletin describing (all) Windows services one can disable to improve SONAR"s performance?
 
IN SUMMARY ...I'm as sure as I can be this is a software / programming issue associated with a part of X2a as it works with all the MS updates we're confronted with in Win7 & Win8. I never leave out "operator error" but in this case ... a reputable, knowledgeable individual guided me through a comprehensive exam of my hardware and software ...but rates, drivers, etc...  

there are reports of the problem occurring after installation of X2a and there are reports of it "going away" after MS Windows "latest updates"
...it may be thin but one deduction could relate these two... NOTE ...I am not qualified to make a definitive statement to that effect...

Again ...Thanks Everyone                        

I read the post about windows update fixing the lag problem, so I decided to give it a test. After my last round of updates, something was borked, and I ended up rolling back. Decided to give it a try today, and all the windows updates installed smoothly with no problems.
 
I tested X2 with Omnisphere since that's the synth that gives me the most trouble. It can take anywhere from 10 seconds to a couple of minutes to load depending on how large the samples are with a particular patch. I will usually get the freezing UI, white screen, and it was a 50/50 chance that the synth would load or X2 would just freeze, and changing patches was just as problematic. It was one of the main issues that had me seeking out other hosts. In Reaper, Omnisphere would load immediately, never crashed, and switching the patches wasn't a problem. It behaved like I expected it to.
 
I've been testing/playing with X2 all morning after the updates, and now X2 is just as snappy as Reaper. It's really a night/day difference. What it changed I have no idea, but a definite improvement that builds my trust in the X series. Omnisphere now loads immediately without freezing, and so do all the patches. I also seem to have lost the glitches in the media browser where I'd have to click on a wave several times to get it to play. Fluid and plays back perfectly. Some of my earlier problems disappeared when I upgraded my Lynx drivers, and now the windows updates seem to have taken care of the rest. Makes me think that there was some kind of error that was preventing all my hardware from communicating with the software properly.
 
If this is the experience others have had since the start, no wonder this forum is so divided.