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2013/11/13 21:57:04 (permalink)

X3 Producer, FW-1884, audio is good when using 96/24 but midi distorts

X3 Producer, FW-1884,  audio is good when using 96/24 but midi distorts any suggestions ?
midi plays undistorted only in 48/24 mode. I run Windows 7, ASIO driver.
The only solution I thought of is to work up my midi in this configuration, convert to audio,
export and reimport in a new project in 96/24 mode unless someone has a solution.
 
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    Re: X3 Producer, FW-1884, audio is good when using 96/24 but midi distorts 2013/11/13 22:03:02 (permalink)
    I would suggest looking into preferences->midi:playback and recording. Make sure you have the midi buffer size set to at least 500 milliseconds - that seems to be the consensus around here to avoid midi dropouts. Since your audio's working good (glad to hear that), you should be good to go.
     

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    Re: X3 Producer, FW-1884, audio is good when using 96/24 but midi distorts 2013/11/13 22:08:32 (permalink)
    Hi Boibhava
     
    Off to bed now but this may help for further reading in the meantime...
    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=FW-1884+distorts+cakewalk+site:forum.cakewalk.com&espv=210&es_sm=93&biw=1680&bih=949#es_sm=93&espv=210&q=FW-1884+distort+sonar+site%3Aforum.cakewalk.com
     
    ... and what SuperG said...

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    @48/24 & 128 buffers latency is 367 with offset of 38.

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    Re: X3 Producer, FW-1884, audio is good when using 96/24 but midi distorts 2013/11/13 22:23:15 (permalink)
    thanks, I will try some of those suggestions
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    Re: X3 Producer, FW-1884, audio is good when using 96/24 but midi distorts 2013/11/13 22:58:20 (permalink)
    I was looking for the like button...

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    Re: X3 Producer, FW-1884, audio is good when using 96/24 but midi distorts 2013/11/13 23:45:46 (permalink)
    well I tried the 500 milliseconds but that did not fix the problem, and found no equivalent problem on
    the links that cakealexs gave me either. I guess I will call Tascam tomorrow and see if they have any
    input
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    Re: X3 Producer, FW-1884, audio is good when using 96/24 but midi distorts 2013/11/14 00:21:25 (permalink)
    Not sure I understand MIDI distorting but I guess you mean when you process MIDI through a plugin synth then the sound is distorted. Though that makes your first statement a bit confusing because you say that 96/24 sounds good but MIDI distorts. Is this audio that you've recorded before at 97/24 that you then play along with MIDI through a plugin and then that sound is distorted?

    Sounds more like latency is your issue. Try upping your buffers. Did it used to work and now not or is this a long standing problem. Or what.

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    Re: X3 Producer, FW-1884, audio is good when using 96/24 but midi distorts 2013/11/14 00:41:50 (permalink)
    Yes Mudgel, its when I am playing a midi project that I then assign to Cakewalk-TTS1 for example.
    I just did some more experimenting and found that it is only the Direct X soft synth plug ins that sound
    distorted, the VST ones are ok. So I wonder how to fix that?
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    Re: X3 Producer, FW-1884, audio is good when using 96/24 but midi distorts 2013/11/14 00:57:28 (permalink)
    I'm not sure where to go from here.

    Hang on a bit, I'm sure that others with greater expertise will come along over the next little while and help you out. You could put a call into Cakewalk tech support. They're a very helpful bunch of people.

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    Re: X3 Producer, FW-1884, audio is good when using 96/24 but midi distorts 2013/11/14 08:57:40 (permalink)
    TTS1 doest work with 96/24. If i remember it only works until 48/24

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    Re: X3 Producer, FW-1884, audio is good when using 96/24 but midi distorts 2013/11/14 09:32:49 (permalink)
    To run TTS-1 at high sample rates the TTS-1 "Light Load Mode" must be enabled.
    On the TTS-1 UI click the SYSTEM button,
    On the TTS-1 SYSTEM SETTINGS dialog click the OPTION button,
    On the TTS-1 OPTIONS dialog click the Options tab and check the "Light Load Mode"
     
    Note: TTS-1 does not support 88.2 but I believe it will run at 96 Light Load Mode enabled.
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    Re: X3 Producer, FW-1884, audio is good when using 96/24 but midi distorts 2013/11/14 09:36:59 (permalink)
    or use a different synth...

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    Re: X3 Producer, FW-1884, audio is good when using 96/24 but midi distorts 2013/11/14 09:46:58 (permalink)
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    Yes Mudgel, its when I am playing a midi project that I then assign to Cakewalk-TTS1 for example.
    I just did some more experimenting and found that it is only the Direct X soft synth plug ins that sound
    distorted, the VST ones are ok. So I wonder how to fix that?




     
    What happens when you assign a different synth (to replace the TTS-1)?
    It should sound fine.
    If audio playback is clean... synth playback should also be clean.
    For the audio interface, it's all "audio"... 

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    Re: X3 Producer, FW-1884, audio is good when using 96/24 but midi distorts 2013/11/14 13:52:48 (permalink)
    Thanks SCook. Clicking on the light load setting seems to have worked. I was also having the same problem with another Direct X one which was the Roland Groove Synth, so I will look for something similar in that one.
    By the way, I found this link where Scott Garigus makes the same suggestion as you have but at the end says he has not tested whether it plays at the same quality. To my ears it does, but maybe he has better ones..

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    Re: X3 Producer, FW-1884, audio is good when using 96/24 but midi distorts 2013/11/14 14:31:33 (permalink)
    There is not an equivalent option to "Light Load Mode" for GrooveSynth. While the documentation claims it supports 96KHz, there have been other unresolved reports of failure at that sample rate.
     
    The TTS-1 "Light Load Mode" setting is per instance, per session. Each time a project is opened each instance of TTS-1 must have the "Light Load Mode" set.
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    Re: X3 Producer, FW-1884, audio is good when using 96/24 but midi distorts 2013/11/14 17:27:11 (permalink)

    Yes I noticed that I have to reset it everytime I open a project. That should be fixed in an upgrade
    I hope. As for the Groove Synth, oh well, I'll just use another one I guess.
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