bapu
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X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
I started out with Pro Audio 4 and I have since upgraded/purchased PA5,6,7,8,9,SONAR XL, SONAR 3,4,5,6,7,8,8.5,X1 and X2.
(note, somehow I skipped SONAR 2).
Fortunately, I was really only charged $149 for X3.
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/05 22:29:32
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2013/10/05 22:38:47
I think, just for the fun of it, you should go back to Pro Audio 4.
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/05 22:31:18
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like 100 a year ..cool ...some payed that for nuendo .....once !
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/05 22:34:51
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Maybe I'm stupid, but I can't work out what your point is.
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/05 22:35:27
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how much have you spent on 2" tape? phew...
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bapu
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/05 22:38:28
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how much have you spent on 2" tape? phew...
I never had 2" tape. I only ever owned a TASCAM 80-8 (8 tracks on 1/2 tape). 
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/05 22:58:33
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The first step is admitting you have the addiction...
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/05 23:02:47
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I got $ 4,000+ into my Tascam DA-88, so are you bragging or complaining ??
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/05 23:27:45
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bapu
I started out with Pro Audio 4 and I have since upgraded/purchased PA5,6,7,8,9,SONAR XL, SONAR 3,4,5,6,7,8,8.5,X1 and X2.
(note, somehow I skipped SONAR 2).
Fortunately, I was really only charged $149 for X3.
I think your estimate is low. That is only an average of $80 per purchase/upgrade. Might make sense if in the early days the upgrades were very inexpensive. But really, how much other software did you purchase to go with Sonar? I mean, where were you going to plugin all those plugins into if not Cakewalk software? That is rhetorical, I really don't want to know where you were going to plug those in to :-)
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/05 23:51:21
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My first sequencer was Hybrid Arts running on an Atari 130 XE.
I then moved to the Atari 1040 ST. Whew,,, I thought that was the address to be, since the Atari had built in MIDI ports. I synced it to a Tascam open reel four track. I had a DX-7, a TX81z, a Roland D110, an Ensoniq Mirage and a Roland 707 drum machine. I think that system set me back something like $6,000.
I moved to Cakewalk at Pro Audio 8.
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/05 23:56:56
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All that software was useless - how much for computers?
But Cakewalk thanks you. As should every SONAR user since you've done a yeoman job keeping the price lower for everyone who buys.
Thanks, bapu.
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 00:33:18
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bapu
mixmkr
how much have you spent on 2" tape? phew...
I never had 2" tape. I only ever owned a TASCAM 80-8 (8 tracks on 1/2 tape).
$1200 is what I paid for my 3340 4-track tape recorder. Times have definitely changed!
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 00:46:42
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I too had a 3340 4 track ($1200). Then bought a Fostex B16 1/2 inch ($5000)....and an Otari MX5050 1/4 inch 2 track mixdown machine ($1800)...A Mackie 32x8 console ($4500).....then and Alesis black face ADAT ($2500) + BRC ($1500)....a Tascam D30 DAT recorder ($1200)....then an Alesis HD24 ($1600), which I still use.....and the list goes on and on....
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 00:53:25
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Yes, I think we all have something similar to guitar players with GAS (guitar acquisition syndrome). Maybe SAS (Sonar Acquisition Syndrome). Jajaja
Anyway, I might spend more in burgers and and junk food than into this wonderful software!
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 01:04:55
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bapu
I started out with Pro Audio 4 and I have since upgraded/purchased PA5,6,7,8,9,SONAR XL, SONAR 3,4,5,6,7,8,8.5,X1 and X2.
(note, somehow I skipped SONAR 2).
Fortunately, I was really only charged $149 for X3.
But please tell us how much you earn using Sonar softs! 
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 01:19:09
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About 10 years ago I added up how much I had invested in my home studio and instruments and it was around $25,000. I have added a little more since then but not much.
I wish Sonar X3 would have been available 20 years ago, it would have saved me a fortune.
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 01:50:26
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bapu
I started out with Pro Audio 4 and I have since upgraded/purchased PA5,6,7,8,9,SONAR XL, SONAR 3,4,5,6,7,8,8.5,X1 and X2.
(note, somehow I skipped SONAR 2).
Fortunately, I was really only charged $149 for X3.
But please tell us how much you earn using Sonar softs!
$zero.zerozero I'm a hobbyist.
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 02:12:19
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I'm pretty sure XL was Sonar 2.
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 03:20:12
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Anderton
$1200 is what I paid for my 3340 4-track tape recorder. Times have definitely changed!
That's great Craig - but did you have to spend my money as well? Your "Electronic projects for musicians" probably was a large part of the reason I went this route in the mid-late seventies. If it wasn't for that book I would probably have been one of those guys that plays in a couple of bands in their youth and more or less forgets about it. And then I had to make the addiction worse with "Home recording for musicians" that pushed me into buying a Tascam Portastudio, back then it was definitely well above $1000 here in Sweden. First software sequencer Voyetra Sequencer+, then over to TTS Cakewalk 2.0 and stayed with them ever since. A few version gaps when family and work was taking too much space.
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 05:07:38
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I got that "home recording for musicians" too. I remember that while reading it I was shocked to find out that we were doing most of the stuff right.
Ran cakewalk sequencer on a 286 with 14" monochrome monitor. It controlled Roland MT32 synth and Yamaha DX7, chasing a sync track on the tape.
The reason I got Cakewalk was that Voyetra wouldn't work with the hardware. I've been through many upgrades. Its always been fun for me. The money spent on the studio saved me from wicked wimmin and drugs. ;)
I still have my Tascam 32 and 38 matched tape machines, along with a 16 channel mixer and an 8 channel sub-mixer. All built in to a beautiful 10 foot long angled recording desk.
When I went digital (currently on my 6th computer and I/O upgrade) I put a big sheet of gold plexi over the whole desk, and the new control surfaces, keyboards, etc. sit on that.
You can still see the old stuff through the crinkly plexi, thus preserving the mojo.
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 05:14:40
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My first sequencer was Micro-rhythm on the Commodore 64 :D I think I paid £1.99 for it back in the day.
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 05:31:10
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Anderton $1200 is what I paid for my 3340 4-track tape recorder. Times have definitely changed!
That's great Craig - but did you have to spend my money as well? Your "Electronic projects for musicians" probably was a large part of the reason I went this route in the mid-late seventies. If it wasn't for that book I would probably have been one of those guys that plays in a couple of bands in their youth and more or less forgets about it. And then I had to make the addiction worse with "Home recording for musicians" that pushed me into buying a Tascam Portastudio, back then it was definitely well above $1000 here in Sweden. First software sequencer Voyetra Sequencer+, then over to TTS Cakewalk 2.0 and stayed with them ever since. A few version gaps when family and work was taking too much space.
Voyetra! Yes! I used that as a 12 year old kid (I think), completely computer based with no midi keyboard. Or evn a mouse, for that matter. I was so fascinated I could enter notes and the computer would play them perfectly every time. Come to think of it, it must have been an illegal copy our computer guy installed, haha :) I think I got to a Windows version of Cakewalk shortly after, 3 maybe? Another crack, probably, I didn't buy it at least. Switched to Mac for a few years and bought Logic... 5 through 7 I think. But was excited to get back to Cakewalk at S6 PE. I never went back to Mac privately, though other places I've worked at are usually all Mac. Ran a Hackintosh for a while for compatibility. But I just go too attached to the Cakewalk workflow. I couldn't really get used to the new X way and the loss of features at first, but X3 seems to really have put it back on track for me.
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beltrom
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 10:46:39
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Lazyboy
Ran cakewalk sequencer on a 286 with 14" monochrome monitor. It controlled Roland MT32 synth and Yamaha DX7, chasing a sync track on the tape.
I also had the MT32 - I remember being absolutely astonished and thinking "How do they fit 8 synths and drums into this?" when I got it. Had the Yamaha FB01 (great little box for dx piano and bass) and Rolands Alpha Juno 2. Tried FSK syncing for a while but never really liked it so I worked around the limitations instead. Lazyboy
I still have my Tascam 32 and 38 matched tape machines, along with a 16 channel mixer and an 8 channel sub-mixer. All built in to a beautiful 10 foot long angled recording desk. When I went digital (currently on my 6th computer and I/O upgrade) I put a big sheet of gold plexi over the whole desk, and the new control surfaces, keyboards, etc. sit on that. You can still see the old stuff through the crinkly plexi, thus preserving the mojo.
That's a great idea! My own old stuff is spread around the room, but I kind of have a pre midi corner, including the portastudio so it won't get lonely.
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 10:49:01
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bapu
I started out with Pro Audio 4 and I have since upgraded/purchased PA5,6,7,8,9,SONAR XL, SONAR 3,4,5,6,7,8,8.5,X1 and X2.
(note, somehow I skipped SONAR 2).
Fortunately, I was really only charged $149 for X3.
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 10:52:46
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2013/10/06 11:21:08
bapu
I started out with Pro Audio 4 and I have since upgraded/purchased PA5,6,7,8,9,SONAR XL, SONAR 3,4,5,6,7,8,8.5,X1 and X2.
(note, somehow I skipped SONAR 2).
Fortunately, I was really only charged $149 for X3.
Take the cost you paid from Pro Audio 4 to X3 and then divide that amount by the number of years/months you had Sonar software. The calculation will give you the average yearly/monthly cost you paid during those years that you were making music with the software you choose to buy. You may be surprised by how relatively low the amount actually is.
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 10:54:41
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My first sequencer was Micro-rhythm on the Commodore 64 :D I think I paid £1.99 for it back in the day.
Hehe, nostalgic trip this thread. That reminded me that I actually built a CV/gate interface from instructions in a magazine (Radio electronics and for Sinclair spectrum if my memory isn't messed up). I had to adapt the design to my Spectravideo 328 and code the program myself, but managed to run my Monopoly on it.
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 10:59:44
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Voyetra! Yes! I used that as a 12 year old kid (I think), completely computer based with no midi keyboard.
We have a saying in Sweden that roughly translated goes: "if you want it bent well you should bend it early" :) A trip down memory lane maybe? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_p4IgBD5oE
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 11:07:17
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Actually mine was blue and white, like this one; http://youtu.be/go98Di9FJI0Looks like it's the same program though! Good times! I remember thinking for a long time it was the same company/product as Cakewalk, as that was th only sequencer I knew :)
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 11:12:28
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Heh - yeah Tascam/Cakewalk/Gibson is nice enough to show you your purchase history. I just make sure my wife isn't around when I log into the CW store. 
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Re: X3 Producer actually cost me well over $1200 (estimated)
2013/10/06 11:24:51
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Before going ITP I too used SPG sync'd to my Alesis BRC which drove my 3 black face ADATs. This was my last console/desk 
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