X3 Studio SessionDrummer woes and fix

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2015/08/03 20:45:06 (permalink)

X3 Studio SessionDrummer woes and fix

I had spent endless hours trying to resolve the issue of SessionDrummer not appearing in X3 studio. None of the advice I found here and elsewhere helped.
I then noticed in Sonar X3 > Edit > Preferences > File > VST Settings a checkbox captioned "Hide Related VST2 Plugins". The box seems checked by default. 
 
I unchecked it and SessionDrummer appeared!?
 
I should emphasise that this is on a clean install of X3, i.e. no Cakewalk software had previously been installed on this Win8.1 OS.
 
My experience would therefore suggest that SessionDrummer is identified as a VST2 plugin. 
 
It would have been nice if this was noticeably stated somewhere. It would certainly have saved a few hours I'm never going to get back.
 
Anyway, I hope this helps someone.
 
 
 
 

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    scook
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    Re: X3 Studio SessionDrummer woes and fix 2015/08/03 20:53:15 (permalink)
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    Re: X3 Studio SessionDrummer woes and fix 2015/08/03 20:58:44 (permalink)
    Thanks, but as I wrote, I had exhausted all that and more. My post was to highlight the fix that worked for me and is not mentioned anywhere else AFAIK.
     
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    Re: X3 Studio SessionDrummer woes and fix 2015/08/03 21:08:03 (permalink)
    I suspect it is not mentioned because the setting you changed is a VST3 migration setting. The VST3 migration settings affect how Cakewalk handles VST2 plug-ins when a VST3 plug-in replacement is available. Session Drummer is VST2 only.
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    Re: X3 Studio SessionDrummer woes and fix 2015/08/03 21:09:07 (permalink)
    How can it be a "migration" when it is a clean install?
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    scook
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    Re: X3 Studio SessionDrummer woes and fix 2015/08/03 21:15:02 (permalink)
    Because the migration settings have nothing to do with installation but how SONAR migrates projects containing VST2 plug-ins to their VST3 counterparts.
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    Re: X3 Studio SessionDrummer woes and fix 2015/08/03 21:16:47 (permalink)
    ?? Now I am totally confused. 
     
    Anyway, it's working.
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    Re: X3 Studio SessionDrummer woes and fix 2015/08/03 21:18:08 (permalink)
    Here is a blog explaining the settings http://blog.cakewalk.com/...r-x3-vst-enhancements/
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    Re: X3 Studio SessionDrummer woes and fix 2015/08/03 21:22:40 (permalink)
    OK, it says
     
    Hide Related VST2 Plug-ins.
    If you have both VST2 and VST3 versions of a plug-in, you can instruct SONAR to automatically hide any redundant VST2 plug-ins from SONAR’s plug-in menus.
     
    I bought Sonar X3. How in the name of the gods am i expected to know that the bundled sessiondrummer is  a "redundant VST2 plug-in"?
     
     
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    Re: X3 Studio SessionDrummer woes and fix 2015/08/03 21:24:04 (permalink)
    It is not redundant. Session Drummer is a VST2 plug-in. There is no VST3 version.
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    Re: X3 Studio SessionDrummer woes and fix 2015/08/03 21:43:17 (permalink)
    scook
    It is not redundant. Session Drummer is a VST2 plug-in. There is no VST3 version.



    Thanks. I understand that now. Nevertheless, and judging by the number of posts expressing frustration about SessionDrummer not working, maybe the default setting for "Hide Related VST2 Plug-ins" should be "unchecked". It would certainly save a lot of time.
     
    Cheers
     
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    Re: X3 Studio SessionDrummer woes and fix 2015/08/03 21:49:34 (permalink)
    Have you tried enabling the option after seeing Session Drummer in plug-in list?
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    Re: X3 Studio SessionDrummer woes and fix 2015/08/03 21:52:19 (permalink)
    scook
    Have you tried enabling the option after seeing Session Drummer in plug-in list?


    Yes. Gives the missing plugin message when I try to "Insert > Soft Synth > SessionDrummer.
     
     
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    Re: X3 Studio SessionDrummer woes and fix 2015/08/03 22:00:45 (permalink)
    That is a first. I would try a VST reset.
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    Re: X3 Studio SessionDrummer woes and fix 2015/08/03 22:02:22 (permalink)
    scook
    That is a first. I would try a VST reset.



    Can't hurt to do a VST reset and rescan, either.

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    Re: X3 Studio SessionDrummer woes and fix 2015/08/03 22:11:00 (permalink)
    Anderton
    Can't hurt to do a VST reset and rescan, either.


    OK, got it. I didn't do a rescan when I responded to Scook previously.
    1. did a rescan for failed plugins with "Hide Related VST2 Plug-ins" OFF,
    2. Turned "Hide Related VST2 Plug-ins" ON.
    SessionDrummer now appears in the Soft Synth list.
     
    Thanks
     
     
     
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