jmasno5
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X-3c
Honestly, how long should I hold off buying X3 before all the bugs are out? It hasn't been out that long and I blinked and "c" is out. I missed "b" completely.
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jscomposer
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Depends on your version of a "bug". If you bought a DAW based on that as your purchasing decision, you would never own one LOL! I'm sure it's SOLID, as I have not heard about any show-stopping issues. The only reason I'm holding out is because I want to see what video improvements are implemented in X3d.
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mettelus
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+1! Overall X3 is very stable, so if you have a specific concern with something, it might be better to shout that out and get a response to it. Many of the issues noted are not "show stoppers" and have workarounds to them. Some may also be dependent on your OS, plugins, etc. Take a bit to look at the forum posts and see what applies to you or not and then can ask more detail on things that concern you.
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cconde
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Nothing is perfect, but I think X3 is working very close to what it is intended to be. Just check that you avoid using hardware or plugs that are known to generate problems because not every problem is CW's fault. Enjoy making music with this outstanding software!
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jb101
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X3 is working very well here. Solid and feature packed.
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Anderton
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Agreed. I've installed X3c on a desktop and laptop, both very different, and it has provided stellar performance.
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I'm running X3c on a win 7x64 laptop with an i7 CPU and 8gig of ram and also on my studio production PC with an i7 3930 k running win 8.1 x64 with 32 gig RAM.
It runs well on both machines. There are a few VST 3 issues to work and it's caused quite a few crashes to the desktop but they're known issues and that's between Cakewalk and various vendors to work out. It's 95% there for me. It's certainly the best of all Sonar releases that I've encountered and I came into Sonar at 3 Producer Edition. I find it stable and very smooth on both machines. The C update has caused a few problems for some pele so I would install and only do the B update. If every things fine then don't do the C update or even better, after installation and each patch update set a Windows restore point and you will be able to roll back to any previous state you choose.
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Splat
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Waiting till end of year and for the right price, would rather finish off X2 projects with X2 and let you guys finish the X3 debugging for me, which is the joy of late adoption :)
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jmasno5
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Thanks for all of the responses. Right now I'm running X2d. It still has some bugs that I have learned to live with. I guess the updates came so fast on X3 I wondered if they rolled it out too soon. I think I will still wait until the end of the year but is sounds like many are satisfied with X3. The color coding is long overdue. That in itself would be a welcomed site.
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fooman
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I think audio software is one of those apps that are bound to have bugs for one user or another simply because it depends so much on the hardware used (that changes/updates/upgrades every two months or so), OS, and specs of the computer. As well as the learning curve to a new user of setting things up, which leads to a lot of user-error which Cakewalk must sort through.
I am a web developer, and we have to test a lot on a lot of different platforms... but man Cakewalk is on another level with the degree of testing they have to do. This is why I'm not surprised or upset that my beloved UAD is not officially supporting every single DAW out there.
Having said all that, I think the fact that we are on X3c is great. It should commitment to this product by the guys at Cakewalk. They didn't put it out and ignore these forums. They have taken our bug reports and made use out of them. There is nothing to be upset about IMHO.
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Andrew Rossa
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jmasno5 Thanks for all of the responses. Right now I'm running X2d. It still has some bugs that I have learned to live with. I guess the updates came so fast on X3 I wondered if they rolled it out too soon. I think I will still wait until the end of the year but is sounds like many are satisfied with X3. The color coding is long overdue. That in itself would be a welcomed site.
SONAR X3c is very stable and we will continue to do more updates. If you like the features in SONAR X3, I would say jump in and start using it today.
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Grem
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I didn't think the color option would be such a show stopper. I mean the ****ing I read about this here in the forums because the new X series lacked true color customization I thought was just overblown.
But now that I have it...
Yes I am well satisfied with this program.
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patm300e
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X3C here...Running fine. I do mostly actual audio recording (Live insrtuments/drums/vocals)...It all traks fine. I like the BT pugins as well as the tape simulator.
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cclarry
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jmasno5 Right now I'm running X2d.
I must have missed that one...X2 only ever went to a...not D.....maybe X1d?
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rontarrant
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DAW software isn't nearly as complex as 3D animation software, but it comes close enough that I think it's unrealistic to expect a bug-free version. I think the only way it would even be possible to come close would be if the developers went really-really old school and created a small loader app that booted the OS to the curb and commandeered the entire machine from CPUs to USB ports while the DAW software was running. It wouldn't be impossible, but it would take some doing. On the bright side, it would mean no more distinction between Mac, Linux and Windows versions. Only the loader app would be OS-specific. Also, latency would be practically impossible. It's nice to dream, at least.
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jmasno5
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cclarry
jmasno5 Right now I'm running X2d.
I must have missed that one...X2 only ever went to a...not D.....maybe X1d?
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jmasno5
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You maybe right. I haven't looked. I remember a d version somewhere.
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Andrew Rossa
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jmasno5 You maybe right. I haven't looked. I remember a d version somewhere.
Maybe SONAR X1d
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I bought it yesterday and downloaded all the plugs and updates. Took several hours. I got up this morning and installed. I installed X3 and just the new features. Then I went ahead and did the updates. It's running so good it scares me! Latency is so much better! The only problems I have had so far has been the Console Emulator noise on mono track, which everyone is aware of at this point. Turned off the 64 bit precision engine and VOILA! Quiet as a mouse. This feels like the best version of the X series, Hands Down! Barring it having any major problems with your system I say GET IT NOW! I'm sure that they will iron out the Console Emulator problem by the next update. I am thoroughly impressed with the way that Cake is handling this launch! Thumbs Up For The Bakers!
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stevec
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Sidroe This feels like the best version of the X series, Hands Down!
That certainly seems to be the general consensus! When was the last time that happened?
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jmasno5
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Just a heads up for those that have not upgraded to X3. You can save about $15 at musicansfriend.com. They are offering 10% off products $99 or more. You have to get the coupon code via Chat or phone.
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robert_e_bone
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While one could look at the number of maintenance updates since X3 came out as being problematic, (was actually X3a), I would suggest that it means they have been busting hump to address things as quickly as possible, instead of waiting for gathering more patches into a single maintenance update, and I think this is a GREAT thing. In the first place, the X3a was really quite solid, and they have been SUPER attentive and diligent at working on the minor things that have been included with the 3 updates - and another already coming. I think that by far the consensus in the forum is that folks are quite happy that the maintenance is as frequent as it has been. My recommendation is to go ahead and pick up X3 as soon as possible, and you will be quite pleased with it. Bob Bone
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