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X3d constantly crash in all cases!
X3dx64 PE constantly falls in all cases when the project is loaded, by simply plugging any plug into a clean template. Nothing can be done - Sonar immediately falls. Then how X3c in the same situations is working properly. Please excuse my English. Sonar X2x32-X3x64 PE, Win7x64Pro, Yamaha Motif-Rack ES, Alesis Multimix 6FX, KRK RP5.Host-computer: HP EliteBook 8770w | Core i7 3610QM | 2.3GHz | 24Gb RAM | SSD512+SSD1Tb+HDD500+HDD eSATA 2Tb | RME Fireface UCX | UAD2 Solo/Laptop |Slave-computer: Vienna Ensemble Pro 5 | Asus P5B Premium | Quad Q6600 2.4GHz | 8Gb RAM | 5*HDDs 3.4Tb | Asus EAH4850 1Gb | ESI Julia + M-Audio FireWire Audiophile | UAD-1, UAD-2 Satellite Quad |
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/28 13:04:29
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/28 13:07:28
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By "falls", do you mean it stops working completely? Like a white-screen crash or something?
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/28 13:17:43
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not one of these threads again ...... 
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/28 13:24:02
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By "falls", do you mean it stops working completely? Like a white-screen crash or something? Sorry. Of course, I mean a complete crash, when a pop-up with a proposal to send a message to Cakewalk.
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/28 13:27:27
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You're saying that you simply insert a plugin into any track in a clean project and Sonar crashes? If that were true, not a single person in the world would be able to use the program. Can you provide more info about your system (driver versions, hardware config, audio interface, etc) and maybe we can help you diagnose what the actual issue is.
Most importantly - what plugs are you trying to use when this crash occurs?
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/28 13:37:58
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You're saying that you simply insert a plugin into any track in a clean project and Sonar crashes? Yes. Can you provide more info about your system (driver versions, hardware config, audio interface, etc) and maybe we can help you diagnose what the actual issue is. Win7x64 Pro SP1. Notebook HP EliteBook 8770w | Core i7 3610QM | 2.3GHz | 24Gb RAM | SSD128+HDD500+eSATA 2Tb | M-Audio Fast Track Ultra. UAD2 Solo/Laptop. All drivers are the latest, freshest, current. Most importantly - what plugs are you trying to use when this crash occurs? Any...
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/28 13:58:41
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X3dx64 PE constantly falls in all cases when the project is loaded, by simply plugging any plug into a clean template. Nothing can be done - Sonar immediately falls. Then how X3c in the same situations is working properly.
Please excuse my English.
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I wonder if it is an install issue - are you saying you have X3c and X3d installed concurrently?
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/28 14:00:46
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That's really odd. I'd consider a complete reinstall to ensure something's not corrupted unless anybody else has other ideas to narrow it down.
Was Sonar 2 working ok for you (or whatever the previous version was you were using)?
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/28 14:29:46
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☄ Helpfulby bvideo 2014/01/28 16:23:37
Your situation seems like the patch file you have was not downloaded (or possibly installed) correctly. The first thing I would recommend is re-downloading the X3d patch and reapplying it (right click and run as administrator). Be sure the patch you use is for the version you have. Also please verify that the MD5 hash on the file you downloaded matches what is on that page (at the bottom and re-posted here). For the Producer Edition - (I am assuming PE = Producer Edition)
(Approx. 626.98 MB, MD5: efa084312df8232e31549804b3fec384 )I personally use a program called "FastSum" to verify the MD5 hashes, but there are others available. The MD5 hash is a "thumbprint" of the file to ensure what you have in your machine matches the file on the server you got it from. If you happen to still have the X3d patch on your machine, you can also verify the MD5 hash of it to check.
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/28 14:35:34
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I've been having the same problem with one of my projects. I deleted Garritan Personal Orchestra and so far the project hasn't crashed, but before I deleted it I would experience a crash, getting the crash report window the OP is describing. I also couldn't save anything in the project. I would get the "cannot save, disk may be full" message. I have no idea what the cause it. I'm also running X3d. I am using True Pianos on this project and it is not causing any crashes.
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/28 14:40:33
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I have had downloads AND installs fail when my antivirus software was running during either the download or the install.
There are hash values on the download page you can check against what you downloaded, to make sure the files are correct.
IF you do need/want to remove the current installation and install a fresh copy, you MUST make sure to remove the correct registry entries and the program data folders before you install Sonar again. This is to remove all traces of the prior installation that you are having trouble with.
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/28 15:36:43
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Katnip
I've been having the same problem with one of my projects. I deleted Garritan Personal Orchestra and so far the project hasn't crashed, but before I deleted it I would experience a crash, getting the crash report window the OP is describing. I also couldn't save anything in the project. I would get the "cannot save, disk may be full" message. I have no idea what the cause it. I'm also running X3d. I am using True Pianos on this project and it is not causing any crashes.
I just did a project with GPO in it as well as BFD3 and Kontakt with Dim Pro. I had no trouble at all. GPO with the Aria player works just fine. X3d Producer and Windows 8.1 64 bit.
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/28 16:25:47
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When I saw the title, I assumed it was a parody thread.
I wonder if it's even a legit copy.
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/28 17:05:55
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Anderton
When I saw the title, I assumed it was a parody thread.
I wonder if it's even a legit copy.
Getting a bit paranoid Craig. Not everyone from Russia is a pirate. Most, but not all. Let's see how this plays out. 
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/28 17:12:48
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When I saw the title, I assumed it was a parody thread.
I wonder if it's even a legit copy.
Getting a bit paranoid Craig. Not everyone from Russia is a pirate. Most, but not all. Let's see how this plays out.
I don't think he was being paranoid at all, that's one of the tell tail signs of a boink copy. that or a vst conflict, im not so sure of a installation problem. if its not a driver issue then its probably a vst conflict. nothing wrong with asking a user if he's got a legit copy either, I don't know why some would find that offensive. I don't. my email here is the same account all my stuff was purchased with. and to be honest, would'nt you find yourself wasting time helping someone with a "swab the deck copy" ? I do.
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/28 17:18:07
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Please have a look in the Windows Event Viewer for more information (like yo ho ho etc).
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/28 17:55:53
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I've done other projects with GPO and not had this problem. It seems to occur only in one project so far. I'm going to open a new project and copy the midi track from the problem project and see if I can use GPO in the new project to accomplish the work. If that works I'll copy the final audio track to the project that keeps crashing and hope that it doesn't crash. I haven't done much with the project since deleting GPO, so I'm not completely sure the issue is gone.
I tried going back to X2 with this project to see if I could finish the work there, but I encountered the same crashes. I've spent time on the phone with Cakewalk support to see if the cause could be isolated. We were not able to determine the cause, so a case file was opened to examine the data to see why this might be happening.
I should add that I haven't tried working on other projects that have GPO and other plugs since X2, so I can't say with certainty that the problem won't occur in these projects in X3. Seeing that the OP seems to have the same problem is reason to think that there *may* be a bug.
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/28 20:31:33
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When I saw the title, I assumed it was a parody thread.
I wonder if it's even a legit copy.
Getting a bit paranoid Craig. Not everyone from Russia is a pirate. Most, but not all. Let's see how this plays out.
I didn't say it wasn't a legit copy. I said I wonder, because unusual and consistent crashes are often the sign of a crack. It's also possible to buy a pirated copy that looks legit but isn't, although I haven't seen this happen before with Sonar...it's mostly an issue with Adobe and Microsoft products, where even the packaging looks perfect.
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/28 21:48:29
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When I saw the title, I assumed it was a parody thread.
I wonder if it's even a legit copy.
Getting a bit paranoid Craig. Not everyone from Russia is a pirate. Most, but not all. Let's see how this plays out.
I didn't say it wasn't a legit copy. I said I wonder, because unusual and consistent crashes are often the sign of a crack. It's also possible to buy a pirated copy that looks legit but isn't, although I haven't seen this happen before with Sonar...it's mostly an issue with Adobe and Microsoft products, where even the packaging looks perfect.
I have a friend that visits China every couple of years. He has some stories to tell. Disney stuff over there is ALL pirated as is most of the software you buy. He tells me there's no way to tell it's fake. Gibson also suffers from this issue. I was at my friends guitar shop and he asked me to look at a Les Paul. I look it over and some things are not right, even though it had all the correct stamping for dates and a Custom Shop decal. I knew it was no where near the quality of my goldtop but the stamping and decals threw me off. Some guy bought it online for $300. I guess North America can't shut down offshore corporate piracy because they make everything offshore and owe the Chinese a boat load of money. It's just what happens when you dance with the devil.
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/29 02:12:47
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When I saw the title, I assumed it was a parody thread.
I wonder if it's even a legit copy.
Getting a bit paranoid Craig. Not everyone from Russia is a pirate. Most, but not all. Let's see how this plays out.
I didn't say it wasn't a legit copy. I said I wonder, because unusual and consistent crashes are often the sign of a crack. It's also possible to buy a pirated copy that looks legit but isn't, although I haven't seen this happen before with Sonar...it's mostly an issue with Adobe and Microsoft products, where even the packaging looks perfect.
I have a friend that visits China every couple of years. He has some stories to tell. Disney stuff over there is ALL pirated as is most of the software you buy. He tells me there's no way to tell it's fake.
Gibson also suffers from this issue. I was at my friends guitar shop and he asked me to look at a Les Paul. I look it over and some things are not right, even though it had all the correct stamping for dates and a Custom Shop decal. I knew it was no where near the quality of my goldtop but the stamping and decals threw me off. Some guy bought it online for $300.
This is indeed a major problem, especially when someone then posts online about how Gibson's quality has gone to hell. There are massive numbers of counterfeit Les Pauls out there.
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/29 03:00:13
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A good guitar is still a good guitar, and a bad one is still a bad one.
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/29 03:51:43
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Anderton
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When I saw the title, I assumed it was a parody thread.
I wonder if it's even a legit copy.
Getting a bit paranoid Craig. Not everyone from Russia is a pirate. Most, but not all. Let's see how this plays out.
I didn't say it wasn't a legit copy. I said I wonder, because unusual and consistent crashes are often the sign of a crack. It's also possible to buy a pirated copy that looks legit but isn't, although I haven't seen this happen before with Sonar...it's mostly an issue with Adobe and Microsoft products, where even the packaging looks perfect.
I have a friend that visits China every couple of years. He has some stories to tell. Disney stuff over there is ALL pirated as is most of the software you buy. He tells me there's no way to tell it's fake.
Gibson also suffers from this issue. I was at my friends guitar shop and he asked me to look at a Les Paul. I look it over and some things are not right, even though it had all the correct stamping for dates and a Custom Shop decal. I knew it was no where near the quality of my goldtop but the stamping and decals threw me off. Some guy bought it online for $300.
This is indeed a major problem, especially when someone then posts online about how Gibson's quality has gone to hell. There are massive numbers of counterfeit Les Pauls out there.
There is also a magnificent Gibson shop in Shanghai (in the French quarter of town) which sells the real deal. Then again go to Jinling Street and you can get whatever you want for whatever your purse holds. But not all items are counterfeit in China, at least in my business, I go there every month. Just saying' Cheers, Jerry
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/29 04:14:33
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I have had a legit copy of Cakewalk's products since Cakewalk for dos (didn't midi on a PC seem spectacular:)......but surely all of you people talking about dodgy cracked versions of Sonar realise there is no such thing! They dont have to crack it because it has no copy protection to speak of - just a serial number. It is one of the reasons it is so much more stable then Cubase with its iLok protection bogging down the code. If the guy is having a problem - legit software or not - it surely isn't the crack causing it in Sonar.
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/29 04:20:18
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I wonder if it is an install issue - are you saying you have X3c and X3d installed concurrently? Of course not. After X3d became crash I restored the OS from the image. Your situation seems like the patch file you have was not downloaded (or possibly installed) correctly. The first thing I would recommend is re-downloading the X3d patch and reapplying it (right click and run as administrator). Be sure the patch you use is for the version you have. OK, thanks, I'll try. I personally use a program called "FastSum"... OK, thanks, will try it too. I wonder if it's even a legit copy. I have all the licenses Sonar, starting with version 6 and up to X3. Not everyone from Russia is a pirate. Yes, it is. --- Yamaha Motif-Rack ES, Win7x64Pro,Host-computer: Sonar X2x32-X3x64 PE - HP EliteBook 8770w | Core i7 3610QM | 2.3GHz | 24Gb RAM | SSD128Gb+HDD500Gb+HDD2Tb eSATA| M-Audio Fast Track Ultra | UAD2 Solo/Laptop |Slave-computer: Vienna Ensemble Pro 5 | Asus P5B Premium | Quad Q6600 2.4GHz | 8Gb RAM | 5*HDDs 3.4Tb | Asus EAH4850 1Gb | ESI Juli@ + M-Audio FireWire Audiophile | UAD-1, UAD-2 Satellite Quad | KRK RP5 | Alesis Multimix 6FX |
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/01/29 04:24:44
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Arrh. Me thinks ring technical support then if this dosn't work me hearties.
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/03/02 09:50:46
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Hello! Just today, finally had time to install the update x3d. Everything happened successfully. Thank you all!
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/03/02 12:46:52
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Please update the name for this thread as :solved or now OK. And am pleased that your issues are past.  exeRsysT
Hello! Just today, finally had time to install the update x3d. Everything happened successfully. Thank you all!
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/03/02 18:50:17
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Again, Run As Administrator, if I understood it correctly.
Bakers, IF Run As Administrator really does work better or is needed for installation, if it is not somewhere really big and bold in the instructions, could you PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE put this in a sticky thread or within the install instructions with a GIANT font?
This issue keeps coming up over and over again.
Thanks,
Bob Bone
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Re: X3d constantly falls in all cases!
2014/03/02 19:48:25
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I find this a little weird. If a installation is not successful because it does not have the right permissions to install whatever file or registry entry it is.... it should not complete. It is writing to the wrong area of the registry for some reason just because of permissions then it is a bug (I don't see this to be likely either).
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