X-ray Windows For P5 Ver. 2.5?

Boy, this post died in a hurry...

You can have xray functionality now if you use Glass2K. Read the help document for the short cuts for traparency levels. I love using it with Sonar 5.2 and P5v2.

http://chime.tv/products/glass2k.shtml

Peace

my hope is they will sneak it in along with custom color schemes like Sonar has

Yes you can, it is similar to the Sonar X-ray. The company hasn't updated the application for a while So I would eve go to say that it has been purchased and the version o nthe website was thet last free version. Heck. Sonar's X=Ray may been the lates verserion of Glass2K


Go ahead and play with it and see if you like it. If not, you can always uninstall it. I like using it and I can use in on individual windows too.

Peace

ORIGINAL: brzilian

Who cares about this X-Ray functionality?

ATI and nVidia drivers have been able to do that for years...

That alone is not reason enough to move to Vista especially when everyone is reporting that if you run XP and Vista on the same machine, XP will run faster and eat up less resources.

Hmm, Ithink you may have jumped in on this conversation a little quickly brzillian

This is a conversation about the Sonar 6.2 X-Ray function , that allows you to make everything transparent, temporarily so that you can go straight for the mixer page etc , while still keeping a plug in , or multiple plug in windows open. So in Project5 (if it were implemented) you could have Dimension Pro (which takes up a good deal of screen real estate), press a key combination and you can now use your mouse through the plug in and straight on the track panes/arrange page.

It had nothing to do with Vista. As to the aero interface taking up more resourses and running faster, I found the opposite to be true. 1 GB RAM and a X1650 Pro Graphics card and it ran smoother than XP. Probably because the graphic work was now hoisted onto the graphics card and reduced the CPU workload. I found that identical projects in both P5 and Sonar worked within a few percent of each other in both operating systems.

I had a few compatibility issues (non-hardware) with mastering software I use, so Ive left it at XP for the time being. However if it were not for that (and another issue that is unrelated to op systems) I would be using Vista right now instead of XP.

If waveRT drivers ever materialise for the EMU 0404 or the Firewire Solo Ill probably switch very quickly. Running an onboard sound card that previously had stutters in XP at 10 ms latency at 3 ms latency in Vista with none is quite a bit of a difference. P5 2.5 has not been listed as being able to use waveRT drivers yet, currently its only Sonar 6.2 and Vista itself that can utilise them.

Back to the original topic, I dont think X-Ray will make it to P5 2.5 , it will be brilliant if it does. Im tempted to try out Glass2k to see if it performs similarly. Thanks for mentioning it.

Oh I hope not !!!

It's way down my list of thigs I'd like. Not used it a lot in Sonar either (although I understand some people swear by it).

Of course, I've got three monitors which may make a difference.

Andy

3 monitors? I'm jealous

The price of LCD monitors now, you just have to resist buying one plugin and bobs your uncle...

Andy

ORIGINAL: syrath

Hmm, Ithink you may have jumped in on this conversation a little quickly brzillian

This is a conversation about the Sonar 6.2 X-Ray function , that allows you to make everything transparent, temporarily so that you can go straight for the mixer page etc , while still keeping a plug in , or multiple plug in windows open. So in Project5 (if it were implemented) you could have Dimension Pro (which takes up a good deal of screen real estate), press a key combination and you can now use your mouse through the plug in and straight on the track panes/arrange page.

It had nothing to do with Vista. As to the aero interface taking up more resourses and running faster, I found the opposite to be true. 1 GB RAM and a X1650 Pro Graphics card and it ran smoother than XP. Probably because the graphic work was now hoisted onto the graphics card and reduced the CPU workload. I found that identical projects in both P5 and Sonar worked within a few percent of each other in both operating systems.

I had a few compatibility issues (non-hardware) with mastering software I use, so Ive left it at XP for the time being. However if it were not for that (and another issue that is unrelated to op systems) I would be using Vista right now instead of XP.

If waveRT drivers ever materialise for the EMU 0404 or the Firewire Solo Ill probably switch very quickly. Running an onboard sound card that previously had stutters in XP at 10 ms latency at 3 ms latency in Vista with none is quite a bit of a difference. P5 2.5 has not been listed as being able to use waveRT drivers yet, currently its only Sonar 6.2 and Vista itself that can utilise them.

Back to the original topic, I dont think X-Ray will make it to P5 2.5 , it will be brilliant if it does. Im tempted to try out Glass2k to see if it performs similarly. Thanks for mentioning it.

My inderstanding is that the X-Ray feature is only available if you are using Vista. Like I said, nVidia already implemented that feature into is graphics drivers for both XP and 2000 several years ago. I was simply pointing out that that is a feature video card driver manufacturers have already impleemented.

Please refer to page 188 of the nVidia Forceware User Guide:

http://download.nvidia.com/Windows/Quadro_Certified/91.36/91.36_Forceware_nView_Users_Guide.pdf

Select the Make Windows Transparent When Dragged check box to enable window
transparency when windows are dragged. Windows become transparent as you hold
down the mouse option while on the window’s title bar, allowing you to quickly see
what is underneath the window. When you release the mouse option, the window
becomes opaque.

Also, several sites including Tomshardware.com have reported minimal speed increases when moving to Vista on multiple CPU/core systems only. Single Core systems experienced a significant decrease in overall performance in Vista.

This would exclude older P4s and Athlon-64 which are still quite capable of running XP and P5 (I happen to use a Gateway laptop with an Athlon-64 processor).

I've used the Xray in sonar and did find it nice,I'd be all for having it in P5 .There was some threads over there discussing it and some think its a gimmickor such but I found it very conviniant.