Xtouch and Track color

Hi All.

I expected that when you change a color for a track on Sonar as that change will be applied on the xtouch also.
The window is still in black after change.
There's a way to do it?
 
Regards
 
 

I know that MC is the reference, but it could be interesting to ask this specific protocole at Behringer.
Xtouch fully compatible with Sonar could be very intersting indeed.


 

ok so this is promising.
I see : www.azslow.com - Control Surface Integration Platform for SONAR 
Maybe just integrate the device into your road map for 2017.
Behringer could lend you one? Why not.
 
 

If you want, i could make some tests for you and why not, be able to send some dumps and other traces.

No problem.
I use Xtouch with Midi over Ethernet.
It could be easy to make some captures with WireSark between my workstation and Xtouch.

Hi, I was looking for a X-Touch, but read about color strip limitation.
Someone has done a good work and produces a pdf document on Xctl protocol.
First, the Xctl is possible between an XR console and the X-Touch over MIDI connection.
It uses SysEx messages, but I do not see a complete SysEx message and the manufacter part seems to be missing...
Second, a periodic message is needed to keep the link.
Third, the Xctl+MC(firmware 1.15) protocol authorize dual connection, XR console on one side with MIDI cable and Xctl, DAW on the other side on USB cable with MC protocol. But I don't know the behavior on switching from one to one.
Maybe It is possible to fake an XR console on MIDI port from the surface control DLL, and implement strips colors.
Sources of Mackie Control from Cakewalk are availables ;-)
What happens if a blank text is sent with color on Xctl then the MC text message ? Do strips keep their color ?
If not, the MC display message has to be changed with the Xctl version.
 
On SONAR side, the interface IHostStripInfo seems to contains color information.
 
I missed the sales period for an X-Touch, I have to wait until the next ones to try. Maybe someone will find a workaround... 

I have checked and it seems like X3 indicate colors correctly. I will check Platinum later, but I guess it should work there as well.
 
So the next phase is to check under which conditions X-Touch recognize it. I will prepare AZ Controller test preset for such check next days and will put the link here.

azslow3
So the next phase is to check under which conditions X-Touch recognize it. I will prepare AZ Controller test preset for such check next days and will put the link here.

Just if you missed it, I suggest you the great document "Xctl protocol for X-Touch V1.0.pdf" from someone that test the X-Touch with the XR16 over DIN5 MIDI port.
 
I'm really interrested by your investigations 
 
I would like to thanks you for the time you pass on this strip color feature.

Ups... I forgot about it... I was in progress with 2 accessibility projects, one is finished now so probably I can find time for the test.
Sorry for the delay and thank you for reminding (feel free to "ping" me again in PM if I do not came with something next week). 

danardf
Let me know if you need anything.

I am not sure we understand each other at the moment...
In the link there are instructions how to check that I can control the display of XTouch. I can not check that myself,
but you can.
Once we find at least one method which works (probably hardware MIDI), we should check either it works throw USB and/or MIDI over network. And in which modes (Xctl only or also in Xctl+MCU).
Depending from the results, we can then plan which route to take: modify MackieControl plug-in or AZ Controller preset for Mackie.
 

Fore the test:
a) XTouch should be in "XCtl" mode, better pure, so without MC (so MackieControl should NOT work)
b) initial test should be done with XTouch connected throw MIDI cables, not with USB.
 
That are not my limitations...
Behringer has implemented that protocol for own digital mixers, so we in fact try to "trick" it presenting Sonar+AZ Controller as X-Air mixer. If I understand RE documentation correctly, the author has tried to understand network communications between X-Touch and X-Air, but gave up and switched to hardware MIDI only.

Unable to connect the X-Touch under Sonar Platinum
I used the Midi Cable (USB -> DIN)
No result.
On the X-Touch : MIDI: no link

If something can go wrong, it will go wrong. I do not remember who was the first with such pessimistic statement 
 
With USB-MIDI cable and Xctl mode, open AZ Controller interface:
1. without touching anything on XTouch. Do you see something in the "Last MIDI event" ?
2. If yes, what exactly?
3. If no, in the Overview Tab, do you see "Device(Online)"?
 
According to the documentation, XTouch should send "ping". But it is unclear either it does that only after correct "Hello" is received or always.