Yamaha MSP5 vs HS80M

Hi,

I have been using Yamaha MSP5 monitors for about two years and I am very happy with its sound and how my mixes translate on other speakers. However this pair was just borrowed from my friend and he wants them back now.

So I have to decide what monitors to buy. I am willing to spend no more than 500 EUR.

What do you think, should I buy MSP5s as I am used to how they sound or should I give HS80M a try?
Or do you have any better recommendation? 

Thanks

thanks Ludwig for chiming in.

I ordered MSP5s from Thomann a few hours ago. I think, that for my room, smaller monitors are more suitable, cos bigger speakers mean more lows and more lows in practically untreated room means more problems :) My humble analogy :D

I read some reviews saying that MSP5s are approaching to the old NS10s in terms of how they sound. That one has to "learn" how to mix on them, because of their specific sound, mainly in highs and mids. Well, I have been mixing on them for one year or so, so I am used to that sound. I am not saying I have learned how to mix, though :)

I know a couple of big studios that use the MSP5s for their near field monitoring.  They work well.  You won't get as much bass on them as the HS 80s, but there you go.  They were selling the MSP7s for not that much more here in the states a few months back.  Don't know if such a deal is still around, but it would be worth spending a few more bucks (or pounds) for when you move into a bigger room.  I'm still using 30 year old Yamis here at home - big brothers to the NS 10s.

I just heard from Yamaha - the HS80s are so popular, there's an 8 week wait! But I do know some big boys that also the 5s, so good choice, I'm sure. Enjoy!

Marek,

That is strange.  I find a nice if confused and disappointed letter, call or email gets best results.  Let them explain, if they can.  Then firmly state that you were originally charged, tho I would keep the tone light, as if you can't believe they haven't made an honest mistake.  If that still doesn't clear things up and you can't speak to someone higher on the food chain to resolve the situation, then explain how put upon you feel and that you will be contacting the President of the company.  That threat is usually enough to get the underlings to blink.  If not, write the president/CEO or whomever (check the name before you make the threat).  Explain in the contact how you were treated and you've already started complaining on the internet about his company's service and causually mention the music boards you frequent (even if you don't).

Most of all don't get angry (or at least show it).  Be courtious, fair and give them every oppurtunity to do right.  Most will.  It is just amazing how just about everyone will nickel or dime you to death if you don't kick up a fuss.  I spent 3 hours over 6 months getting a satellite bill fixed - they would say it was and next month the same charges would appear.  They just hope to wear you down.

Also, tell someone fixing your problem you'll write a nice email about how they personally fixed your problem.  And do it, just like the letter to the President.  It doesn't help you, but the next person along.  We got to stick together.

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Marek,

That is strange.  I find a nice if confused and disappointed letter, call or email gets best results.  Let them explain, if they can.  Then firmly state that you were originally charged, tho I would keep the tone light, as if you can't believe they haven't made an honest mistake.  If that still doesn't clear things up and you can't speak to someone higher on the food chain to resolve the situation, then explain how put upon you feel and that you will be contacting the President of the company.  That threat is usually enough to get the underlings to blink.  If not, write the president/CEO or whomever (check the name before you make the threat).  Explain in the contact how you were treated and you've already started complaining on the internet about his company's service and causually mention the music boards you frequent (even if you don't).

Most of all don't get angry (or at least show it).  Be courtious, fair and give them every oppurtunity to do right.  Most will.  It is just amazing how just about everyone will nickel or dime you to death if you don't kick up a fuss.  I spent 3 hours over 6 months getting a satellite bill fixed - they would say it was and next month the same charges would appear.  They just hope to wear you down.

Also, tell someone fixing your problem you'll write a nice email about how they personally fixed your problem.  And do it, just like the letter to the President.  It doesn't help you, but the next person along.  We got to stick together.

Actually, I wrote them an email at 13:13 CET but haven't received any answer yet. They have working hours till 18:30 CET. I reported the problem there and asked them to explain their position. Few minutes ago, I sent them another email, copies to marketing, accounting and international department, asking them to refund me 40 EUR or cancel the order and refund me 510 EUR.

I wish it were just a mistake. But a few months ago, I ordered Presonus headphones distribution HP4 from Thomann.de and the same thing happened, except they did not charge the higher sum. But the price on the order page and the price in the invoice were not the same... Maybe they have a bug in their order-processing system, but honestly, as a customer I do not care. 

But I think even PayPal has its share of fault. I approved to pay Musikhaus Thomann 470 EUR, not 510 EUR. How can they claim to be safer way to pay on the Internet when the merchant can bill a higher sum of money than you have approved? I am also in communication with PayPal regarding this.

Maybe someone can say, oh well it is only 40 EUR difference. But this is about principle in he first place.

I will let you informed how it goes. But I definitely will not buy anything from Thomann in the future.

Well, thoman is going to organize a refund for me.

Their explanation of adding additional costs can be read via the link below. There is a copy of the email I received from them.

http://thomann.jamadza.com/

Be aware that according to EU Directive 98/6/EC and 97/7/EC - Article 4, paragraph 1, seller has to inform buyer about the total price including taxes and shipping cost before the order is confirmed.
Thomann fails to do this. They show you the lowest price on the order page, accept the payment and then charge your credit card with the higher price and then send you the invoice with the higher prices. Very unfair and against the law. Well, maybe other customers are happy with this, but when DV24 or other e-shops can manage this, why not Thomann??.

Ok, I am waiting for my money and then going to place an order at DV24.com Do you have any bad experience with Digital Village? 

Thanks