Yeah... more steel guitar. "Lots of Lonely"

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2014/06/14 10:48:35 (permalink)

Yeah... more steel guitar. "Lots of Lonely"

So, part of this is channeling David Lindley    The steel part comes in at around 45 seconds and then stays in for the remainder of the tune... actually kind of driving it. It was my first take and played all the way thru without edit. Not perfect but it works for the tune.  I spent a ton of time on this mix and took a week break after the final mix before returning to master it. My vocals are as usual.... my vocals   This will probably be the first cut on my second CD release "Home Cooking and Other Mistakes". 
http://www.reverbnation.com/stevestallings/song/21105270-lots-of-lonely
 
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thanks!

Steve 
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    chasmcg
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    Re: Yeah... more steel guitar. "Lots of Lonely" 2014/06/14 12:39:15 (permalink)
    Steve, the steel sounds very good to me. Wasn't that crazy about the snare. All the tracks, to me, seemed to need a little more shine/brightness to me. Vocal sounded fine to me. Enjoyed listening to this.

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    Re: Yeah... more steel guitar. "Lots of Lonely" 2014/06/14 14:00:27 (permalink)
    I am with chasmcg on sound of the track.  It seems lacking in luster.  Lead voc is really hot in volume.  Snare has a "punky" sound.  I think you need a remix.  The song and playing is very good.

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    Re: Yeah... more steel guitar. "Lots of Lonely" 2014/06/14 14:00:51 (permalink)
    Sounds good overall! There isn't anything wrong with your vocal ( sounds like Whispering Bill Anderson). It gets kinda lost in the mix when the steel guitar comes in, I think it could come up quite a bit. Other than that it  sounds pretty good. I agree the snare is a little dull.

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    Re: Yeah... more steel guitar. "Lots of Lonely" 2014/06/14 15:29:06 (permalink)
    That steel sounds great :-)
     
    I may squeeze your vox a bit harder and bump them up a weence. Good job!

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    Re: Yeah... more steel guitar. "Lots of Lonely" 2014/06/14 15:58:37 (permalink)
    You have an excellent country songwriting style and flair for the vocals and guitars.  Overall a very enjoyable song. :)
     
    One thing I want to mention is that I think the drum mix could use some work.  It sounds to my ear like you spent a lot of effort making every drum and cymbal isolated from each other, by using heavy EQ cuts, filters and (possibly) gates.
     
    When I mix acoustic drumkits I always remember that bleed through is not the enemy.  I say let the drum tracks ring out and bleed through each other.  Individual drums will resonate with each other, and that is a big part of their natural sound.  Removing track bleed makes drums sound thin and weak.
     
    Also, if you have a pair of room mics in the mix, turn that up, and turn all the other mics down significantly.
     
    As always, just my $0.02!

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    Re: Yeah... more steel guitar. "Lots of Lonely" 2014/06/16 10:03:07 (permalink)
    Nice steel. I'm a fool for a sweet steel.....
     
    This reminds me alot of the country rock I listened to growing up....

    IMHO, good song, but the mix needs more definition. Basically a number of little things that need fixing to get it up the ladder to a punchier more robust mix.
     
    Several commented on this aspect above. 
     
    When I am mixing and get into trouble with the mix not sounding right, I go back to square one. I pull all the FX out and start again with bare tracks. There's a good clean mix in those tracks.... your job is to pull it out without destroying it in the process.

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    Re: Yeah... more steel guitar. "Lots of Lonely" 2014/06/16 14:39:59 (permalink)
    Steve,
     
    Nice one.   At the risk of sounding redundant, I think your drums need some work and I would bring the vocals up a bit.   Otherwise, really good.    Very enjoyable listen.

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    Re: Yeah... more steel guitar. "Lots of Lonely" 2014/06/19 18:03:52 (permalink)
    Ok ladies and germs, this is a new mix. I tried to incorporate all of the input here. 
    http://www.reverbnation.c...1105270-lots-of-lonely

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    Re: Yeah... more steel guitar. "Lots of Lonely" 2014/06/19 19:57:01 (permalink)
    Sounds much better to me Steve. Good job. The vox still feel a little tentative, but that's just the way you sang it/style I guess. It does sound better though.

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    Re: Yeah... more steel guitar. "Lots of Lonely" 2014/06/20 08:12:41 (permalink)
    Sounds like a big improvement to me.  Drums sound much more natural now, much better.  Maybe they could even come down a little in the new mix, as they might be overshadowing some of your background instruments.

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    Re: Yeah... more steel guitar. "Lots of Lonely" 2014/06/20 10:23:47 (permalink)
    Yeah... headed in the right direction.
     
    Going to listen on cans......
     
    OK... the cans let me get inside the song better.  I'm hearing the drums as a few db too loud and they sound compressed a bit too much for country. Ease off the comp and back the volume levels off a bit. 
     
    The guitar in the beginning is setting too far back in the mix and doesn't have enough presence on it's tone.  On the computer it sounded like a muddy something being played. Cans let me hear what it was. Mix for the lowest common denominator. That way it sounds impressive on a better system.
     
    Minor nits that need fixing but headed in the right direction. It kinda has a Jackson Browne feel to it in many ways.... I really loved his Running on Empty project and Lindley was on that with him.

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