eliafell
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Yearly upgrades.
Hey guys, I own Sonar Platinum through steam. My yearly update plan thing ran out in April, and I have been looking into renewing it to get the rolling updates going again only to realise that platinum users have to pay a heap more money to do so. At the moment it would cost me 249USD to jump back on the rolling updates compared to Pro which is only 99USD. I looked back at the past months to see what the difference is between the versions and I have to say I am somewhat baffled by the fact that platinum users only get 1 or 2 extra features compared to the rest. How on earth is this "season pass" worth an extra 150 a year? I paid a premium upfront for platinum to get the extra features like vocalsync etc, so I feel I am being somewhat punished for owning a more expensive product. Does anyone feel the same about this issue? I am not trying to troll, honest, I love Sonar as a DAW. I just feel there is something wrong with the pricing structure here. Thanks. Neil
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 08:14:30
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1 or 2 features? Really? Is that your considered opinion or do you have facts to back that up? Here is a basic list of the different versions. This does not include updates and features provided monthly. http://www.cakewalk.com/P...s/SONAR/Versions#start
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 08:55:55
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Did you misunderstand my post? I was talking about the updates dude. Not what came with it originally.
Theres my evidence. And as i said, not trolling. Just finding it hard to see the value comparatively
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eliafell
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 08:56:27
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https://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Rolling-Updates
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eliafell
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 09:04:35
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As far as i can tell, according to the rolling updates page for 2017, there has only been the transform tool that is specific to platinum. Am i crazy or is this correct? Not trying to start a fight, again i love sonar, I'm just struggling to comprehend.
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 09:33:44
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I guess the obvious answer is if you don't think the rolling updates are worth the yearly charge then stay with the version you have, and keep all of the features that as you point out you have already paid for. It doesn't get much fairer than that.
Take a look at Adobe if you need to put the fairness of the Cakewalk rolling update system into perspective.
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 09:41:31
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Could be fairer IMO as ive pointed out the differences between the updates. But each to their own. Man i would be stoked if i could buy the professional season pass 2017 (i don't believe this is possible for splat owners?) As it has everything bar 1 addition (so far).
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 09:53:30
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☄ Helpfulby eliafell 2017/07/11 10:06:06
If you paid for a full year, you "own" it.
You can purchase a Professional licence now instead, if desired.
All the best.
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 09:59:21
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☄ Helpfulby eliafell 2017/07/11 10:02:11
Honestly, I get your point of view. It is valid for the isolated upgrade perspective. But of course the business model is a bit different. You pay to continue to use Platinum components together with updated core components - or keep the state of platinum.
I like the Cakewalk Software very much. Last year I started with Artist, that would have been enough for a long time. But then came the lifetime offer, and this was obviously a no brainer for me to update to Platinum.
So - it is your choice if you pay or not. Maybe it is worth to consider if the Pro or Artist variant might be enough.
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 10:07:14
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Zargg
If you paid for a full year, you "own" it.
You can purchase a Professional licence now instead, if desired.
All the best.
Thanks Zargg. Good to know champ. SigiZ58
Honestly, I get your point of view. It is valid for the isolated upgrade perspective. But of course the business model is a bit different. You pay to continue to use Platinum components together with updated core components - or keep the state of platinum.
I like the Cakewalk Software very much. Last year I started with Artist, that would have been enough for a long time. But then came the lifetime offer, and this was obviously a no brainer for me to update to Platinum.
So - it is your choice if you pay or not. Maybe it is worth to consider if the Pro or Artist variant might be enough.
Thanks Sigi, I appreciate the insight. Decisions to be made, no doubt.
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 10:16:30
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☄ Helpfulby eliafell 2017/07/11 10:21:57
There is nothing stopping you from downgrading, but features only available in Platinum will go away. You can still use the Platinum version you have when needed.
Unfortunately there has been no segregation between the main program and add-ons (much of Platinum is really a one-time buy, since that content will never change), so upgrades to Platinum get marketed highly, but renewal pricing takes a back burner. After an initial purchase, the changes to Platinum (essentially the main program) are a small percentage of the "Platinum" package.
As alluded to above, value is in the eye of the buyer so vote with your wallet accordingly.
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 10:19:00
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☄ Helpfulby eliafell 2017/07/11 10:26:40
Zargg
If you paid for a full year, you "own" it.
You can purchase a Professional licence now instead, if desired.
All the best.
But you loose vocal align, drum replacement and some other stuff - or? It's a bit tricky to make downgrades in a good way. With pure content stuff it is easier - once bought you own it. One reason I prefer not to get dependent on anything stock shipped with a daw. It's always been like this even during the Sonar Studio and top model Producer - much higher annual costs just getting daw improvements. Once you did an upgrade - you are stuck with so much higher annuals costs - it kept me back. But still feel Cakewalk approach is among the better ones - getting really good basic features as of Sonar Artist already. But maybe it should be diversified a bit more - keeping the rolling updates the same price for everything - and lower than now. Then doing the plunge and get Platinum paying that more once - you get more value staying on. Not as now you are penalized every year for doing that. If any content or plugins - provide discounts for that instead. Rolling updates is a separate maintenance thingy. With the fabulous VST standard you can actually get anything in plugins from anywhere to fit you budget. Anything good by a vendor - it will be sold separately as well. Like Dimension Pro which I bought more than 10 years ago separately. But also included in Producer - it kept me from upgrading and stayed on Studio - since I already payed for that one. Why pay twice for the same plugins. The product line need to be planned really well - and not as a shot in the dark as Cake tend to do. First there is Mac - then there is not. Then there are simplified pricing policy - and on it goes....
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 10:28:21
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I think there is a discounted member price until the beginning of August. When you open the platinum version in the store , you will see the price you have to pay. I am not sure, maybe this is also a lifetime payment. If you stay here very long on the chat you will miss the sale. Just sayin.
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 10:28:43
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Awesome insights guys, I do appreciate it. I am super bummed I missed the lifetime updates (dark times), just trying to decide what to do going forward. But the responses are great! Honestly I was kinda scared to post on here because I see a lot of people getting ripped apart for the smallest things haha, theres still time I guess  .
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 10:44:45
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Zargg
If you paid for a full year, you "own" it.
You can purchase a Professional licence now instead, if desired.
All the best.
But you loose vocal align, drum replacement and some other stuff - or?
I believe that you do that in Pro. But you could open projects on both version, making it possible to use "all" features that existed when the Platinum payment lapsed. All the best.
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 11:10:06
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Does Pro have the quadcurve EQ flyout? Damn I'd miss that!
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 11:36:51
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eliafell
Did you misunderstand my post? I was talking about the updates dude. Not what came with it originally.
Theres my evidence. And as i said, not trolling. Just finding it hard to see the value comparatively
I think you missed the point. When you buy Sonar Platinum you get for the entire year monthly updates that often include core features that are exclusive to Platinum. They may appear in a lesser version down the line but they often are exclusive to Sonar Platinum at lease for awhile. It could be that you don't need all that comes in Platinum or will come in it. Thus, you may be acquiring the wrong version. Some were mentioned by some of the responding posters. Perhaps a less aggressive attitude would serve you better.
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 12:16:09
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mettelus
As alluded to above, value is in the eye of the buyer so vote with your wallet accordingly.
+++ CW has recently changed the marketing politic to "aggressive" (from at some aspects very strange, down to clearly unprofitable). Just wait till the difference in value FOR YOU between what you already have and what is in the current version is more then the money you are asked to pay. Your question is subjective an has no single answer. They are people for which 2017.1 -> 2017.6 are not worse a single cent, but I guess there are other for which recent updates are worse the annual price.
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 12:40:01
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LOL John, pot calling the kettle black mate? There was no aggression there mate. I believe a lot gets lost with text only, considering your original post appeared somewhat aggressive  I do understand exactly what I own, and why I purchased platinum in the first place. My whole post here was simply about the price of keeping platinum updated as it is vastly more expensive than the rest considering you get not much more, that is all I am getting at. Again, no aggression mate. As I said, everyone has valid points. I'll vote accordingly.
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 13:16:28
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Does Pro have the quadcurve EQ flyout? Damn I'd miss that!
It believe that is Platinum exclusive 
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 14:12:59
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John
1 or 2 features? Really? Is that your considered opinion or do you have facts to back that up? Here is a basic list of the different versions. This does not include updates and features provided monthly. http://www.cakewalk.com/P...s/SONAR/Versions#start
afaict from that link the only things you won't have are drum replacer, vocal sync and the fly-out thing on the eq... all the other stuff is add-ins (plugins) which should still work unless they're now locking stuff to "sonar platinum" and not just "sonar" also, you will get a response from cakewalk themselves if you post on the steam forum, whereas this here is just a users' forum good luck!
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 15:02:40
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☄ Helpfulby pwalpwal 2017/07/12 13:08:38
Transform Tool. Plug-In Load Balancing, and Theme Editor are Platinum-only.
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 15:29:15
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☄ Helpfulby pwalpwal 2017/07/12 13:08:42
Pow-r dithering options are only in Platinum. Try searching the help for "Platinum only" to see the features and plug-ins exclusive to Platinum.
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 15:56:19
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I don't really get the whole Steam vs Cakewalk thing. I would have thought it's more advantageous to purchase Sonar direct through Cakewalk.
With Cakewalk as I understand it, you are paying for a permanent license for Sonar Platinum which does not expire. For that, you get 1 year of monthly updates included. If you do not pay again the following year, you still get to keep and use Sonar Platinum for as long as you want, but will no longer get the monthly updates. You are not paying for a subscription for a Sonar license or a subscription for updates. It is not a subscription. So the price difference between the different Sonar packages is based on the features and content you get in those packages which you can go on using as long as you like. So is Steam just a subscription where if you do not renew, you can not use the software anymore? If so I don't see the point in getting Sonar through Steam.
In your case, perhaps you could switch to a monthly subscription for now and keep an eye out for a favourable offer/promotion through Cakewalk then jump at that!
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 16:26:57
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I don't really get the whole Steam vs Cakewalk thing. I would have thought it's more advantageous to purchase Sonar direct through Cakewalk.
There are a lot of people using Steam. Cakewalk provides a way for those users to purchase Cakewalk products in a way that is familiar to them. The product is the same. The distribution method is different. Regardless of where the purchase is made, all Cakewalk products come with the same license for use. Once the purchase is complete, licenses do not expire. The payment plan only affects when the full license is granted. The one-time payment plan grants the full license immediately. The monthly payment plan, grants the full license after 12 consecutive payments. In all cases, renewal to receive updates and support is optional.
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 17:08:04
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I don't really get the whole Steam vs Cakewalk thing. I would have thought it's more advantageous to purchase Sonar direct through Cakewalk.
There are a lot of people using Steam. Cakewalk provides a way for those users to purchase Cakewalk products in a way that is familiar to them. The product is the same. The distribution method is different.
Regardless of where the purchase is made, all Cakewalk products come with the same license for use. Once the purchase is complete, licenses do not expire. The payment plan only affects when the full license is granted. The one-time payment plan grants the full license immediately. The monthly payment plan, grants the full license after 12 consecutive payments. In all cases, renewal to receive updates and support is optional.
scook, thanks for the clarification. In that case, I can't see what the OP is complaining about. He now has a full license for Platinum but his monthly updates have run out. The comparison of updates between different versions of Sonar is irrelevant. The difference in cost is related to the difference in what's included in the Platinum license compared to Pro, which is quite a lot! The OP only has to pay for another year if they want all the latest monthly updates. Or put another way, they can pay for another year if or when they decide they want to update Splat to a new version that has a feature they really need. The pricing seems fair to me. Cake do put on special offers now and then so that would be the best time to renew the license. I think the OP is looking at this from the wrong direction. You are paying for a license, not updates. Most software you purchase one time and get free updates that are released within one year of your purchase. After that one year period if you want to upgrade to the latest version you have to purchase a new license again (often getting a discounted upgrade fee) - that's the standard, traditional model. The only real difference with Sonar is that updates are released on an incremental, monthly rolling basis rather than being saved up and released as one major annual update. With Sonar you also have the option to pay for the full license in 12 monthly instalments, use it for just a couple of months or carry on paying monthly or annually to keep up with the latest version on an ongoing basis.
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 18:02:10
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The comparison of updates between different versions of Sonar is irrelevant. The difference in cost is related to the difference in what's included in the Platinum license compared to Pro, which is quite a lot! The OP only has to pay for another year if they want all the latest monthly updates.
I think the OP is looking at this from the wrong direction. You are paying for a license, not updates. Most software you purchase one time and get free updates that are released within one year of your purchase. After that one year period if you want to upgrade to the latest version you have to purchase a new license again (often getting a discounted upgrade fee) - that's the standard, traditional model.
I guess (at least I see that so) the question is from different angle... The confusion comes from old CW practice: almost all old bundled plug-ins was not locked to particular Sonar, not even to CW products; the difference between Pro/Plat upgrades was ~$50 (one time even dropped to 0); people have payed for something which already exist (or at least planned...), not "up front" for something unknown (with the only promise "you knows us, it will be good..."). For the "fist time upgrader" that is even more questionable. Before (original purchase) the price was for existing product and 12 month updates to it. "Upgrade" is just for the next 12 month updates. And so I think such questions are valid and have nothing to do with "aggression" and "attitude". There is no official clarification what you loose when "downgrading", which could avoid the discussion.
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/11 20:41:31
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Hi Neil,
I'm not sure how steam works, but usually if you have paid at least 12 consecutive months on Platinum, you own it. If that is the case with you, then I suggest sitting out the updates for awhile. (Presumably) you already own Platinum so have the full featured product and will only miss updates/features from here on out.
A few months from now, you can look at the new things offered and see if they're enough to justify jumping back on the update wagon. Plus, you never know when CW will offer another discount for Sonar upgrades -- or even better, the lifetime upgrade deal (You never know, it could happen!).
Bottom line, don't feel like you have to do something right at this minute. Sounds to me like that's exactly what you're doing, and as a result are forcing a downgrade on yourself just to keep getting updates. You do know you can stop at any time, and (assuming you own Platinum) can use the Sonar you own while you decide on your next course of action?
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/12 10:26:44
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You are paying for a license, not updates. Most software you purchase one time and get free updates that are released within one year of your purchase.
When you renew rolling updates - that is what you are paying for. What do I expect in the 12 months to come - anything worth like said here $250 for that year alone? That is 50% of new price - and even Steinberg having agressive pricing has lowered this to about $25%. I'm sure Platinum is worth every cent for those wanting the particular brands of everything in the package - plenty content more to say the least. It's $300 more than Professional - and the big part is content as I see it. Those extra features are not close to resemble that price. It's content. And once you own that - why pay for that again? And Cakewalk do a good job in hiding what a consumer is in for - when i comes to renewal!!!!!I think some consumer rights organizations knowing legislation might have something to say about that. All info you get is from perspective of what you own - which in a way may be relevant. But looking at what I am in for in future - to renew - I am completely in the dark. I even went with a another browser, not logged in, and I could not see what rolling updates would cost in future. You are asked to login in first. It's only after purchase you have any idea what it will cost to stay current. It's obvious Cakewalk only provide sales points - not as it used to, also clearly saying what it cost to stay current. Even Avid do this for ProTools, say what renewals cost - bad Cakewalk and even dishonest, poor judgement(not the first time). I have to go on what is said in this thread - $250 annual cost to stay current on Platinum. That is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overpriced in my view. First lifetime free updates getting Platinum - and now 50% of new price each year to stay current.Again - Cakewalk is shooting in the dark still - for the policy to keep. I understand it's not a sales point in saying you have to pay 50% of purchase price again - next year. It's probably legal though withholding that info. But is it good customer policy that they get pissed off after a year? Buying a daw is not like buying a plugin, as I see it.....plugins do one single thing that you want and not so considering if this will be updated again....but a daw is really different in this perspective always needing new features....all IMHO of course. Why not - make all rolling updates $75 annually - for Artist, Pro or Platinum.Keep differences offering more to Platinum than Pro, and Pro gets more than Artist.Having Platinum you get the most for that money - a very good reason to take the plunge.And no penalty for doing it - just getting more for they money feeling good about it - (not getting pissed off for sure). Artist there as excellent daw with most things you need for very reasonable cost. But annual updates are higher in comparison to new price, so you feel you might invest a bit more and getting more moneys worth. Many of the entry level software products on market do it like that - having rather high price getting next version. About 75% of new price doing an upgrade. All video editors I looked at are like that - Adobe, Cyberlink, Nero, Corel etc. I can't say what is better business - maybe Cake do well as it is now - or until current policy been for a full year....and starting threads like this one.
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Re: Yearly upgrades.
2017/07/12 13:09:21
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scookTry searching the help for "Platinum only" to see the features and plug-ins exclusive to Platinum.
maybe time to update that comparison chart methinks...
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