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Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ...

I run Sonar 8.5.3 64:
 
I've got to shop for a new one ... my RME ff400 is causing BSODs with latest drivers (on several computers).
 
Please recommend.  Money is no object, I already have excellent pre's for guitar and vocs so the interface need not have phantom power.
 
... but I'd hope to get a sweet USB (preferably not firewire nor PCI) sound interface; thank you for your thoughts.

Philip  
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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/07/31 23:02:52 (permalink)
    I use a USB 2.0 Multimix8 preamp by Alesis, and its treated me very well. You can get the Multimix16 model too.

    Only thing that I dislike about it is that you have to email Alesis for the 64 bit drivers, because they are not on the website, but other than that its worked wonders for me (it has phantom power, though).

    My new laptop has USB 3.0, so im waiting for a new model to come out :]
    apparently USB 3.0 is 6x faster than firewire :0
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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/07/31 23:05:45 (permalink)
    I have FF800 and had problem with Win7 64 until I back-graded both drivers and firmware - now runs flawlessly ...
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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 00:03:37 (permalink)
    i love my vs-100. Flawless

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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 10:57:43 (permalink)
    Hi Philip,
     
    FWIW, Don't throw the baby out with the bath water... (so to speak)
     
    You've experienced some problems with the FF...  but they are fantastic units.
    Assuming yours is in proper working order (not defective), it's not ruining motherboards/controllers/etc. 
    First thing I'd do is have RME swap out your unit.
    Then, I'd go back to your DAW... and test all the core hardware.  If that checks out OK, add a good PCI/e TI chipset FW controller.
    You may need to roll back a driver/firmware version... if the latest driver is causing problems.  FWIW, That happens occasionally with many different audio interfaces.
     
    You've got a great audio interface.  No need to look for something else...
    Rather, spend some time trouble-shooting... and get your FF working.  In the end, you'll be glad you did.

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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 11:33:44 (permalink)
    Mine is the V-Studio 700 http://garrigus.com/?VStudio700

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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 12:26:14 (permalink)
    garrigus


    Mine is the V-Studio 700 http://garrigus.com/?VStudio700

    still not shipped it huh?

    I am having issue with my ozone + win7, but gonna have to investigate if it's their new drivers..
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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 13:21:25 (permalink)
    Fog: Ozone + win7 64 bit has worked fine for me (other than a little latency and confusing it with the 32-bit version.

    Garrigus: I'd love to get my hands on the V$studio 700 for a partial rebate seeing I have S8.5.3.

    Jim Roseberry (and MatsonBox):  My RME FF400 is a strongly suspected motherboard destroyer (at least 3 of mine);
    ... and RME tech support has failed 5-10 times for me.  (I'm in the US). 

    ... I spent the time troubleshooting with Dell (chipset, etc.). 
    ... Heck, every time I turn on/off the RME FF400, a bolt blows the speakers! 
    ... The problem was worsened by the latest firmwear drivers.
    (I will try, again, to have "RME swap out the unit" ... but I'm not holding my breath (from past experience with RME!))

    MiykPace:  That's the other thing; USB 3.  Firewire is obsolete!  But emailing for drivers is just weird for me.  The USB 2.0 Multimix8 preamp by Alesis, etc. I'll research.

    I'm strongly considering cw's UA 101 ($500) ... a safe-humble option (I'm certain my ears won't tell the difference!)

    WHYZ: Thanks again for chiming.  I will definitely research the vs-100.

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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 13:35:46 (permalink)
    Fog


    garrigus


    Mine is the V-Studio 700 http://garrigus.com/?VStudio700

    still not shipped it huh?

    Nope, you'll have to come here and pick it up. Shipping costs too much these days.

    Scott

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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 13:40:50 (permalink)
    I'm still using the same 'ole Frontier Dakota card that Jim Roseberry sold me many years ago.  It's been through Win 98, Win Me, Win XP and now Win 7 x64.

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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 14:11:35 (permalink)
    Philip


    Fog: Ozone + win7 64 bit has worked fine for me (other than a little latency and confusing it with the 32-bit version.



    it was getting a bit confused with 16 / 24 bit I noticed so far, but VST wise.. I've noticed it popping (junglist and a few more) ... even upping the buffers , well didn't sort it..

    I might try it in WDM I guess, but I'd prefer to use asio.


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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 14:55:20 (permalink)
    M-Audio Fast Track Ultra 8R.

    Im running 7.0 (lol) on W7 x64, works great.

    It's got phantom power and MIDI, but still a good unit in my mind.

    I really like M-Audio because of all the post-purchase support you get with them, like driver updates and lots of documentation.  Line 6 was the complete opposite.

    Their software is pretty cool too.  If you want, go ahead and download the driver for the interface.  You dont actually need the hardware to be able to play with the software and get a feel for it (unlike some other brands). 

    http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=support.drivers&f=1065 
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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 15:46:05 (permalink)
    garrigus


    Fog


    garrigus


    Mine is the V-Studio 700 http://garrigus.com/?VStudio700

    still not shipped it huh?

    Nope, you'll have to come here and pick it up. Shipping costs too much these days.

    Scott




    So I guess I'll have to wait for Fog to pick it up, so he can send it, man!!

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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 15:48:44 (permalink)
    alexoosthoek


    garrigus


    Fog


    garrigus


    Mine is the V-Studio 700 http://garrigus.com/?VStudio700

    still not shipped it huh?

    Nope, you'll have to come here and pick it up. Shipping costs too much these days.

    Scott




    So I guess I'll have to wait for Fog to pick it up, so he can send it, man!!

    Everybody wants to get their hands on my V-Studio 700!

    Scott

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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 15:51:29 (permalink)
    I want power fly fishing more to be honest.. but I figure the 700 is more probable :)


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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 15:51:55 (permalink)
    Out of curiosity, knowing that I'll eventually have to upgrade to Windows 7, I just checked and it seems that there are drivers for my good old Delta 44. 

    Still running XP and I don't plan on switching OS before a while, but at least, I know that I've got that covered, which is nice cos' I know they took a long time to support Vista.
    Pretty much like Dave and his Dakota, I've ran this thing under 98, 2000 and XP - basically for the last 10 years, throughout which I remember having problems w/ drivers only once. 


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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 16:14:06 (permalink)
    Fog


    I want power fly fishing more to be honest.. but I figure the 700 is more probable :)





    BTW: I have TC electronic Desktop Konnekt 6 working perfectly well with Win7 64 bit.
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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 16:29:12 (permalink)
    Konnekt 24D runs smoothly.

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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 16:36:06 (permalink)
    OK, I'm glad there are so many non-fireface users with cheer.  That should ease my going to USB 2.0 a bit ... regardless of the options.  I'll certainly research every one of your diverse sound interfaces.

    Thanks so much all!

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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 16:42:12 (permalink)
    I must admit I do have a FF800 too, not using it with Win 7 though.
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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 17:26:23 (permalink)
    Never had problems with my Fireface UC.

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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 17:35:25 (permalink)
    M-Audio Fast Track Ultra (the desktop unit).  Mighty fine!  And mighty fast.

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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 17:38:52 (permalink)
    What's with all the dis'n on FF800/400 ? These are some of the best units period ever, anywhere near their price ranges ...I'm stumped?
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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 19:26:55 (permalink)
    Thanks Manolo, Yorolpal, and AlexOostHoek,

    The USB ff UC boasts better than the ff 400 ... but I wouldn't pay 1/2 the asking price ($1300) for that ... also, USB 2.0 peripherals may be rushing into extinction just like 400 and 800 firewire ...
    Frankly, RME makes no sen$e to me!

    Sorry MatsonMusicBox, even if my FF400 worked sweetly, I doubt my ears could ever discriminate any differences in double-blind studies.  What is really so great about my FF 400, "period" anyway?  Please, I detect histeria and/or 'expectation bias' may be the rea$on for the ridiculous RME hype that abounds on these forums.

    Also, your/my next DAW, Lord-willing, will contain USB 3.0 peripherals (3-6 months from now?).

    This makes some sen$e:

    The M-Audio Fast Track Ultra: $284 (street) or Ultra 8R for $130 more.

    Konnekt 24D: firewire at $400 street ... but may be extinct soon (it is extinct on laptops).  At least its not $1500.

    Desktop Konnekt 6 Firewire: $189 street ... performance oriented with desktop knobs ... but not enough inputs (I need guitar, mic, and MIDI-Synth inputs).

    Delta 44: $129 ... but its a PCI soundcard that may or may not fit my Alienware.

    V-Studio 700 Rack + Fantom synths:  Special Order: $1800 without the generic sliders.  usb 2.0  ... but alas
    ... I already own a Fantom-8 workstation with nearly as many obsolete patches.
    ... IOWs, my Fantom patches don't compare (AT ALL) to BiaB audiophiile edition patches (1.2 terabytes at $680) nor EWQL samplers ($700 for composer edition, now IIRC)
    ... sorry Roland, your Fantom patches are ridiculously obsolete for my home studio. 
    And fortunately, BiaB plug-in mode (32 bit) works fine above 64 bit Sonar... dropping MIDIs and CD quality wave files into Sonar, seemlessly.  (another topic)
    In sum, for me, the v studio 700 is a no buy, period.

    cw VS 100:  $600.  with desktop performance controls ... and a seperate portable stereo recorder (with SD card memory)! ... IIRC, humble EQ and compression, FWIW.
    That means I can unplug it and record the choir, etc.
    Its buggish, IIRC, having "controller" issues I'm afraid: http://forum.cakewalk.com/tt.aspx?forumid=47
    But, WHYZ (above) validates his interface.

    UA-101 Pro: $500, with 5 stereo inputs (whole band) ... which I'm assuming is 64bit also.

    MOTU UltraLite MK3 Firewire USB Hybrid $549, Wow!

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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 19:49:01 (permalink)
    I'm all about LATENCY, and I think I'm correct by say PCI is the way to go, I had a DELTA 1010LT and loved it until it was stolen. Whats wrong with PCI, it's the most direct, just like having it on the motherboard.

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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 19:49:50 (permalink)
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    What's with all the dis'n on FF800/400 ? These are some of the best units period ever, anywhere near their price ranges ...I'm stumped?

    I'm not sure either.
     
    I've used my FF400 through two Dell systems (XPS 400 and XPS 420) and three OS's (Win XP 32/64, Vista 64 and Win7 64) without issues.
     
    The FireFace units are among the BEST at their price range.  Then again, 100% customer satisfaction doesn't exist with any product.
     
    Hope the OP gets his issue sorted either with a new FF800 or a new interface.
     
     
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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 21:20:28 (permalink)
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    I'm all about LATENCY, and I think I'm correct by say PCI is the way to go, I had a DELTA 1010LT and loved it until it was stolen. Whats wrong with PCI, it's the most direct, just like having it on the motherboard.


    Why is it about latency? I use no/little soft synths and latency is not an issue period with direct monitoring in audio. I disagree. From my perspective ... latency has NOTHING to do with it!
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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 21:47:11 (permalink)
    But for those of us who use a ton of soft synths and efx...it's ALL about latency.  Take your blinders off Matson ;-)

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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 23:14:34 (permalink)
    yorolpal


    But for those of us who use a ton of soft synths and efx...it's ALL about latency.  Take your blinders off Matson ;-)


    I was being facetious ... guess it didn't come thru so well ....
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    Re:Your Audio interface for Win7 64 ... 2010/08/01 23:43:02 (permalink)
    Sorry, ol pal.

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