Johnbee58
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"Your Spell" Jazz Ballad Style Original
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Re: "Your Spell" Jazz Ballad Style Original
2015/01/19 19:10:08
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I don't listen to jazz but this sounded good.
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Re: "Your Spell" Jazz Ballad Style Original
2015/01/19 21:02:21
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It was hard to listen to John? Not commenting on the singing, I could, but I won't. I'm commenting on the mix and production. As a rule, vocals down the middle, everything else spread at least a bit. And the vox seem to need some compression and or ride the fader a bit. To me, they were there, and then they weren't, and viola, there they were again. But aside from the technical aspect, you may want to consider a singer who you could direct regarding what you're looking for in the performance (no disrespect, I'm just sayin...) H-
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Johnbee58
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Re: "Your Spell" Jazz Ballad Style Original
2015/01/19 21:27:10
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It was a mistake to put this up. I'm sorry. Is the singing really that bad?
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Jablowmi19
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Re: "Your Spell" Jazz Ballad Style Original
2015/01/19 22:34:16
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Hey, we can all sing, different people do it differently. And I'm sure you have many talents? I'm just recommending that you work with a singer. Some people play guitar really well? Some play the bass or keys really well, some people are good singers. Different people have different strong suits, there's a string/fiddle player named Scotty who posts here? He's "unbelievable..." Some are writers, some are engineers. We all get by with a little help from our friends. Again, I meant no disrespect. The current performance can be improved with compression, and perhaps comping.
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Re: "Your Spell" Jazz Ballad Style Original
2015/01/19 22:46:44
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Not a mistake to put this up. I get the feeling the whole point of this place is for people to share what they are trying to do! The song has some interesting chords, some remind me of Rachmaninoff! and the arrangement is pretty together. I'm not a good enough vocalist to criticise, but I can tell you might want to take some of the huuuuuuuge leaps out of the melody line. Too large are the interval jumps, they would make even a great singer nervous. If you are in love with the melody you've got here, then sing it twelve times and select the best bits and cobble it all together (a.k.a. "comping") . . . then do it all again for the double track. Add reverb to taste. Voila! But I think the melody line could stand some revising to get rid of the leaps across the Grand Canyon of intervals. nice job, thanks for the share! -Tom
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Jablowmi19
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Re: "Your Spell" Jazz Ballad Style Original
2015/01/20 00:11:20
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yeah, I tried to tell him the same thing via PMs? But he doesn't accept criticism well... In fact, "not at all." But everybody can't rock. That's OK, but people should understand their limitations? There's a reason I'm not an underwear model...
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Re: "Your Spell" Jazz Ballad Style Original
2015/01/20 00:13:46
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I agree with emerald. It would be a greater mistake to not post. Feedback is so important, even if you disagree you still think.
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Re: "Your Spell" Jazz Ballad Style Original
2015/01/20 00:19:55
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I've reported Jablomi19 for abuse. He seems to get off sending me numerous PMs with link of him singing and telling me "this is how it's done". THAT'S constructive criticism? Where's HIS Grammies? Who is he to put it to me that way?! He's no more of a professional that I am. Damned right I won't post here anymore. Not a very friendly crowd here afterall.
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Re: "Your Spell" Jazz Ballad Style Original
2015/01/20 00:21:24
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Yes, take input from others, without complaining? I found out how to turn off PMs Yeah! So regardless of how bad it sucks? Post it, and look for feedback. It can always be improved, especially in certain cases (Ssssshhhhh this one...)
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Re: "Your Spell" Jazz Ballad Style Original
2015/01/20 00:29:14
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Gentlemen, please forgive me! I really should be ashamed of myself as it really is such a privilege to be in the midst of such fine performers and artists as Jablowmi19! My mistake. I thought this was an amateur forum. I really don't belong among such talent as this. He's right. I suck and he's just so wonderfully talented. I think I'll keep my trashy pieces of s**t off of the internet from now on.
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Re: "Your Spell" Jazz Ballad Style Original
2015/01/20 00:47:52
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Well... There are many "very" talented people here? But there are many, and yes, sometimes if you need improvement? Someone may point that out? So either grow a thicker skin? Or practice? The choice is yours ;-) **Please note, "Neither" is not an option? I'm thinking a thicker skin is probably best for you? But there's still hope if you practice, and there's always Melodyne? Don't give up yet!
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Johnbee58
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Re: "Your Spell" Jazz Ballad Style Original
2015/01/20 00:55:34
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Look. You can just give up now. OK? You've convinced me that I'm just a talentless POS and everything I've ever done is a joke. Seriously. I guess I'd better try to find another hobby, because I sure as f**k can't make music and I can't sing either. Music's been my passion since I can remember but I can't seem to make it well. Maybe I should just give up on everything. Thanks for your honesty. Really. It's time I face the truth.
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Jablowmi19
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Re: "Your Spell" Jazz Ballad Style Original
2015/01/20 01:02:47
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Thank you for accepting your limitations. They are many, and varied. The truth can be an evil and unforgiving mistress. However, she can also be a gentle lover if you get to know her? I propose that you invite her to dinner... Once you begin a dialog? Who knows where it will go from there? What is important is to remember, "we can all be better?" All of us. And to begin with a point of view that, "Here it is, it's the best I can do, and it damn well better be good enough!" Well, it's a bad place from which to start? (not saying that's where you started) I personally am not a mixing or mastering guru, there are many here? What is important is to accept that we're all "here" and we're all trying to get to "there" And the sooner you accept that you're "here" and trying to get "there" the better off you'll be, everyone can improve? All of us. Very few are "there..." We speak their names in hushed tones... But it's best to accept that most of us suck? And could use improvement. And all advice is not good, but some of it is?
post edited by Jablowmi19 - 2015/01/20 01:31:26
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Re: "Your Spell" Jazz Ballad Style Original
2015/01/20 01:40:41
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I for one have been working on a mix for 6+ weeks? (several hours a day...) It's a pop song that my son wants to sing. I did "the best that I could" but it's still not as good as it could be. It's the nature of the beast. We make it as good as we can. I hope your next is as good as it can be. But if you cannot accept advice/constructive criticism? You will never be good... Understand that "it's a public forum?" And if it's not good? And you don't like hearing that? Well... God's speed, to somewhere else? :-) My advice to you is to "suck less." Or not at all? That would be even better. (report that)
post edited by Jablowmi19 - 2015/01/20 02:05:21
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Re: "Your Spell" Jazz Ballad Style Original
2015/01/20 08:06:02
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☄ Helpfulby dcumpian 2015/01/21 10:51:10
Johnbee58 I've reported Jablomi19 for abuse. He seems to get off sending me numerous PMs with link of him singing and telling me "this is how it's done". THAT'S constructive criticism? Where's HIS Grammies? Who is he to put it to me that way?! He's no more of a professional that I am. Damned right I won't post here anymore. Not a very friendly crowd here afterall.
Don't judge the rest of us by the actions of one person. Put your song back up, there are plenty of people here with constructive advice for you.
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Johnbee58
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Re: "Your Spell" Jazz Ballad Style Original
2015/01/20 08:35:06
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I just want the thread deleted. I can't put the song back up because I took it down from the internet.
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Re: "Your Spell" Jazz Ballad Style Original
2015/01/20 09:19:03
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I did not get a chance to hear your posted song - but just wanted to encourage you to post your efforts here - some feedback will be constructive and some will be not so much. My advice would be to take from it what helps, and ignore what does not. Bob Bone
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Re: "Your Spell" Jazz Ballad Style Original
2015/01/20 09:39:44
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The OP has asked for this thread to be deleted I will be locking it for now.
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