Z3TA+2 2.0.95 and Rapture Pro 2.0.3.96 installer issues (and Sonar itself as well)

This post is about the installer.


If I run Z3TA+2 verbose from CCC (upgrading):
 
1) I get a greyed out file path option and browse button (can't edit) for "D:\Cakewalk Content" which is incorrect it should be "D:\Cakewalk Content\Z3TA+ 2".
 
2) After (1) when I click Next it states it's going to install it into " D:\Cakewalk Content (Programs and Presets)". Wrong again. Regardless it does install to D:\Cakewalk Content\Z3TA+ 2
 
3) Whilst the install mentions where the application should be installed (C:\Program Files etc) and above, it makes NO mention about where the VST is going (guessing game!). It does however install to where I would expect (in my case: "D:\AudioPlugIns\64bit\Z3TA+ 2").
 
Also note the only way to install 32 bit VST is to run CCC verbose, hopefully this might help somebody.
 
Heck this is confusing !!!

Thx.

Midiboy
I wonder if this is why I'm having trouble.  I had 2.1 installed.  Now that I upgraded, none of my previous projects will load without error.  I had to go back to 2.1.

I'd say unlikely as the it's still installing OK to the correct areas (at least for me), it's just that the installer itself is reporting false information during upgrading via verbose mode.
 
Having said that I still haven't run it,I have just installed it. The main thing I would strongly recommend is check all the fields in CCC settings (esp file paths) AND your VST file paths in Sonar.

Here's exactly the same issue with Rapture Pro
 
1) Observe program and presets (greyed out) is going to be installed apparently to:
"D:\Cakewalk Content", and multisamples to "D:\Cakewalk Content\Rapture Pro". No mention of VST path.
 

 
2) Click next, surprise the files paths have changed to "D:\Cakewalk Content (Programs and Presets)" and "D:\Cakewalk Content\Rapture Pro (Multisamples)"
 
3) Regardless they get installed in the right place (well perhaps??), again a completely different file path than stated, somewhere under "D:\Cakewalk Content\Rapture Pro" it appears, but where specifically under that remains a mystery 
 
Come on chaps!!! Really?
 
 

Just to add to the confusion, Z3TA+2 shows 2.2.0.0 in the about screen (not 2.2.0.95), the DLL file details shows 2.2.095 and the EXE does not show anything at all.
 
Rapture Pro however shows 2.00.3.96 in the about screen, the DLL shows 2.0.3.96, and again the EXE shows nothing at all.
 
Thanks..

Doktor Avalanche
 
Can we please sort out these installers! Thx...

Optimistic don't you think ?. . .  Cakewalk installers and installs have always been a mess/messy, as you would know yourself, even today. Before I bailed out to move on to much greener pastures, I think I recall having multiple Cakewalk Content folders strewn about my hard drives, why ? because an update to the magnificent Cakewalk Command Center changed my settings/locations, then of course when you try to change it back you are greeted with a message saying that doing so could cause 'bad things' to happen In no other software that I use, and the list is long and distinguished, do I have to worry about going in and checking settings, making sure that they haven't been changed, NO other software. Then you have the mess caused by DIM Pro and Rapture , Z3TA 2 etc (not to mention expansion packs), files from a** hole to breakfast. No other software that I use, and again the list is long and distinguished, do I have to bother with registry hacks, symbolic links etc etc to have things installed where I want them to be. With other software it is a straight forward matter, you just double click the installer, tell it where you want things installed, and it actually installs it where you instructed it to . . . fancy that, who would have thought ?
 
Not to mention having to re download and install everything again when there was a change to the magnificent Command Center, so as everything would align itself correctly with that fantastic piece of engineering, then along comes Rapture Pro's latest update, re download and install everything again, not knowing whether or not you will end up with duplicates of the files God knows where, or whether the folder structure from the previous Rapture Pro install (multisamples etc) will remain intact, and perhaps it's just the way Rapture Pro references these that has changed or something. How about getting things right the first time, other developers seem to be able to do it without all this BS.
 
I thought about reinstalling Rapture Pro to see if the latest update actually did fix things like volume balance and silent patches, which of course a cake employee stated were fixed in a previous update (search and you will find), of course we all know they were not, and the admission of this has come with the latest update where they say these things are now fixed (again). I re thought installing Rapture Pro again, thank you, but no thank you, compared to other 3rd party stuff, it's not worth the hassle and not that good anyway.
 
Installations of Cakewalk Products have always been like this, and as long as users just keep bending over and taking it, nothing will change. And before the mouth frothing fanbois come in and say it isn't true, (or perhaps blaming it on some 3rd party plugin or something . . . lol ) not only do I have this . . .
                       

 
(never leave home without it kiddies)
 
but look around, smell the roses, get real and at least admit it, nothing I am saying here is untrue, read the numerous posts on these very forums, about these very issues, from the past right through to today, it's still happening, and it will continue to happen as long as everyone just keeps bending over and taking it, only to say 'great update cake, well done' Look at the crap from the last round of updates, it's not well done, it's 2 steps forward 1 step back, or perhaps 1 step forward 2 steps back, and while another magnificent thing to come with the new subscription model (YES IT IS) the mighty 'Roll Back' exists, I agree with others around the net, that it is just a license to release half baked buggy software (New Start Screen etc etc, do the search yourself, it's staring you right in the face right here on these very forums), 'if it doesn't work for you . . . just roll back, find the least objectionable version . . . all cool . . . yay, man this rocks'
 
Other developers can do it, no reason why you shouldn't expect the same.