Z3TA+2.2.1 now available

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2015/12/22 12:28:48 (permalink)

Z3TA+2.2.1 now available

Hello Z3TA+ 2 users. We have an update now available that resolves the issues that many were running into regarding loading older projects containing the 2.1 version. We have also added the ability for Offline Authorization as well. (Coming soon to Rapture Pro & Session)
 
You can see the full list of changes here:
http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013440/Z3TA-2-2-1-Update
 
If you are a SONAR user running the VST2 of versions 2.1 or 2.2 we'd like for you to update Z3TA+ 2 before loading projects in the Lexington update. Lexington now supports Synth VST3 migration and doing so will ensure your projects load correctly when updating to Lexington.
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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2015/12/22 13:41:01 (permalink)
    thx...I actually updated Sonar Plat before reading this and can verify an older session with several instances of Z3ta 2 is working fine.
    Thanks and happy holidays.

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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2015/12/22 13:46:41 (permalink)
    Thank you for the quick feedback!
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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2015/12/22 16:33:14 (permalink)
    Still can't see the waveforms in the menus. Had the same bug in 2.2.
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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2015/12/22 16:33:23 (permalink)
     
    It would be nice if we could install this vst in our regular vstplugins folder (I've given up for the moment moving my vst3 folder off of C).  Had to move everything myself and edit the registry as no option is provided in the installer, only for content (and thanks at least for that). 
     
    Other than that, and at first glance it seems to work properly.  What happened to the previous intro patch ?
     
     

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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2015/12/22 16:53:46 (permalink)
    Still not working activation through CCC 1.1.2.2 Win 10 (offline also). As I realized - I have to update through Steam.
    But if so, someone from Cakewalk PLEASE remove new Z3TA+ 2.2 (with second serial number) from my "connected" products list in CCC and site account. It useless there.
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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2015/12/22 22:09:47 (permalink)
    I installed the new version of zeta +2 and then Lexington.  When I opened my projects, I got a popup "Error uncompressing saved program!".  I noticed I got one popup per instance of Z3TA in each project.  I closed out each popup and then the project loaded.  However, then I noticed that every instance of Z3TA did not load the correct program.  So I opened each instance of Z3TA and re-selected the correct program, saved the project, and reopened the project with no errors.  However, as soon as I did another project save, closed the project, and reopened it, all that came undone and I was back to the same popup error.  I've been able to workaround the problem by deleting all the Z3TA synth instances and reinstating each instance again in every project, which was a major pain. 
     
    Also, I used to be able to do program changes in Z3TA from an external midi synth by sending it a program change but that hasn't worked since this upgrade and the prior upgrade. To change a program I have to open the Z3TA panel, choose the program, and save the project for it to stick.
    post edited by craigr68 - 2015/12/22 22:22:39
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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2015/12/23 08:16:35 (permalink)
    I need to download it manually I guess - its in my account but not in CCC (I bought it in 2012).
     
    Can't find a link anywhere to the update, even in my account.Does it exist as a manual upgrade ?
     
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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2015/12/23 09:19:48 (permalink)
    joakes
    I need to download it manually I guess - its in my account but not in CCC (I bought it in 2012).
     
    Can't find a link anywhere to the update, even in my account.Does it exist as a manual upgrade ?
     
    Cheers,
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    If Z3TA+ 2 shows in your account page, but not in Command Center, I'd suggest contacting our Support team, and they'll be able to take care of that for you. 
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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2015/12/23 09:24:47 (permalink)
    @craigr: This is very concerning, we had worked hard to try and get a fix for all those cases so I'm sorry you had to go through that. For what it's worth, if you ever have to do that in the future you can save your programs as .fxp files and they should load in the new version. 
     
    Still, we tried to be very careful about that specific case, where 2.1 projects saved by an earlier version of Sonar were being loaded by Z3TA+ 2.2.1 in Lexington... 
     
    I'm confident you did the upgrade process correctly, but just to make me feel better can you check the version number in Z3TA+ 2's about screen? You open it by clicking the logo in the top left corner, it should be 2.2.1. 
     
    Edit:
    Also, was this project coming from 2.1? Or was it coming from 2.2, our previous recent release?
    post edited by John Joseph [Cakewalk] - 2015/12/23 09:48:28
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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2015/12/23 09:51:39 (permalink)
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    @craigr: This is very concerning, we had worked hard to try and get a fix for all those cases so I'm sorry you had to go through that. For what it's worth, if you ever have to do that in the future you can save your programs as .fxp files and they should load in the new version. 
     
    Still, we tried to be very careful about that specific case, where 2.1 projects saved by an earlier version of Sonar were being loaded by Z3TA+ 2.2.1 in Lexington... 
     
    I'm confident you did the upgrade process correctly, but just to make me feel better can you check the version number in Z3TA+ 2's about screen? You open it by clicking the logo in the top left corner, it should be 2.2.1. 
     
    Edit:
    Also, was this project coming from 2.1? Or was it coming from 2.2, our previous recent release?

    This, right here, is why I have ZERO buyer's remorse for switching from Studio One/PreSonus to SONAR Platinum/Cakewalk.
     
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    Never happened once that I noticed on the PreSonus forums. If the Trumpmeister really wants to build an effective wall, he could do worse than benchmark the wall PreSonus have built between themselves and their customers.
     
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    post edited by TheMaartian - 2015/12/23 10:04:38

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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2015/12/23 10:16:46 (permalink)
    Z3TA +2 about screen shows 2.2.1
     
    I'm fairly new to Sonar so could have been something unique to me.  I bought Z3TA 2 on Nov 5, 2015 and installed the manual download.  Then later I discovered it in CCC and upgraded to the next version (assume that was 2.1).  Then yesterday upgraded to 2.2.1 (CCC shows version 2.2.1.114).  Anyway I got everything fixed by doing what I said above. 
     
    Can anyone tell me if Z3TA 2 responds to Midi Prog Changes from an external Midi keyboard or do you have to go into the Z3TA screen to choose a program.  I'm sure the first version I installed worked for me with Midi kybd program changes, but not now.
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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2015/12/23 10:43:21 (permalink)
    I am facing an issue regarding the patch change from keyboard.
    Just now I have updated to 2.2.1.
    Once loaded I tried to change the patch by Up-Down-Left-Right-PgUp-PgDn.
    Patch change is not happening.
    Now after I click the Right Pointer beside Patch name and it "GotFocus" then Down arrow changes to the next patch.
    Once I click on any other control/area on the window and the marker "lostFocus" no patch changes occurs.
    Again if I click on the Right Marker both Up and Down changes patch to the next one.
    Same behavior for the left marker. Once it "GotFocus" both Up & Down changes patch to the previous one.
    The patch changes are not limited within the patches of the same category. Once it reaches the first or the last patch the it takes to the previous/next bank depending on which marker [left/right] is in focus.
     
    Wish it would be like PgUp/PgDn will change the bank and Up/Down or Left/Right with change the patch.
     
    Regarding other controls in focus:
    Rotary : Up/Down - on-key-press - large increment/decrement
    Left/Right - on_key_press - small increment
    If this is the desired functionality then Patch changes cannot be done by Left/Right/Up/Down as most of the cases some other control might be in focus.
    Also regarding Slider controls:
    the value reaches on_key_release not continuous as for rotary and it jumps to the final value depending on the duration I keep the Key_pressed.
     
    Am I doing anything wrong?
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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2015/12/23 10:58:13 (permalink)
    WRT midi and program changes, you have to right click the button you're interested in and press Midi Learn, then press the midi control you'd like to associate with that. It can be a slider for knobs or a button for buttons (I think you can do a slider for buttons too but it's a little weird...)
     
    Working on my end, anyway. In terms of key presses I think it's just whatever the last control you touched gets modified by the up-down arrows. Was that working differently for you before Z3TA+ 2.2? 
     
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    post edited by John Joseph [Cakewalk] - 2015/12/23 11:12:55
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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2015/12/23 11:51:02 (permalink)
    Spencer
    Still can't see the waveforms in the menus. Had the same bug in 2.2.


    i can confirm this problem.  No waveform previews in drop down menus.  I tried various resolution settings.  No dice.

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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2015/12/23 11:54:39 (permalink)
    Is this the latest version?  Z3TA 2.2.1.113
     

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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2015/12/23 12:27:11 (permalink)
    John Joseph [Cakewalk]
    WRT midi and program changes, you have to right click the button you're interested in and press Midi Learn, then press the midi control you'd like to associate with that. It can be a slider for knobs or a button for buttons (I think you can do a slider for buttons too but it's a little weird...)
     
    Working on my end, anyway. In terms of key presses I think it's just whatever the last control you touched gets modified by the up-down arrows. Was that working differently for you before Z3TA+ 2.2? 
     
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    It was same before. When I had noticed by that time 2.2.1 had been announced to be out shortly. So I didn't make any post.
    If up/down/Left/Right all affect the focused control can't we have another two keys may be PgUp/PgDn for chaning patches quickly. Also even when Right/Left Markers are in focus to change patch both Up/Down behaves same either patch.no=patch.no+1 or patch.no=patch.no-1
    Thanks for replying.
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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2015/12/23 15:21:39 (permalink)
    Wow, what service, thanks Josh !!!
     
    Downloading it now !!!
     
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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2015/12/23 16:12:47 (permalink)
    More about program changes.  I am now using the up & down on my computer keyboard to audition sounds which is 1/2 of what I was trying to do.  Thanks Snehankur and John Joseph.  Midi Learn works for a controller but I can't get a program change from a Midi keyboard to change Z3TA sounds.
     
    To be clear about what I'm trying to do - I'm trying to take a MIDI keyboard, and for simplicity sake, send a program change to a Z3TA track and have it change the program.  I have a Z3TA instrument track set to the correct Midi channel.  Even if you take the track settings and set the drop down Patch to some number, Z3TA does not switch programs.  You have to open up Z3TA and choose a program and save the project.  But this limits you to one sound per track.  
     
    A few weeks ago I took all the provided Sonar Pro virtual synths and tested which ones will respond to MIDI program changes.  Initially TTS-1 and Z3TA worked well but all others did not - that last 2 updates to Z3TA do not work in this way.  So I get around it by creating multiple track/instances and assigning whatever MIDI channel and sound is needed.  If I want to change a program on one of the synths, I have to create another track/instance instead of simply sending that track a program change, which is discouraging.  And loading up more unnecessary instances bogs down your computer.  Why are program changes so difficult in Sonar or am I missing something?
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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2015/12/23 17:12:01 (permalink)
    craigr68
    More about program changes.  I am now using the up & down on my computer keyboard to audition sounds which is 1/2 of what I was trying to do.  Thanks Snehankur and John Joseph.  Midi Learn works for a controller but I can't get a program change from a Midi keyboard to change Z3TA sounds.
     
    To be clear about what I'm trying to do - I'm trying to take a MIDI keyboard, and for simplicity sake, send a program change to a Z3TA track and have it change the program.  I have a Z3TA instrument track set to the correct Midi channel.  Even if you take the track settings and set the drop down Patch to some number, Z3TA does not switch programs.  You have to open up Z3TA and choose a program and save the project.  But this limits you to one sound per track.  
     
    A few weeks ago I took all the provided Sonar Pro virtual synths and tested which ones will respond to MIDI program changes.  Initially TTS-1 and Z3TA worked well but all others did not - that last 2 updates to Z3TA do not work in this way.  So I get around it by creating multiple track/instances and assigning whatever MIDI channel and sound is needed.  If I want to change a program on one of the synths, I have to create another track/instance instead of simply sending that track a program change, which is discouraging.  And loading up more unnecessary instances bogs down your computer.  Why are program changes so difficult in Sonar or am I missing something?

    I'd sure like to be able to map my Patch +/- and Bank +/- keys on my P6 to Z3TA, but there's no MIDI Learn. I tend to work with new VIs in standalone mode to begin with (if they support it), so I guess I never tried using my PC's keyboard for program and bank changes. I'd just like to see MIDI Learn for those functions. I guess I don't care what the keyboard shortcuts are (but I should, methinks).

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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2015/12/27 19:30:08 (permalink)
    craigr68
    I installed the new version of zeta +2 and then Lexington.  When I opened my projects, I got a popup "Error uncompressing saved program!".  I noticed I got one popup per instance of Z3TA in each project.  I closed out each popup and then the project loaded.  However, then I noticed that every instance of Z3TA did not load the correct program.  So I opened each instance of Z3TA and re-selected the correct program, saved the project, and reopened the project with no errors.  However, as soon as I did another project save, closed the project, and reopened it, all that came undone and I was back to the same popup error.  I've been able to workaround the problem by deleting all the Z3TA synth instances and reinstating each instance again in every project, which was a major pain. 
     




    I'm experiencing the same problem since I've updated Sonar Platinum to Lexington and Z3ta+2 to 2.2.1.114, complete with thinking that the problem was fixed after selecting the right program again, then save and close again, only to get the error message, "Error uncompressing saved program," again. 
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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2015/12/29 08:45:31 (permalink)
    This Z3ta+2.2.1 issue is a real pain. It is worse now than before the Lexington update. I had fixed the issue by re-installing the 2.1  version. But now I have the "Error uncompressing saved program" message all the times I try to open a project were there in a Z3ta+2  instance. At the beginning,  after the Lexington update it seemed to work correctly but since yesterday it is worse than ever. And for some songs I cannot remember the preset name I had chosen...!
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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2015/12/29 10:04:05 (permalink)
    Tibear
    This Z3ta+2.2.1 issue is a real pain. It is worse now than before the Lexington update. I had fixed the issue by re-installing the 2.1  version. But now I have the "Error uncompressing saved program" message all the times I try to open a project were there in a Z3ta+2  instance. At the beginning,  after the Lexington update it seemed to work correctly but since yesterday it is worse than ever. And for some songs I cannot remember the preset name I had chosen...!




    There are a couple specific scenarios where you might have trouble getting your programs to load with the latest update, but there are ways to work around this. If you're stuck I'd suggest getting a hold of our Tech Support and they can walk you through some things you can try that should get you up and running. Any projects that were saved with Z3TA+ 2.1 should load correctly with the VST3 v2.2.1 in SONAR Lexington however. Likewise with any VST3 instances of 2.2.0. 
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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2016/01/01 01:50:30 (permalink)
    When I try to Update Z3TA+2  2.2.1.114 the Command Center displays a  "Command Center has Stopped working. Close Program" Prompt.   I'm using Command Center Version 1.1.2.2 and it has been working fine for everything else.
    Thanks for any ideas.  Happy New Year!
     
     
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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2016/01/02 03:16:53 (permalink)
    The Steam version is still @ 2.1??

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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2016/01/02 04:30:49 (permalink)

    just a sec

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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2016/01/06 21:57:13 (permalink)
    I am using Sonar Platinum on a 64 bit Windows 10 system using 16 GB of Ram and a 3.5GHz I7 4770.  I had upgraded from Z3ta+2.1 to Z3ta+2.2 and encountered the same issue that many had reported when loading projects containing tracks generated using Z3ta+2.1 after the upgrade to 2.2, so I was very happy when 2.2.1 and Lexington arrived.  I updated Z3ta+2 to 2.2.1 and the updated to Lexington.   After doing so, all of the issues seemed to have been resolved and all of my Z3ta+2 projects worked again as they had before the update to 2.2.  After a couple of weeks, things were still functioning well until Sonar crashed when I was recording a track in a new project.  When this happened, the Error reporter popped up  and when I tried to submit the error, it crashed too.  Since that crash, I have been consistently getting the popup "Error uncompressing saved program".  I close the popup and get another just like it (one for each track that uses Z3ta+2).   After the last popup is closed, the project loads, but the Z3ta+2  tracks   don't play properly, instead they play the original Z3ta+2 presets.  I have tried rebooting, reinstalling the Zeta+2 from CCC, but the problem persists.    I have verified the version and it is 2.2.1 and the Sonar is Sonar Platinum - Lexington.    Any guidance or assistance that anyone could lend would be most welcome as many of my projects are now not functional.
     
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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2016/01/07 02:07:31 (permalink)
    Oh for the days when it was just a simple serial number.  I can't upgrade to the latest version of Z3TA+ because I'm not installing the Cakewalk Command Center. I guess Cakewalk software is dead ended for me.  Not getting on the Sonar treadmill so X3e is the last version. Just too much extra baggage anymore....CCC, Steam. Good luck Cakewalk. Hopefully one day you'll get it sorted and go back to being user friendly....and stable.
    post edited by Teksonik - 2016/01/07 02:22:56
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    Jon Sasor [Cakewalk]
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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2016/01/07 10:10:05 (permalink)
    Teksonik
    Oh for the days when it was just a simple serial number.  I can't upgrade to the latest version of Z3TA+ because I'm not installing the Cakewalk Command Center. I guess Cakewalk software is dead ended for me.  Not getting on the Sonar treadmill so X3e is the last version. Just too much extra baggage anymore....CCC, Steam. Good luck Cakewalk. Hopefully one day you'll get it sorted and go back to being user friendly....and stable.




    Z3TA+ 2.2.1 has offline activation that does not require Command Center.
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    pwalpwal
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    Re: Z3TA+2.2.1 now available 2016/01/07 10:29:05 (permalink)
    Jon Sasor [Cakewalk]


    Z3TA+ 2.2.1 has offline activation that does not require Command Center.


    yay!

    just a sec

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