taqdagger407
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Z3TA+ in Sonar 7
Hey, I'm using sonar 7, and I am really enjoying the capabilities of this version. Exept, on the z3ta+ soft synth, I can only seem to get Bank 0 to correctly work. Bank 0 does have many choices to pick, but there are many other banks to change to. When I use any other bank (1-5 or so) It returns back to bank 0 when I choose to play the file. Although, I can open the z3ta+ console and play the samples from there. Any kind of help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. 
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ChristopherM
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RE: Z3TA+ in Sonar 7
2008/03/23 16:06:57
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Not really sure what you mean by "Bank 0", because z3ta+ has banks A through F, and C is the default as shipped. If you are trying to select banks using MIDI CC messages (or via the track parameter "bank" in Sonar) I have a feeling that this is not supported by z3ta+, despite that the names of the banks appear in the pull-down. Same with program changes. You have to make them from the synth GUI. Edit. Forget what I said. I have just realised that you can use the track parameters, but you must set a MIDI channel in the track parameters (the default of none seems to prevent the changes from being sent to z3ta+).
post edited by ChristopherM - 2008/03/23 16:27:37
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taqdagger407
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RE: Z3TA+ in Sonar 7
2008/03/23 16:56:04
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Oh, Now I get what you mean by A-F. And the default being C From the Main (rgc:audio z3ta+) view. Thanks! And where should I go with the track parameters exactly? If I select Channel 1>A, 2>B, Or is that not it? Is Track parameters the same thing as when I go to track properties?(inputs/outputs/banks/channel/patch) EDIT: I have just figured it out. Than you so much!!!!
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dburns
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RE: Z3TA+ in Sonar 7
2008/09/15 00:47:50
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I can change banks using track params in the DXi version of Z3ta+, but not the VSTi. Is that normal?
The channel drop-down is different, depending on which version I use.
Thanks!
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ChristopherM
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RE: Z3TA+ in Sonar 7
2008/09/15 01:55:07
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I find no difference between DXi and VSTi in this regard. With Midi channel set to 1 in each case, I can freely select Bank and Patch track properties and the synths follow.
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RE: Z3TA+ in Sonar 7
2008/09/15 10:47:17
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taqdagger,
be sure to check out the other banks/programs. Poke around KVR for them.
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dburns
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RE: Z3TA+ in Sonar 7
2008/09/15 13:21:05
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I just tried it again in Sonar 7PE. The DXi version will change bank and patch from the MIDI track assigned to Z3ta+. The VSTi version will change patch, but not the bank. It shows in the MIDI track as being changed, and it shows the correct bank and patch name. But Z3ta+ changes only the patch, not the bank. Every patch is from Bank A, regardless of what the MIDI track shows.
Very strange, and apparently not a problem for most people. Is anybody else seeing this behavior?
I just use the DXi version to avoid this.
Thanks.
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RE: Z3TA+ in Sonar 7
2008/11/17 19:30:26
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ORIGINAL: dburns
I just tried it again in Sonar 7PE. The DXi version will change bank and patch from the MIDI track assigned to Z3ta+. The VSTi version will change patch, but not the bank. It shows in the MIDI track as being changed, and it shows the correct bank and patch name. But Z3ta+ changes only the patch, not the bank. Every patch is from Bank A, regardless of what the MIDI track shows.
Very strange, and apparently not a problem for most people. Is anybody else seeing this behavior?
I just use the DXi version to avoid this.
Thanks.
I am having exactly this problem atm How do i use the DXi version as opposed to the VST version? I need Bank change to work!
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RE: Z3TA+ in Sonar 7
2008/11/17 19:36:59
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I don't seem to have installed the DXI version of z3ta+ so I really need the Bank Select to work on the VSTi version.
How?
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Twigman
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RE: Z3TA+ in Sonar 7
2008/11/18 04:11:00
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RE: Z3TA+ in Sonar 7
2008/11/18 09:24:52
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Try this: In the z3ta VST Plugin Properties, Check Translate Bank/Program Changes
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RE: Z3TA+ in Sonar 7
2008/11/18 13:10:51
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ORIGINAL: sping
Try this: In the z3ta VST Plugin Properties, Check Translate Bank/Program Changes
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I'm having the same problem with the VST version and have tried the translate option. It made no difference for me, it'll go to the correct patch but always in bank A. If I check the event viewer it shows the correct change but z3ta just doesn't perform it, unless it's in bank A.
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RE: Z3TA+ in Sonar 7
2008/11/18 13:38:06
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Excuse the double post but I've just been and had a play with a few options to try and solve this and I have made it work, for me at any rate.
Assuming you are using the "bank/patch change" command from the "Insert" menu, change the "Bank Select Method" from "Normal" to "Controller 0" and hey presto bank and patch changes. Whether this is because of the way my MIDI set up works I have no idea, but it's definitely started working for me. Hope it does for you to..
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RE: Z3TA+ in Sonar 7
2008/11/19 05:23:44
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ORIGINAL: sping
Try this: In the z3ta VST Plugin Properties, Check Translate Bank/Program Changes
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Makes no difference
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RE: Z3TA+ in Sonar 7
2008/11/19 06:21:52
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Perhaps it's the CC's from your instrument. I had a similar episode with a Roland GW-7 changing banks and patches everytime I pushed any button on the GW. Most noticeable was the backing track button. I'm not sure which controller instrument you are using and what Z3TA+'s patch or bank change codes are but your instrument may be telling Z3TA+ to do something the instrument was programmed to tell another peice of equipment to do. The standardized Midi codes seem to be a bit more variable per manufactorer than they should be.
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RE: Z3TA+ in Sonar 7
2008/11/19 09:01:34
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ORIGINAL: FastBikerBoy
Excuse the double post but I've just been and had a play with a few options to try and solve this and I have made it work, for me at any rate.
Assuming you are using the "bank/patch change" command from the "Insert" menu, change the "Bank Select Method" from "Normal" to "Controller 0" and hey presto bank and patch changes. Whether this is because of the way my MIDI set up works I have no idea, but it's definitely started working for me. Hope it does for you to..
I'll try this when I get home thanks
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RE: Z3TA+ in Sonar 7
2008/11/19 09:03:03
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ORIGINAL: Crg
Perhaps it's the CC's from your instrument. I had a similar episode with a Roland GW-7 changing banks and patches everytime I pushed any button on the GW. Most noticeable was the backing track button. I'm not sure which controller instrument you are using and what Z3TA+'s patch or bank change codes are but your instrument may be telling Z3TA+ to do something the instrument was programmed to tell another peice of equipment to do. The standardized Midi codes seem to be a bit more variable per manufactorer than they should be.
This occurs with no midi controller connected.
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RE: Z3TA+ in Sonar 7
2008/11/19 15:07:06
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This occurs with no midi controller connected. I see, what midi controller would you recomend for Z3TA+ or any of the soft synths for that matter. I would have thought that a workstation keyboard would have enough controller capabilities. What is the difference between a keyboard midi controller and a "controller"?
post edited by Crg - 2008/11/19 15:08:13
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