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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/09 16:42:15
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/05/17 11:54:14
Very cool collab. It's got everything from Mesh to Zargg. 
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/09 16:43:52
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bapu
Very cool collab.
It's got everything from Mesh to Zargg.
Thanks for listening, Ed  All the best and stuff 
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/09 19:05:35
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/05/17 11:54:17
Nice track and I do recognise the mesh parts very nice collab. My only nitpick would be the cymbal crashes do tend to mask the vocal at times.
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/09 19:22:58
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Nice track and I do recognise the mesh parts very nice collab. My only nitpick would be the cymbal crashes do tend to mask the vocal at times.
Thanks Something didn't go quite as it should during mixdown.. New mix up with less compression, which might have made the cymbals mask stuff.. All the best. Edit: Wasn't much better regarding cymbals. Will address that tomorrow.
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/09 19:45:41
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/05/17 11:54:24
Much better, the vocals are more intelligible during those parts.
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/09 19:51:49
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Much better, the vocals are more intelligible during those parts.
Thanks! Still have some tweaking to do tomorrow..
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/10 11:17:46
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I have uploaded a new mix. The one from last night was from an older version of the project  Didn't notice until opening SONAR today... 
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/10 12:58:19
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/05/17 11:54:32
On my Bose cans the kick is solid, but the rest of the kit is a bit muddy. Love the acoustic guitar work. "The one from last night was from an older version of the project"I hate when that happens! The one thing we didn't have back in the tape days was a folder with a $hite load on different versions  File management, what a PITA; we all need an administrative assistant to handle the cue sheets... T
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/10 13:12:07
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/05/17 11:54:35
Cool song, with lots of atmosphere!
My only comment about this mix is that the instruments create such a large sound wall that the vocals seem small in relation. If you can address that, I think this would be a much better mix.
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/10 13:36:18
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DeeringAmps
On my Bose cans the kick is solid, but the rest of the kit is a bit muddy.
Love the acoustic guitar work.
"The one from last night was from an older version of the project"
I hate when that happens!
The one thing we didn't have back in the tape days was a folder with a $hite load on different versions
File management, what a PITA; we all need an administrative assistant to handle the cue sheets...
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Thanks for listening, Tom. Will go over the drums, and see if I can make'em all (-BD) sound a little better. This was my first time recording my acoustic guitar in the room I'm in now. Thought it sounded quite good. Edit: Mesh did the guitars in the transitions. All the best.
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/10 13:37:24
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Cool song, with lots of atmosphere!
My only comment about this mix is that the instruments create such a large sound wall that the vocals seem small in relation. If you can address that, I think this would be a much better mix.
Regards,
Dan
Thanks for the positive feedback, Dan. Will see if I can do anything about the vocals. All the best.
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/10 13:45:22
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/05/17 11:54:40
Funny thing about how Ken's project evolved was I initially only listened to this track and just added my 2 cents worth. The song really grew on me and I ended up jamming to it on my acoustic.......Ken heard the tidbits and was kind enough to include them.
It was a quick and fun track to work on......thanks Ken!!
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/10 14:01:42
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Funny thing about how Ken's project evolved was I initially only listened to this track and just added my 2 cents worth. The song really grew on me and I ended up jamming to it on my acoustic.......Ken heard the tidbits and was kind enough to include them.
It was a quick and fun track to work on......thanks Ken!!
Thanks for those "tidbits", Mesh Needed those
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/10 14:39:57
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/05/17 11:54:44
Cool stuff Ken and Mesh.
Not sure what it is but in a very cool way it has a Spanish/Spaghetti Western feel to it (maybe the chord changes). Would go well in a Robert Rodriguez movie.
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/10 16:39:59
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Cool stuff Ken and Mesh.
Not sure what it is but in a very cool way it has a Spanish/Spaghetti Western feel to it (maybe the chord changes). Would go well in a Robert Rodriguez movie.
Thanks, Daryl. Never thought of it like that All the best.
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/10 22:00:34
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/05/17 11:54:56
Very nice work Ken 'n' Mesh  Very much a ballad sounding sort of thing... Loving the vocals to this. It is a busy mix but I liked it
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/11 09:24:54
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Very nice work Ken 'n' Mesh
Very much a ballad sounding sort of thing... Loving the vocals to this. It is a busy mix but I liked it
Thanks for listening, and the positive feedback, Andy. In my mind, this is a ballad I'm trying to open the mix up a little.. All the best.
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/11 17:29:53
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/05/17 11:55:01
Listened to this when you first posted the mix sounded messy which struck me as not you or Mesh.
Not sure what remix this is but it sounds better than the first one.
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/12 18:34:12
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/05/17 11:55:04
Nice one... Great vibe happening, slightly dark and cinematic. If this is the closest you've come to writing a song, I think you need to write more songs.
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/12 19:24:36
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/05/17 11:55:08
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Nice one... Great vibe happening, slightly dark and cinematic. If this is the closest you've come to writing a song, I think you need to write more songs.
I'm certainly no expert on the genre, but I think he meant "Love Song"......
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/12 19:37:59
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/05/17 11:55:22
Ken, I had to listen to this song a few times. Mainly, because I like the song, but also because I thought it was cluttered and the vocals seem to be drowned out by the toms. You can easily open up this mix by panning the guitars and drums wider. On second and third listens, I noticed that there's a lot of stuff going on in the center of the mix, and though stereo, the mix seemed narrow to me. Panning would open up space for the lead vocal, and perhaps, lend a little bit of dynamics to the mix. All in all, this is a song worth the extra bit of effort to make it shine, and is a gem waiting to happen.
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
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☼ Best Answerby Zargg 2017/05/13 11:40:38
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stevec
Nice one... Great vibe happening, slightly dark and cinematic. If this is the closest you've come to writing a song, I think you need to write more songs.
I'm certainly no expert on the genre, but I think he meant "Love Song"......
Crap... where is that Homer Simpson "DOH!" emoticon...
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/13 06:12:35
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/05/17 11:55:35
That's quite a well-written tune. Pretty epic death ballad!!!
I listened on headphones and the mix was decent but I'd look at the hi hats, they were panned far right? And kind of distorting or breaking up? In a complicated song like this, it just takes a while to perfect things. Maybe some timing issues with the drums could use attention.
However, this song is soooo worth the time. Nice job, will check back to hear it after you've lacquered it up a tad. All the bones are there.
cheers,
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/13 11:37:40
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Listened to this when you first posted the mix sounded messy which struck me as not you or Mesh.
Not sure what remix this is but it sounds better than the first one.
Thanks for listening, John. The first upload was a mistake.. The second one was the version I was supposed to upload the first time. Still have some work to do. All the best.
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/13 11:40:30
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Nice one... Great vibe happening, slightly dark and cinematic. If this is the closest you've come to writing a song, I think you need to write more songs.
Thanks, Steve. My wife often describes my music as you did As corrected a few posts up. It's the closest I've come to write a love song All the best.
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/13 11:45:45
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Ken, I had to listen to this song a few times. Mainly, because I like the song, but also because I thought it was cluttered and the vocals seem to be drowned out by the toms. You can easily open up this mix by panning the guitars and drums wider. On second and third listens, I noticed that there's a lot of stuff going on in the center of the mix, and though stereo, the mix seemed narrow to me. Panning would open up space for the lead vocal, and perhaps, lend a little bit of dynamics to the mix. All in all, this is a song worth the extra bit of effort to make it shine, and is a gem waiting to happen.
Thanks for listening and positive feedback, Lynn. I know the mix is cluttered in the middle. Some part of it is due to me "doing the choirs myself", and not finding proper place for them. And the drums needs some work. I'll also try to separate the guitars more. All the best.
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/13 11:50:33
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That's quite a well-written tune. Pretty epic death ballad!!!
I listened on headphones and the mix was decent but I'd look at the hi hats, they were panned far right? And kind of distorting or breaking up? In a complicated song like this, it just takes a while to perfect things. Maybe some timing issues with the drums could use attention.
However, this song is soooo worth the time. Nice job, will check back to hear it after you've lacquered it up a tad. All the bones are there.
cheers,
-Tom
Thanks for the cool feedback, Tom. I'm going to do some more work on the drums, all together. (I think the snare is off some places as well..) I just joined the EW Composer Cloud, so I'm also going to replace all the "choirs", strings, and wood / brass with better sounding tools. Hope that will help. All the best.
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/05/17 11:56:08
Really nice tune, Ken. I think the mix still needs some work, but you've had so many comments on that I'm not sure I can add anything truly constructive.
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Re: Zargg: Sunset too soon, featuring Mesh
2017/05/13 15:23:53
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philz
Really nice tune, Ken. I think the mix still needs some work, but you've had so many comments on that I'm not sure I can add anything truly constructive.
Thanks for listening, Phil. I agree. It still needs some work. All the best.
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