Zeta +2 : verdict ...

Zo


Simply one of the best synth i have on my arsenal ....WIKED !!!!
And i have a bunch ...i can make a whole album simply with that , for sounds ...in fact i might do that on a German based electro project ;)

Rgc + cake ...congrats ...

ps : we drag and drop arp to midi but how to do the opposite ?

I'm pretty sure "RGC" is no longer involved (Rene).   At least that's what I heard.

Z3ta+ (1 and 2) are both great.  2 has some bugs, unfortunately, that I hope will be addressed.   Even the most recent update did not resolve some of the issues.   Nothing too serious, but annoying nonetheless.

I have some projects where only Z3ta2 goes out of sync when looping a section, as an example.

But overall this is still one powerful synth indeed.

I agree with you Z8ta-2 is Wicked !!! I found myself using about 5 instances of Z8ta-2 in my last project. I love the sounds/presets of Z8ta-2..  The presets with the effects on are just massive , thick in your face much better than most my other VSTi's ..'
  The update to 2.1 makes Z8ta that much better in fact, Its awesome we can drag those wicked patterns from the arp onto a new midi track for editing outside then load back into z8ta , or load another VSTi with that pattern for layering..  

 Zo,, You can drag the Arp midi pattern into a midi track , then drag it into a folder in your browser , I do that so it keeps everything tight and needy , Name it ,then in Z8ta-2 where you would browse new arp patterns in the menu on the bottom you'll see where you can a load file. Navigate to the folder in your browser and load it up... 

Zo


yep i dragged the pattern into themidi track ...but is their a "direct way" to do the opposite .....: i play a midi track and then drag it into the arp area in Zeta ?

when You drag the Arp pattern into your midi track, If you upgraded to expanded your able to drag back and fourth between the browser and the TV window, So what I do is make a midi folder in my browser and drag that pattern into that folder , I name it ... 

 Now in z8ta-2 in the arp module where you audition the different patterns, if you right click you will see a cascading menu at the bottom there's somewhere where you can load a file ,, navigate to the folder you created and load that pattern .. Note you can edited the pattern first in sonar Prv ect.... What you can't do is drag and drop patterns into z8ta's arp you have to load them..  Might be another way but this is how I do it..

Zo


thks for the feedback Billy.....and i'm used to freeze ....all the way ...like Soulja Slim used to say ..i'm cold blooded ;)
by the way the softube knob is great ...

i mentionned rgc cause they were the doctor frankeistein of the beast ;)

Yes, RGC (the originator of Z3ta and Dim Pro, Rapture, SFZ, etc) deserves great credit.

As for 'freezing', that's fine - but if I'm at the early stages of composing and am just looping a section (like 8 bars), I'm generally don't - and wouldn't want to - freeze at that point.

There's some bug in Z3ta2 that needs addressing in this regard.

I purchased Z3ta+2 only a while ago as part of the Expanded/Gate/Z3ta+2 bundle, so I am still "playing" around with it. I think the interface is strongly improved. Constructing complex patches is easy to do (if you know your way around a little in softsynths) and I already made a few. Dragging arps from the synth to the MIDI track is a very welcome addition. It should be nice I it could be dragged from the MIDI track to the synth, but saving the MIDI file and loading in the synth is not that cumbersome. I am very pleased with Z3ta+2 so far.

ba_midi

Zo


Simply one of the best synth i have on my arsenal ....WIKED !!!!
And i have a bunch ...i can make a whole album simply with that , for sounds ...in fact i might do that on a German based electro project ;)

Rgc + cake ...congrats ...

ps : we drag and drop arp to midi but how to do the opposite ?

I'm pretty sure "RGC" is no longer involved (Rene).   At least that's what I heard.

Z3ta+ (1 and 2) are both great.  2 has some bugs, unfortunately, that I hope will be addressed.   Even the most recent update did not resolve some of the issues.   Nothing too serious, but annoying nonetheless.

I have some projects where only Z3ta2 goes out of sync when looping a section, as an example.

But overall this is still one powerful synth indeed.

Computer Music, October 2011 did a review on this. They gave it 9/10 rating. In the For Verdict section they said 'Adaptive pitchbend is  genius!' For Contact they listed support@camelaudio.com

I agree about the good things about z3ta+2 - man, it's awesome. The Adaptive Pitch Bend thing I agree with! This stuff is so much fun. When I read about it in the manual I didn't understand a thing. I've never heard of it before but when I started to play with it I realized it has so many creative possibilities that it's not even funny! But seriously, it is really funny. And awesome!

+1 for loving this synth!

I've poked at the original Zeta, and it seemed fun - but it, and the new version, is strictly for music where it's OK for the sounds to be extremely retro-synthy sounding, right?  The sounds are like novelties to me, but I guess I don't listen to the right kind of music to know where those kinds of sounds would be appropriate and musically useful, except maybe zzzzzzzzzzzzz New Age stuff.-- I'm in the "I don't get it" camp I guess.

RB

rbowser


I've poked at the original Zeta, and it seemed fun - but it, and the new version, is strictly for music where it's OK for the sounds to be extremely retro-synthy sounding, right?  The sounds are like novelties to me, but I guess I don't listen to the right kind of music to know where those kinds of sounds would be appropriate and musically useful, except maybe zzzzzzzzzzzzz New Age stuff.-- I'm in the "I don't get it" camp I guess.

RB

Z3ta+ 1.x/2.x definitely aren't for the 'acoustic' sounds or "orchestral" sounds, etc.   But as a "synth" it's extremely powerful.

Like you, however, I feel a lot of the new presets are "novelty" sounding (to use your word).  And that's why I have always been a sound tweaker.  Some presets are ok - some even quite good; but the overall batch that it comes with doesn't knock my socks off.

But start tweaking and have fun - and Z3ta comes alive.  Also the way the Arps are implemented are really useful; the control-ability of the entire synth is solid.  So there's a lot to work with.

I'd rather "tweak" than "Tweet" anyway ;)

I upgraded and it is an extremely good and powerful synth.
 
As FBB says its probably about getting old, for fun I knocked up a 36 bar "dance" piece in an hour or so with several instance Z3ta and one of Session Drummer just using the presets, which prompted the grand kids to say "granddad is making some good music for a change" and for the first time the 13 year old as started asking about how to do it. Somebody is going to have a hit with one of those presets.
 
But the music I try to make is retro prog rock (there is an oxymoron for you!) and my gotos for synths sounds are Minimonsta, Korg legacy Mono Poly, Pentagon and occasionally Triangle, with these I usually find a preset as a starting point and tweak it . I purchased Z3ta +2 to get something different on my pallet. In that context most of the presets do not do it for me, I think Z3Ta +2 can do what I want but it will mean learning to program it from scratch. There is lots of potential but considerable work needed on my part.

I like the ZS38tA+2 I also like Dominion Pre and Ruptire with EXDrummer

AT


Rupture is the bomb!

I nearly ruptured reading that ;)

I reminber on a top ten of the best synth (vote by near 130 review magazine) , on the top 5 of it : zeta+and rapture !
other where 3 party plugin ....

This and other things make sonar , in the bundle section make the difference ...

PS : i just played yetsurady on some song that have to be mixed ...challenge : no eq , no comp except really when needed : satson on all ....bassdrum : waves pie compressor and the softube knob on : OMG !

I'm the type og guy that is serious in the production stage ....and i 'm just in love with the softube drive cause i jsut find myself going back on  the analog edge ...!! where we used to push fader to hit the console !!*

Prochannel : add a console emu (cpu light like satson , in fact they should call the guy) and we have the perfect console !!and the perfect daw in the mixing area !!

Now we're talking (X1) ....

I do have one gripe with Z8ta+2 .. I called tech support and was told this behavior is normal , When You have a project thats pretty large , tweaking  a knob pauses the music for a second only once for that instance, I can switch presets and then tweak that knob only if I touched that knob first. Real Annoying!!!!  So what sucks is if you have long sustained chords and tweak lets say the filter cut off for the first time . You have to restart the song at the beginning because the pause in audio stops the notes being played.. 

 Billy: I agree The sounds are some what cheesey , but a good start to tweak those sounds ... I rarely use the stock presets you have to make them ur own...

 Zo: The Gate I find to be not as good as I expected ..But I love the Soft tube Module...ALOT!!

John -- WOW - so it's not just me! I get that ridiculous pause when tweaking some settings in Z3ta+2 and thought maybe it was just my system or too big project. ................................. i get that with everything, touch a knob or fader on any synth and the sound cuts out, but it only happens once, unless its envelopes in the IL sytrus or harmor, where it happens everytime