Zoom in / out shortcut

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2009/01/19 14:46:03 (permalink)

Zoom in / out shortcut

Hi,

I would like to use J and Y instead of ctrl-right / ctrl-left for the zoom in/out horizontal function in sonar. I just don't find it in the key bindings... How would I make such a change? (To me it makes more sense to use 1 finger istead of 2 hands... weird it doesn't work with the right ctrl key, only the left one)

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    CJaysMusic
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    RE: Zoom in / out shortcut 2009/01/19 15:02:38 (permalink)
    There are +'s and --'s in the corner, just click it with the mouse holding the click down. It zooms in and out in under a second
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    RE: Zoom in / out shortcut 2009/01/19 15:21:47 (permalink)
    To me that is a long cut

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    RE: Zoom in / out shortcut 2009/01/19 15:30:26 (permalink)
    I use the mouse, too. Very fast to zoom in and out.

    However, you can remap the horizontal zoom key bindings. In the Key Bindings dialog, drop down the "Bind Context" listbox and select "Track View". They're listed as "Zoom In Horizontal" and "Zoom Out Horizontal". I have these mapped to "[" and "]" - I don't know if that's the default or not, but it works well and only requires one hand.



    post edited by bitflipper - 2009/01/19 15:35:51


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    RE: Zoom in / out shortcut 2009/01/19 15:32:33 (permalink)
    Try the free utility mouse scroll wheel. You don't even have to use a keyboard button, just a mouse with a clickable wheel. Much more efficent for me.
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    RE: Zoom in / out shortcut 2009/01/19 15:39:41 (permalink)
    Actually, you don't need the mouse utility. Just hold down the alt-key and move the wheel and you can zoom back and forth like crazy.

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    RE: Zoom in / out shortcut 2009/01/19 15:53:54 (permalink)
    bit flippers pretty much hit the nail on the head but if you're interested, here are a couple of other ways that haven't been mentioned so far

    Holding down Z allows you to enable a magnifying glass zoom. You can then click and drag an area you want to zoom in (I find it helps when looking at a coupe of tracks clsoe up). Something similar is available in pro tools

    By pressing U you can revert to the previous ZOOM

    also by pressing "F" you can fit all your tracks to the vertical screen space

    and Shift + "F" will allow you to fit the entire project to the vertical and horizontal parameters.

    the last 2 are a bit depenedent on the track count in as much as that if you have a high track count the tracks will be their smallest vertical size possible and scrolling may be needed to see everything. At this point, folders can become a a really big help navigating through your project

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    RE: Zoom in / out shortcut 2009/01/19 17:27:05 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Spinedoc

    Try the free utility mouse scroll wheel. You don't even have to use a keyboard button, just a mouse with a clickable wheel. Much more efficent for me.

    free utility mouse scroll wheel


    Can you elaborate on what you mean...I have used Sony Vegas for many years and constantly find myself in Sonar clicking a place on the timeline and trying to zoom with the mouse.
    I know there are many ways to zoom in Sonar but I'm an old dog that would really appreciate being able to zoom the way I'm used to (and not get into Vegas and start pushing alt or z or....).
    So please tell me what you mean by "Try the free utility mouse scroll wheel."
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    RE: Zoom in / out shortcut 2009/01/19 17:42:19 (permalink)
    without insulting sonar: the zoom is (nevertheless there are about 400 different ways to do it) not so well implemeneted because the most "ergonomic" way to zoom (imo) with the "z" key aka the magnifying glass is tied to the grid resolution of the arrangewindow.. while it would be much much better without (having a "endless" resolution whatever the other setting is .. infact zooming with the magnifyig galss was (probably still is) one of those simple but perfect features in logic - it was so fluid that you zoomed in and out without even thinking about it...in sonar insted i must admit that i "hate" zooming (the weird thing is that even cubase and wavelab have a better way to zoom (even if again different from logic) for me the zoom (and i am a heavy zoomer is one of those litttle big downsides of sonar

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    RE: Zoom in / out shortcut 2009/01/19 17:55:06 (permalink)
    it was so fluid that you zoomed in and out without even thinking about it...in sonar insted i must admit that i "hate" zooming (the weird thing is that even cubase and wavelab have a better way to zoom (even if again different from logic) for me the zoom (and i am a heavy zoomer is one of those litttle big downsides of sonar


    I guess it's what you get used to but I can't imagine an easier, more intuitive way than to click anywhere in the track view and scroll/zoom in and out. Using this method one can also zoom all the way out to view the whole project and then select another area to zoom in to....all with one finger..... with the other hand on a contour shuttle pro....you don't even need no stinking keyboard!!!
    So any info on the free utility mouse scroll wheel would be most appreciated.

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    RE: Zoom in / out shortcut 2009/01/19 18:10:39 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: g_randybrown

    it was so fluid that you zoomed in and out without even thinking about it...in sonar insted i must admit that i "hate" zooming (the weird thing is that even cubase and wavelab have a better way to zoom (even if again different from logic) for me the zoom (and i am a heavy zoomer is one of those litttle big downsides of sonar


    I guess it's what you get used to but I can't imagine an easier, more intuitive way than to click anywhere in the track view and scroll/zoom in and out. Using this method one can also zoom all the way out to view the whole project and then select another area to zoom in to....all with one finger..... with the other hand on a contour shuttle pro....you don't even need no stinking keyboard!!!
    So any info on the free utility mouse scroll wheel would be most appreciated.



    the logic zoom worked well for both worlds at the same time: being able to go into max detail but still being able to zoom entire regions - just without loosing the "big picture" of the arrangement...brilliant !!
    btw: isnt the way you describe it the sama as it works in wavelab (with dragging don the clicked mouse in the time line) ??

    cheers


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    RE: Zoom in / out shortcut 2009/01/19 18:18:09 (permalink)
    I"m pretty sure default is CTRL+arrow key, no? I smack those things constantly when I'm editing. I think if a better way came along I'd never be able to retrain myself.


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    RE: Zoom in / out shortcut 2009/01/19 18:35:41 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: ...wicked

    I"m pretty sure default is CTRL+arrow key, no? I smack those things constantly when I'm editing. I think if a better way came along I'd never be able to retrain myself.




    thats the way i do it too - but i think its still slow...
    i first used only Z+mouse but its not so smooth either ...

    also it depends on your workstyle: i do a lot of clip slicing and rearranging (almost like a living rexplayer )
    thats why i am not so satisfied ...

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    RE: Zoom in / out shortcut 2009/01/19 19:20:31 (permalink)
    Thanks a lot,

    now I know 2 fast ways with alt, and now I use the available Y and J, which is close to N F S, the hand barely moves when editing.
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    Re: RE: Zoom in / out shortcut 2013/11/28 09:26:15 (permalink)
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    Actually, you don't need the mouse utility. Just hold down the alt-key and move the wheel and you can zoom back and forth like crazy.

    WOW.  I did not know this.  My life will never be the same. Awesome Awesome Awesome! Between that and my horizontal mouse wheel utility, I'm navigating around like a Sonar Magellan. Sweet.

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    Re: RE: Zoom in / out shortcut 2013/11/29 20:09:32 (permalink)
    Great thread, one of those things good to revisit' every once in a while.
    ...wicked
    I"m pretty sure default is CTRL+arrow key, no? I smack those things constantly when I'm editing. I think if a better way came along I'd never be able to retrain myself.

    My method generally as well.. now if I could have a wish it would be to tailor' the action a bit - Seems it's speed starts out ok, but it's ramp up' speed is so steep. I'm always playing this 'timing thing- trying to get to and from the target zoom, say '75%' zoomed in or back to '25%' w/o overshooting.
     

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