add in my email rub it in ProChannel

There is another option, which is when you're collaborating with other people, you can communicate with one another like competent adults, and agree to work with the common set of tools you all have. I know this sounds CRAZY, but it does work. Honest.

Hey John & Millzy,
 
What you say is just too sensible :-)
 
I have all the PC-Plugs, so anyone wants to colab with me, they better buy the lot too !
 
Ah well, seems nobody wants to colab with me anyway, so I can just do what ever the hell I like :-)
 
It does seem strange the way some people have mini-meltdowns over these issues - which aren't really issues at all.
 
Cheers - Cliff

It's pretty good that all your mates have Sonar. The door to door salesman is mighty effective in that area.

i have been a spokes man since sonar music creator and home studio.i have a group of about 5-6 guys who all have sonar we all pass along mixed projects to see what each can come up with, but now there are 2 guys who have the complete  set of soft tube plugs.
and
 brick limiter should be built in every track or buss at least. but where now stuck with there being no option its a fact if you have x1d expanded, odd are everyone has a few extra's and now 
 in reality we all dont use any of them ,cus we all have different ones,
 i see what there doing but as music room stated , its hear to stay, and we will never all be on the same page again,
 its consictancy thats all, not anything wrong it just dont seems right.
 besides the limiter, the  group at least  should be  standard  in x1 pro ex would make it alittle better. but we all got the t racks deluxe ( great dead, and still getting better with free plugs)now the playing field is level.we all have tracks
 P channel will be useless now but guess what its on every trach eather way,, get my drift now,
so if we use the 3rd party plug or not we have it on all tracks and all the real usefull prochannel tools are not a  options since they are all  2x $.

Sometimes you have to say to your mates - it's softube or me. And you've got to prepare yourself for the fact that some may prefer the plug-in. It's happened to me once or twice. Hey I even lost a friend to a freebie. You never get over something like that.

Bristol_Jonesey

bapu


Hold on kids.

Unless a collab is shuttling around the "whole" project (i.e. the entire project folder or a .cwb) what does it matter what each friend has in SONAR (or even if they have <heaven forbid> another DAW)? Or for that matter what 3rd part plugs the friend has?

FWIW, The CHB shuttles individual stems for each contribution. When someone mixes the song, it does not matter what each individual has on their SONAR, it's the mix/engineer and mastering engineer that will decide if any PC FX's (or any other 3rd party plug) is required.

Am I missing something?

Exactly!

Collaboration is intended for Tracking/Playing/Recording.

NOT mixing.

Got to agree here.  At some point you have to commit but tracking isn't that point.  Print the effects to a track if necessary.  Of the things that I find that are wrong or lacking in SONAR X1, the ability to collaborate isn't one of them.

Of course you had to own x1 to use an expansion. Only a cretin would assume otherwise. 

You don't have to buy them. This is ridiculous. 

ok lets just say it sucks buying plugs that are built into your daw when you know you wont be using them.

 
Umm.... huh?   You've bought the additional modules but don't use them... I thought you wanted to buy them but cannot because they're no longer on sale?   Or are you referring to those that come with SONAR X1 Expanded?  And if so, then the same goes for every other feature in SONAR...  Like the Matrix View or Beatscape.  Or how about the Sonitus Phase plugin or SpectraFX... ever use those? 
 

chops2010


well why not try this,
 
If u have mate who all use Sonar and some have took the leap and purchased what they would like to use,
 
then you do what you can with the tools you have then - when the final mix has to be completed send it back to your mates who have the newer goodies -
 
with this then you may get a hit record then be able to purchase the newest toys without worrying. Then create more fan dabby doo records for you and others to rejoyce to and dance,
 
Dance then where ever you may be i am the lord of the dance said he!
 
and such like.
 
Long Live Techno! 
 
 
+1 what he said.
Plus, the one with all the goodies will be the most popular of the group

Tell you what makes me SICK, sick to my GUTS. The font on the Cakewalk logo. If this doesn't change soon, I'm switching to another DAW with a better logo.

John T


You don't have to buy them. This is ridiculous. 

You've obviously got them all. You try not buying one and see what happens. I didn't buy the Concrete Limiter and within a week I had a sinister phone call. The caller said if I didn't buy it I may well meet with a nasty accident. I wasn't taking any chances, I coughed up my ££s and downloaded it straight away.

A week later a guy turns up on my doorstep tooled up, wanting to know why I hadn't started using it. I pleaded with him to let me live and he said "You've got an hour, start using it or I'll be back"

I'm not taking any chances in future I just buy them and use them now whether I like it or not.............

Sometimes you've got to do what you've got to do.

im sorry cake i dont like your logo or marketing. .
il go smash myself in the head with your brick limiter for acting like a crybaby over not having your lovly masterpiece of a plug in you know the one.that you send me email to buy with money i dont have.
may a guitar string pop in my eye for saying such selfish things on your forum.
 sorry sonar. i still love you even if  you wont share your best tools with me.

I think you'll find that the PC makes your FX bin inoperative. Or I think it does from the fuss made about it, I could be wrong though.