an experimental piece in 10/8 time sig

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2012/07/30 08:03:42 (permalink)

an experimental piece in 10/8 time sig

an experimental piece in 10/8 time sig
-kinda weird; but honest
-in Latin, rex regis means "king of the king"
-guitars tuned to open Esus2/add9 (E,B,E,F#,B,E)

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Rex Regis (demo)
© MRI 2009-2012
Words & Music by Daren Thomas Turner


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{{we will contact you shortly}}
{{we will contact you shortly}}
{{we will contact you shortly}}
{{we will contact you shortly}}

well I just don’t ever get it
just wont ever get it
murder me with all the questions
stick a needle in where it hurts
just don’t ever get it
school only made it worse
blood type written double spaced
underground and in the dirt
and I just won’t ever see
and I wont ever feel
because my spine is broken
and forever I will always be
the king of kings when I sleep
but even then I’m depressed
‘cause my castle’s in the basement
even then I’m depressed
‘cause my castle’s in the basement
even then I’m depressed
‘cause my castle’s in the basement
even then I’m depressed
‘cause my castle’s in the basement

{alien vocals}

well I just won’t ever say it
just won’t ever make it
bludgeon me with all the questions
shove my face right in the dirt
just won’t ever get it
Nietzsche even said it first
“nothing matters anymore-
hold on fast ‘cause it gets real worse”
don’t know where I’ve been
don’t remember anything:
like her coma...
memories that cease to be now
like the books she’ll never read
forget-me-nots & chrysanthemums
& flower pots filled with heroin
euthanize every politic
eulogize like a Jesuit
every prayer said for everyone
goes to hell and back
before it is gone
wonder how I stay around when
what I lost I haven’t found…

all the things I never did
became the life I never lived
all the things I never did
became the life I never lived
all the things I never did
became the life I never lived
all the things I never did
became the life I never lived
(everything's gonna be ok...'cause there's nothing left of me)
(everything's gonna be ok...'cause there's nothing left of it) 

(everything i never did... and there's nothing left of it)
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Daren Thomas Turner: guitars, vocals, drums, bass



post edited by ABeautifulVirus - 2012/07/30 10:14:41
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    The Maillard Reaction
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    Re:an experimental piece in 10/8 time sig 2012/07/30 08:20:23 (permalink)

    I liked the bass arpeggio and I admire the well crafted lyrics.

    The guitar solo seemed fresh and original... I dug the harmonies it revealed.


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    Re:an experimental piece in 10/8 time sig 2012/07/30 09:48:28 (permalink)
    Now this is something different

    I think maybe the distorted bits gets a little too distorted so I looses a bit of the bear to my ears. But I really love the insanity and quirkyness of the song, the lyrics are cool.

    Well done! It freaked me out a little but it's really cool

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    Re:an experimental piece in 10/8 time sig 2012/07/30 11:44:04 (permalink)
    As I'm geared toward more songwriting (ldo) I don't understand why you don't take those lyrics and put them in an understandable form.  Honestly, without the written lyric, nifty lines like these -- all the things I never did became the life I never lived -- would be lost in that recording. 
     
    Given that, I like the sound of this and I think you're achieving here what many of the self-proclaimed avant garde "artists" on this forum think they're accomplishing.
     
    I'd like to hear those lyrics in a song, so sue me
     
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    Re:an experimental piece in 10/8 time sig 2012/07/30 14:24:42 (permalink)
    You are one of this forum's best and most avant garde producers.  I rarely see anyone here writing the kind of lyrics you do,  They always tell a story or point of view in ways that others don't even come close to.  You have any number of ways to show your virtuosity and versatility.  But, as Allan said, and I've said before, I would love to hear the words without the written lyrics.  Still, you are an original.

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    Re:an experimental piece in 10/8 time sig 2012/07/31 06:37:57 (permalink)
    hey thanks Mike, Marius, Allan & Lynn.  I concur about the discernability of the lyrics, and you all make valid points; I think I have listened to too many early REM albums, Radiohead and Nirvana ;p - to me, when one has to read the lyrics to understand them, it kinda draws the listener in more, making them more involved in the artistic process.  Getting a song like this on the radio will never happen, and is not necessarily a concern of mine, especially in the weird alien 'experimental' format this opus lives in.  Perhaps the obscurity also helps dampen the personal relationship i have to the lyrics as well, leaving their interpretation open for a more 'customization' of understanding for the listener and their own life & experiences.  For as to me, the lyrics kinda span a lifetime of things that have made/broken me eg my Jesuit education, my marriage ending with my wife's tragic accident, her coma/amnesia/ensuing physical-mental handicap, my spinal cord injury and pain that i live with every day, my spiritual atheism, anomie, nihilism, suicide attempts, drug overdoses, living on the street and in basements of abandoned buildings, jail, being pronounced dead, alien abduction dreams, bipolar vicissitudes, and everything and anything in between.


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    Re:an experimental piece in 10/8 time sig 2012/07/31 07:58:35 (permalink)
    Basically what I heard was a few minutes of screechy noise. There is a reason why people don't use 10/8. This is one of them. A brief history lesson ... Avant garde can be translated from French as meaning horrible crap. It's literal meaning is "advance guard" because this is going to stink.
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    Re:an experimental piece in 10/8 time sig 2012/07/31 09:19:01 (permalink)
    pistolpete


    Basically what I heard was a few minutes of screechy noise. There is a reason why people don't use 10/8. This is one of them. A brief history lesson ... Avant garde can be translated from French as meaning horrible crap. It's literal meaning is "advance guard" because this is going to stink.



    ;p ça m'est égal lol.... bien faire et laisser dire ... il est ce qu'il est
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    Re:an experimental piece in 10/8 time sig 2012/07/31 11:10:35 (permalink)
    Don't pay any attention to that dumb hillbilly.  He is too scared to post anything of his own, so he just sits around in his trailer all day and trolls the internet.
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    Re:an experimental piece in 10/8 time sig 2012/07/31 11:20:26 (permalink)
    Tough call on whether I like it or not. 

    It is your vision and I commend you for that.

    However, since you purposely called it experimental I'd say that if I was in the band I'd have suggested a dramatic change up in the "middle".
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    Re:an experimental piece in 10/8 time sig 2012/07/31 11:25:56 (permalink)
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    Don't pay any attention to that dumb hillbilly.  He is too scared to post anything of his own, so he just sits around in his trailer all day and trolls the internet.

    Two things...


    1. Calling someone a dumb hillbilly may border on TOS violation
    2. By telling someone to not pay attention to another person is calling attention to that person (DOH!, I just did it too, no?)
    3. This post is probably inappropriate


    Uh oh, this dumb Pollack can't count to good.


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    Re:an experimental piece in 10/8 time sig 2012/07/31 12:09:50 (permalink)
    I like this song. It's really cool and different. Like Alice in Chains on an acid trip.

    Everything is cool but the lyrics could be made to be understood better.

    Well done!!!

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    Re:an experimental piece in 10/8 time sig 2012/07/31 12:24:17 (permalink)
    This is cool from a technical perspective but perhaps you should have gone for 11/8 or even something weirder like 3 bars of 11/8 and then a bar of 14/8... ;-) I always envy the skill of people who manage to pull off that kind of thing without it sounding off kilter.

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    Re:an experimental piece in 10/8 time sig 2012/07/31 17:58:36 (permalink)
    Guitarpima


    I like this song. It's really cool and different. Like Alice in Chains on an acid trip.


    AIC on acid lol - luv it

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    This is cool from a technical perspective but perhaps you should have gone for 11/8 or even something weirder like 3 bars of 11/8 and then a bar of 14/8... ;-) I always envy the skill of people who manage to pull off that kind of thing without it sounding off kilter. 

    Cheers, 
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    i hear ya; it drones a bit but more on purpose contrasted against the other textures. working on something in 19/8 in fact.

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    Re:an experimental piece in 10/8 time sig 2012/08/01 00:09:20 (permalink)
    I'm a bit lost on this.  It is too harsh for me to enjoy the nuance's of the track.  I know that there is a good track somewhere.

    I like the chant that is going on underneath, it has a 90's Crimson feel.

    I don't know, I know that I should like this but it s way too harsh.

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    Re:an experimental piece in 10/8 time sig 2012/08/01 03:42:18 (permalink)
    I like the time sig but you could have just as easily used 5/4 LOL. Anyway I think there are some good ideas in here. If it were me I would try some different instrumentation and pull the distortion way back and the vocals forward. Also as Bapu mentioned a change in the middle would meak a big difference. Perhaps even change the time sig to 7/8 and then back to 10/8. You have the makings of something cool here I think.

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    Re:an experimental piece in 10/8 time sig 2012/08/01 08:02:01 (permalink)
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    I like the time sig but you could have just as easily used 5/4 LOL. 

    I thought the same initially but then realised that it really depends on where the beat is. I mean 3/4 and 6/8 are mathematically the same but the beats are in a different place. Traditionally in 5/4 you'd put the emphasis on beats 1 and 4 - I haven't listened back yet (and I'm at work so can't until later) but where is the emphasis in this one?


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    Re:an experimental piece in 10/8 time sig 2012/08/01 08:46:42 (permalink)
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    Tom Riggs


    I like the time sig but you could have just as easily used 5/4 LOL. 

    I thought the same initially but then realised that it really depends on where the beat is. I mean 3/4 and 6/8 are mathematically the same but the beats are in a different place. Traditionally in 5/4 you'd put the emphasis on beats 1 and 4 - I haven't listened back yet (and I'm at work so can't until later) but where is the emphasis in this one?


    Cheers,
    Terry.

    true. 5/4 and 10/8 are mathematically equivalent, but since the guitar pattern is playing 10 8th notes, and the main downbeat comes on the 5, it seemed more logical to deem it 10/8.  the 1st measure in intro where the guitar starts (after the 'we will contact you shortly' words) is a pick-up on last 2 8th notes.  

    also i hear what people are saying about the overly-distorted drums, but i'm worried if i attenuate them down it will take the 'weirdness' out of the mix. this is more supposed to be a Dada-esque piece, like Duchamp's "Fountain" lol  it will never be on the radio ;p more towards the spirit of Luigi Russolo/Noise Music etc. - but maybe i'll tame the distortion down a tad to make it less jarring. the drums are actually acoustic drums w/ distortion.....heavy gate on kick & snare

    lol just realized now that i mentioned Duchamp i'm sure pistol pete will talk about this being a good tune to pee on ;p 
    post edited by ABeautifulVirus - 2012/08/01 09:18:12
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