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2016/10/05 07:50:39 (permalink)

any option to optimize track lanes??

hi!
i'm getting this (pitcure on google drive):
 
https://drive.google.com/...TUh1fBvWGc2VXhsOFhrZ28
 
is there any way to optimize the lanes to automatically delete empty tracks and to arrange everything in order to fit the minimum numer of track lanes possible??
in sonar 8.5 it was very easy...
post edited by bosone - 2016/10/05 08:12:20

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Re: any option to optimize track lanes?? 2016/10/05 09:13:44 (permalink)
I totally agree!
 
I think that this matter have been discussed a lot of times.
 
It would be a gread idea to fix this problem.
 
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Re: any option to optimize track lanes?? 2016/10/05 10:21:31 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Vastman 2016/10/05 21:59:15
Right click on any clip header in parent track and select remove empty lanes.

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Re: any option to optimize track lanes?? 2016/10/06 10:51:25 (permalink)
Unfortunately this is not a big deal:
 
I frequently get several and "incremental" lanes (not empty) and - as in old Sonar versions - it would be a good thing to have an option to "rearrange" all the clips to reduce them.
 
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Re: any option to optimize track lanes?? 2016/10/06 11:00:32 (permalink)
I just do Shift+drag. Not automatic, but doesn't take much time given that you can select multiple clips and move them all at once.

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Re: any option to optimize track lanes?? 2016/10/06 11:15:11 (permalink)
I do the same, ehehe....
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Re: any option to optimize track lanes?? 2016/10/06 12:34:56 (permalink)
I think I've found a much easier way to do this than moving clips. It even works with clips that overlap, as long as you don't mind them playing at the same time. I'll test it some more and if it continues to work as expected, I'll do a video for tomorrow's "Friday's Tip of the Week." 

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Re: any option to optimize track lanes?? 2016/10/06 13:44:42 (permalink)
Well it does seem to work, and it also saves the step of deleting empty tracks. However...before I take the time to do a video, can you give me an idea of your desired use case if Flatten Comp isn't good enough? Also, are you assuming that some of the clips overlap, or that none of them overlap? In your screen shot, none of them do; this makes the process easier.

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Re: any option to optimize track lanes?? 2016/10/06 15:10:40 (permalink)
Thank you and I am curious on this matter.
In my situation, recording clips, I usually end with many increasing lanes, (example: clip1 on lane 1, clip2 on lane 2 an so on...) ending maybe with 10 lanes or so.... (every time I hit REC a new lane is created...).
In the old sonar versions you hade the opportunity with a single command to end with 2 or 3 lane max (just because when I start recording a new section usually I start a couple of bars before.. so they do overlap a bit).
Let us know what is your suggestion.
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post edited by joegab - 2016/10/06 15:32:46
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Re: any option to optimize track lanes?? 2016/10/06 15:24:51 (permalink)
I would love to know a work around for this as well.  I usually have lots of track lanes because I will record 3 or four takes of one section of a song and then move on and loop another section.  After doing 4 or 5 sections I can have 20 or more lanes but only some lead in of each section overlap.  I usually just lasso select and shift-drag to get all the takes in the first 4 or 5 lanes and then remove empty take lanes.

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Re: any option to optimize track lanes?? 2016/10/06 21:26:32 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Steve_Karl 2016/10/08 06:14:44
FWIW we do have plans to intelligently use existing lanes when possible for new recordings so it wouldn't necessarily go to a new take lane every time.  We recognize people work in sections.  So yeah a verse might need 10 takes but the chorus only 4, and why should there be 14 take lanes at the end of that.  There's some other cool stuff we want to add as well.  It's in the oven, but there's a lot in the oven right now, so it's not next week, but it shouldn't be next spring.  Man it's October already!  Time flies when you are releasing every month.
 
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post edited by Keith Albright [Cakewalk] - 2016/10/06 21:50:04

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Re: any option to optimize track lanes?? 2016/10/06 23:00:00 (permalink)
That sounds pretty cool. It's basically what I work like anyway
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Re: any option to optimize track lanes?? 2016/10/07 03:22:15 (permalink)
Thank you Keith,
 
Many people will be happy for that.
 
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Re: any option to optimize track lanes?? 2016/10/07 03:23:25 (permalink)
yeah, thanks for the update! look forward to next updates! :)

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Re: any option to optimize track lanes?? 2016/10/07 15:22:29 (permalink)
this is exactly the type of thing I've been waiting for.
wasted space on take lanes has always been my main gripe. good to hear this.

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Re: any option to optimize track lanes?? 2016/10/07 15:28:20 (permalink)
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I would love to know a work around for this as well.  I usually have lots of track lanes because I will record 3 or four takes of one section of a song and then move on and loop another section.  After doing 4 or 5 sections I can have 20 or more lanes but only some lead in of each section overlap.  I usually just lasso select and shift-drag to get all the takes in the first 4 or 5 lanes and then remove empty take lanes.


A possible workaround is to split the sections of your song (intro, verse, chorus, etc.) into separate tracks and combine the finished parent tracks of your compings later on.
 
That's how I do Comping in SONAR and it works very well for me because Take Lanes keep manageable.
 

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Re: any option to optimize track lanes?? 2016/10/07 19:09:58 (permalink)
Okay, I've posted my tip in the latest "Friday's Tip of the Week." It's not a "magic bullet," but I think it's faster than clicking and dragging.

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Re: any option to optimize track lanes?? 2016/10/08 08:58:02 (permalink)
Keith Albright [Cakewalk]
FWIW we do have plans to intelligently use existing lanes when possible for new recordings so it wouldn't necessarily go to a new take lane every time.  We recognize people work in sections.  So yeah a verse might need 10 takes but the chorus only 4, and why should there be 14 take lanes at the end of that.  There's some other cool stuff we want to add as well.



I really hope other cool stuff includes pre and post record buffers. A common workaround for this is to use punch record mode and set punch regions slightly wider, than needed for a section. If new take lanes will have overlapping audio, how is it going to be handled by Sonar?

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