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2012/04/29 15:00:35 (permalink)

aud.ini rebuild

Hello fellow Sonarites.
I've been having some strange things going on with my X1d expanded.
Before I do a total HD format and re-install I thought I'd give the ol' delete the aud.ini and TTSSEQ files and try the rebuild first.

Honestly I believe that the problem is with the Fast Track Pro.
Now, it seems to work with other programs but the second I arm a track in X1 it flat out red-lines the meter immediately.
That's with nothing plugged into the FTP except the monitors and usb cable. (yes all have been checked and swapped out).
Also all volume controls are all the way down.  

So my plan is to try the aud rebuild first. Then a complete un-install/re-install of X1 (registry items and all) (Will I lose all my VST's with this?)
And last and least A total system format from ground up.

So first things first. 
How the hell do you delete the aud.ini and TTSSEQ in X1de?


Thanks for your time, more to follow.

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    Re:aud.ini rebuild 2012/04/29 18:24:16 (permalink)
    Does the aud.ini no longer exist?
    I did a search of my PC and also manually poked around.
    No luck.

    Please tell me this is still possible.

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    Re:aud.ini rebuild 2012/04/29 18:49:23 (permalink)
    That's strange, I can't find the aud.ini file on my system now. Perhaps it can only be accessed from within X1. I don't remember any notice that it's not used any more so I'm sure it's still there some place.

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    Re:aud.ini rebuild 2012/04/29 19:05:23 (permalink)
    You press the 'edit config file' button in the preferences. I assume X1 still has that button. It'll be under configuartion files or something like that.
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    Re:aud.ini rebuild 2012/04/29 20:35:18 (permalink)
    You handsome bastard you.
    There it was.

    Now to see if a reset helped.

    Pray for me.

    Thanks guys.

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    Re:aud.ini rebuild 2012/04/29 20:46:45 (permalink)
    mike,if/when you do a reformat/fresh install of windows and sonar.
    make a back up image,if your using windows 7 you have no exscuses except no external HD.that should be your only exscuse.
    its about 24 gigabyte after a clean install and sonar producer.thats including some basic nessecitys and some plug ins..

    system image in windows 7 blows away any previous version of windows.
    its exactly how you had it when you made the back up.
    i have three,a clean install,a ton of plug ins,and weekly save.

    if you dont have an external HD?
    partition it,make a 25 gig partition,you can afford it,you got 300,the os for 64 bit is only like 11GB's...

    wait...i just read your signiture...you got a 1 t.b. external HD?
    you better be keeping a back up.

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    Re:aud.ini rebuild 2012/04/29 21:06:20 (permalink)
    Its doubtful that reinstalling Windows 7 is going to fix anything. Try to figure out the real culprit and fix that. Reinstalling the O/S should always be the last resort. 

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    Re:aud.ini rebuild 2012/04/29 22:29:24 (permalink)
    Yeah I know Dave.
    I have a feeling that the culprit is the lame, weak a** M-audio drivers.
    All projects play fine for about 30 seconds then start to break up. 
    I stop the project and restart and all is well for about 30 more.

    Wish I never sold my Mackie Onyx. Never had any problems with that at all.
    But I needed to downsize, went with the FTP and just cant find a setting, ASIO or WDM that likes to play with my Sonar.

    RME here I come.
    Anyone want a MIDISport 2x2 - Axiom 49 and a 5 month old Fast Track Pro?
    Take all 3 and we'll see what kind of deal we can work out.    

    PS. I would never sell any of that shoddy equipment to anyone here on the forums.

    Craigslist here I come.

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    Re:aud.ini rebuild 2012/04/29 23:08:27 (permalink)

    I have a feeling that the culprit is the lame, weak a** M-audio drivers.



     I don't think so... I have an old Delta44 that still works great and a couple of MIDISports that also still work well. Have you looked at the Windows Task Manager while running Sonar to see what processes are using the CPU? 


    Also check the setting in the M-Audio Control Panel. If the VU Meter is red lining, maybe you are getting feedback, Check your routing. 


    Try it in WDM and ASIO modes and see if that sheds any light on the problem.

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    Re:aud.ini rebuild 2012/04/30 09:44:58 (permalink)
    First in Windows Control Panel>Folder Options>View set "Show hidden folder, files"
    then
    Program Files>Cakewalk>Sonar X1 Producer (or Studio)>Cakewalk User Data>Sonar X1 Producer (or Studio)>
    There you'll find the aud.ini and TTSSEQ.ini

    That "Cakewalk user data" is a shortcut to User>App Data>Cakewalk

    HTH

    I forget what "TTSSEQ" does.
    Can we delete that without causing a problem?

    T


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    Re:aud.ini rebuild 2012/05/01 10:42:50 (permalink)
    I forget what "TTSSEQ" does. Can we delete that without causing a problem?



    Good question. 
    I'll let ya know. whats the worst that can happen.
    X1 is unsaleable in this state as is.


    I've tried everything I can think of but it seems that M-Audio drivers don't like HP PC's.


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    Re:aud.ini rebuild 2012/05/01 11:00:08 (permalink)
    yes you can delete aud ini. wihout a problem,id say make a back up just in case/in case what?
    not sure but thats what i was told when i inquired about it,ive deleted mine a few times,that back up ive kept,ive never used/needed.

    aud ini will rebuild once you open up sonar again after the first time after deleting it.

    ps.- ive got the midi sport 2 x2 =havent hadany problems with it,does what i want it to plain and simple.
    the only thing i dont like about it is the m audio driver(once installed)
    continues to run in services at all times(task manager)
    so apon removal of the midi sport sonar thinks its still pluged in and gives a error message sometimes(midi sport has been unplugged)
    either or the later/sonar hangs and wont close properly.

    simply go into msconfig/services/untick-m audio midi sport.
     
    ps- mike,make sure sonar is closed when deleting  aud ini.
    you can actually open it and check it out,i havent read every post here but,have you tried re installing you m audio drivers for the fast track?

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    Re:aud.ini rebuild 2012/05/01 11:08:23 (permalink)
    DeeringAmps


    First in Windows Control Panel>Folder Options>View set "Show hidden folder, files"
    then
    Program Files>Cakewalk>Sonar X1 Producer (or Studio)>Cakewalk User Data>Sonar X1 Producer (or Studio)>
    There you'll find the aud.ini and TTSSEQ.ini

    That "Cakewalk user data" is a shortcut to User>App Data>Cakewalk

    HTH

    I forget what "TTSSEQ" does.
    Can we delete that without causing a problem?

    T


    Tom, I don't know what the TTSSEQ files does, but I DO know it's the file that Panup replaces if you install one of his mods.

    Sonar needs this file to run so I think you'll run into problems if it's moved, deleted, renamed etc.

    It's not like aud.ini which rebuilds a new one upon launching Sonar if there isn't one there already.


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    Re:aud.ini rebuild 2012/05/01 11:54:10 (permalink)

    ps.- ive got the midi sport 2 x2 =havent hadany problems with it,does what i want it to plain and simple. the only thing i dont like about it is the m audio driver(once installed) continues to run in services at all times(task manager) so apon removal of the midi sport sonar thinks its still pluged in and gives a error message sometimes(midi sport has been unplugged) either or the later/sonar hangs and wont close properly.



    Thanks Chuck.
    I used to do the backup thing but as you mentioned, it's never needed so I don't bother. 
    My MidiSport 2x2 does the same thing and I found that if I install the drivers for that and the Axiom neither work. But If I pick one....any one, then they both work fine.
    I tried uninstalling all M-Audio drivers then re-installing ONLY the Fast Track drivers and still have the same issue.
     I do have panups rounded fader mod installed so I'm going to delete that too and see what happens.
    Probably not much seeing as I had this problem before I installed the mod..


    I think I'm going for the complete re-install of X1 on a clean OS. 
    It's a pain in the ass but maybe with all the confusing install instructions and rollbacks and updates something got corrupt.


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    Re:aud.ini rebuild 2012/05/01 12:10:50 (permalink)
    @ Bristol
    Thanks for the headsup on  TTSSEQ, its in with the aud.ini, I haven't ever messed with it; but Mike was asking for the location.

    @All

    IF/WHEN your system is working properly, you DO want to burn an image!
    That way you can always "Get Back".
    Just keep in mind you'll lose any recent installs and any preset saves, etc. that Cake keeps on the "C" drive (Preferences>File>Folder Locations).
    I move everything OFF the "C" for that reason.
    C is for the OS and Producer X1.exe.

    I burn a new image EVERY TIME I change something that MIGHT blow up the system.

    Its your system, YMMV...

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    Re:aud.ini rebuild 2012/05/01 12:19:31 (permalink)
    Sage advice Tom.

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    Re:aud.ini rebuild 2012/05/01 14:35:25 (permalink)
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    DeeringAmps


    First in Windows Control Panel>Folder Options>View set "Show hidden folder, files"
    then
    Program Files>Cakewalk>Sonar X1 Producer (or Studio)>Cakewalk User Data>Sonar X1 Producer (or Studio)>
    There you'll find the aud.ini and TTSSEQ.ini

    That "Cakewalk user data" is a shortcut to User>App Data>Cakewalk

    HTH

    I forget what "TTSSEQ" does.
    Can we delete that without causing a problem?

    T


    Tom, I don't know what the TTSSEQ files does, but I DO know it's the file that Panup replaces if you install one of his mods.

    Sonar needs this file to run so I think you'll run into problems if it's moved, deleted, renamed etc.

    It's not like aud.ini which rebuilds a new one upon launching Sonar if there isn't one there already.
     
    you sure about that bj ? 
      
    i thought it was the TTRES90.dll that pan up uses for his mods.(the replacable dll.file)
    located in C/programfiles/cakewalk/sonarx1 
     
    TTSEQ isnt even in the same folder. (its in the app data folder)
    bj,have you used any of the mods? 
      
    is he also using the TTSEQ? as well now?
     
    hmm.this will be helpful info to pass on to others. 
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    Re:aud.ini rebuild 2012/05/01 14:48:11 (permalink)
    mike,if you reformat,do the right thing,make a system image.
    if you had one now,all you'd have to do is take 20 minutes to recover it.
    dude,its only 20+gigs of memory(with sonar installed)
    dont trust system restores,as you said the configurations saved in so many different parts of your computer,the conflicts will leave your head spiining.
    ive only system restored to roll back a patch once or twice,its good for that if it hasnt been long but not good for nothing else.

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    Re:aud.ini rebuild 2012/05/01 16:35:40 (permalink)
    You might be right Charlie - I was going from memory being nowhere near my DAW.

    Sorry for any confusion.

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    Re:aud.ini rebuild 2012/05/01 18:22:02 (permalink)
    Typically ini files are persistent storage files used to hold application configurations. It's a fairly old-school practice to use them these days, but programs with a lot of history typically don't bother changing that as the permissions around file access (read/write) hasn't changed too significanly in Windows for many years. 

    Rather than blowing away the file, I'd recommend renaming it with a new extension (e.g. aud.ini -> aud.ini.old) and re-start the application. You will, most frequently, see the file be regenerated. If not, you can always close down the program, re-name the file back to its old name and re-start without causing yourself too much grief.

    That being said, chuck's advice to take a backup is never a bad idea when playing around with program files or registry settings so you can restore them if you get in over your head.

    HTH,
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    Re:aud.ini rebuild 2012/05/02 10:42:14 (permalink)
    I do have a backup of the last fresh install but that's the install I'm using now.
    I don't want to use that because it doesn't seem to be working that well.

    So I'm hoping a fresh buildup from the ground up might help.

    Then another backup image.

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