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2014/03/12 08:46:37 (permalink)

audio dropouts and static

OK. I mentioned this before when I had problems with an X 1 project opened up on X 3.
I've just put together a 10 track audio only project in X 3. I am getting occasional audio dropouts which stop the project in its tracks. I can hit the start button and it will resume playing. I don't know what the problem could be I have a fast processor and 16 gigabytes of RAM.
I also get the occasional burst of static maybe a second or two which is audible but does not print. Therefore once I hit stop and replay its not there. Which is good. I'm wondering if these audio dropouts could be caused by using vst 3 as well as vst 2 with Direct X plugs in different tracks?
I am also using the V 700 system.

has anyone else experienced this? Thank you very much fellows.
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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/12 10:40:43 (permalink)
    Well, there could be some settings causing this, or your system could maybe not have enough horsepower (or have a Wi-Fi adapter), or one or more plugins could be causing latency spikes.
     
    It makes it easier for us to help you if you post your system specs in your forum profile's Signature section, as it gives us an instant snapshot of what you are running, which speeds up the debugging process (not always, but many times it does).
     
    If you look at the bottom of my post, you will see my specs (as an example) - to post yours in all future posts, go to the top of the forum page and click User Control Panel, then click on Signature and Comment, then add your specs, check the box to 'always attach signature to post', then click Save Profile.
     
    In any case, I would like you to post the following information:
     
    Audio Interface: Sample Rate, ASIO Buffer Size
     
    Sonar: Driver Mode, Sample Rate, Record Bit-Depth, Total Roundtrip Latency (All of the Sonar info is in Preferences)
     
    The above will tell me if your settings are out of whack a bit, and if so, they can likely be set to where you don't have these dropouts.
     
    It is also possible that one or more plugins are causing the latency.  You can quickly test this by hitting 'E' on your computer keyboard - this will temporarily 'Bypass All Effects'.  If your dropouts go away, then indeed one or more plugins are causing the problems.  (Hit 'E' again to turn effects back on when done).
     
    Some plugins are not meant to be used in tracking (recording), but instead are meant for mixing/mastering.  These plugins, by their design, use either look-ahead processing or require high CPU cycles to do what they do.  If these are causing your dropouts, then swap them out for less demanding plugins - just while you are recording your tracks, then when ready for mixing, put those plugins back in and make your ASIO Buffer Size large enough to accommodate the extra demands of these plugins.  This is what most folks do, keep latency low for recording, then raise it and put in the plugins meant for mixing/mastering when you are ready to mix.
     
    If you have a Wi-Fi adapter, this often causes big latency spikes, and turning it off or disabling it prior to firing up Sonar will often get rid of dropouts (common issue with laptops running Sonar. but some folks use wireless on desktops).
     
    I hope the above helps.
     
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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/12 13:25:33 (permalink)
    Your 16 gigs of ram doesn't make any difference as drop outs are caused by you CPU, not Ram.
    If you are wondering if its a VST3, VST2 or Direct X plugin, just disable one at a time to see if it doesn't happen. This is the way to troubleshoot these things.
     
    To relieve your CPU, just raise your sound card buffers. Also, try different driver modes as you need to see what driver modes works best for your DAW. Sometimes its WDM and sometimes its ASIO.
    After you determine what driver mode works best for you, then start adjusting your buffers so that the project you are working on doesn't drop out. If you only have 10 audio tracks and its dropping out, its gotta be some sort of plugin or you are running some other programs in the background that are hogging up the CPU that Sonar needs.
     
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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/12 13:34:39 (permalink)
    HI Westside Steve:
     
    If you run the DPC Latency checker (http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml ) and get no spikes, you can narrow down the cause of the issues to something less serious than device drivers. If you are getting spikes when you run the DPC latency checker, you have to find the device/s with the bad driver/s. In that case, see the guide in the link above.
     
    If you're not getting any spikes when you run DPC Latency checker, try tweaking the Record and Playback I/O buffer sizes using increments or decrements of 128. That's in Advanced View of the Unified Preferences View under Audio>Sync and Caching under the File System section.
     
    I don't see any specific system specs listed from you, but I'll try to post some more helpful info.
     
    Wireless network devices are known to be a culprit of dropouts, so it's recommended to disable them.
     
    Also firewire adapters that are non-TI chipsets (non Texas Instrument chipset) have been reported, to cause drop outs pops and clicks. If you're using a firewire audio interface, using the legacy driver for IEEE 1394 firewire bus host controller (in Device Manager) has also been known to solve problems with dropouts, pops, and clicks during playback and recording. That's probably not the problem because you would experience dropouts, pops and clicks more often than just occasionally.
     
    Lastly, you say you're only running 10 audio tracks, but how many VST/DX FX and VSTI/DXi are you running, could your audio interface's buffer size be too low for running a lot of effects and softsynths? Have you tried increasing the buffer size during playback?
     
    Finally, if you're running Windows 7, disabling core-parking has resolved issues of dropouts, pops and clicks. I think this is a tweak everyone running a DAW should make.
     
    CJay makes a good point about driver modes.
     
    Hope that helps.
    post edited by thomasabarnes - 2014/03/12 21:05:51


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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/12 19:33:10 (permalink)
    ASIO buffer is the #1 cause of  this (but maybe not in this case).  In several previous posts we have discussed tracking (recording) with a low ASIO buffer (like 64) to reduce latency (delay) and then mixing at a higher setting (like 1024) to reduce drop-outs and static.
     
    Maybe you already know this, but it is something we always want to make sure new users know.  (To change this, go to Preferences | Drivers | ASIO Panel.)

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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/12 21:15:09 (permalink)
    Nicely stated, Konrad.  :)
     
    I agree - I cannot tell you how many times I have posted on this issue, but it is easily the most common issue I respond to.
     
    I DO enjoy it when folks get their settings or environment to a good place, where the dropouts vanish, because they get so instantly happy with life.  :)
     
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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/13 07:43:06 (permalink)
    thank you very much gentlemen, I appreciate your help! I will go down and check as many of the specs as possible and list them.

    the processor appears to be and Intel i7 4820k running at 3.70 gigahertz.
    I will check the buffers. The 2 or 3 second bursts of static are a puzzlement.
    WSS
    post edited by Westside Steve - 2014/03/13 08:33:51
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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/13 08:44:08 (permalink)
    OK processor is an Intel i7 4820 K running at 3.7 gigahertz. In preferences it says mixing latency buffers in playback 2. Buffer size all the way to the left, fast. 5.8 millisecond latency _ 256 samples. ASIO audio buffer size is set on 6.

    Thanks
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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/13 09:18:55 (permalink)
    Hi - thanks.
     
    Please go into Sonar: Edit>Preferences>Audio>Driver Settings, and post your Total Roundtrip Latency value, which is posted there as reported by ASIO.
     
    We'll get this figured out - please hang in there.
     
    I am also wondering if there is some background service that kicks off at some intervals, that jacks up your latency from time to time.
     
    There are 2 freeware programs that do a good job at detecting your system's basic ability to handle streaming audio processing, such as what is done in Sonar.  These applications are DPC Latency Checker, and LatencyMon.  Please note that while both programs will run just fine in Windows 7, DPC Latency Checker will report the wrong times if you run it in Windows 8.
     
    What you would do is download and run either or both of the programs (one at a time), with Sonar NOT running, and you just let them run for a few minutes, during which they will gather information on latency in your system.
     
    DPC Latency Checker can be downloaded from: 
     
    http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml
     
    LatencyMon comes from:
     
    http://www.resplendence.com/latencymon
     
    In addition to posting your Total Roundtrip Latency, please also consider running one or both of the above programs and posting your results.
     
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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/13 10:25:11 (permalink)
    total round trip is 28.9 milliseconds 1274 samples. I do havea wifi adapter plugged in.
    Will do latency mod.
    WSS
    post edited by Westside Steve - 2014/03/13 11:19:46
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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/13 11:30:12 (permalink)
    OK - for recording, that is too high.
     
    That amount of latency will cause dropouts.
     
    Try temporarily turning off the Wi-Fi adapter, if it has a switch, or disabling it in Windows, just prior to starting Sonar, and turn it back on when you finish in Sonar.
     
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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/13 11:54:09 (permalink)
    Yea, your WIFI in your PC can cause Static burst.

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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/13 12:21:43 (permalink)
    thanks guys. I'll disable that wifi adapter when recordng. If the latency is too high, bone, how do i turn it down?
    would I set that number 6 over to 4 or 3?
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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/13 12:47:29 (permalink)
    We're still working somewhat in the dark, here. I don't see where the OP has lists important information:
     
    1) What operating system he is running or what audio interface he is running (two very important system specs.)
     
    2) The number of VST or softsynth he has loaded in the project. This info is needed to give us an idea of what kind of work load the OP is running in the SONAR project that exhibits the drop outs and static.  Playback and Record I/O buffer size. Or is it just this project or all projects that exhibit the drop outs and static? With a CPU as fast as 3.7 GHz, the ASIO latency can be set at 64 or 128 samples for playback and recording.
     
    To Op: in the Unified Preferences View select Advanced at the bottom of this dialog. Under Audio>Sync and Caching look under File System on the right?  What is the Playback and Record I/O buffer sizes set at?
     
    The wireless network adapter certainly should be disabled when running SONAR. Disable it, and run the project. Is the problem still there after you disable the wireless network adapter?
     
    I don't have Windows 8 or 8.1, but it still may be a matter as little as disabling core-parking, if he is running Windows 7. 
    post edited by thomasabarnes - 2014/03/15 04:34:17


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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/13 12:49:34 (permalink)
    What I recommend is to indeed disable that adapter prior to running Sonar, then going into the ASIO Control Panel for your audio interface, and changing the ASIO Buffer Size there.
     
    Some interface UI screen's are accessed through Preferences>Audio>Driver Settings, by hitting the ASIO Control Panel button, but some vendors do not respond to that, and instead they usually have a program running and minimized down to the Windows System Tray, which is down in the right-bottom corner of your Desktop (you may have to hit the little arrow to expand your hidden icons).
     
    I have only ever seen those 2 ways of getting to the audio interface's UI screen, so one of those should work.
     
    As far as what to set it to, some of the UI screens use ASIO Buffer Size, and some have 'Number of Samples', and some have a slider and a number.  They all control the buffer size, it's just different mechanisms for doing so.
     
    If you see ASIO Buffer Size, set it to 128.  If you see Number of Samples, shoot for around 220-230 samples, or whatever is around or under 250 samples.  If it is a slider, try moving it down a bit, it if is now on 6 move it to 4 or 5 (you can always make this change and go see what it does to your ASIO-reported Input Samples and Output Samples in Sonar's Preferences>Audio>Driver Settings, in the reported latency section, and go back and further adjust the slider one way or the other - until you get it set to around 220-230 or so).
     
    What you want to end up, as a reasonable balance, is to have an ASIO-reported Total Roundtrip Latency of around 9-10 milliseconds, which will give you good sound quality without really hearing any dropouts. 
     
    The above is my recommendation for when you are RECORDING.  You will have to make your buffer bigger - possibly up to around a buffer size of 1024, instead of 128, when you are doing mixing/mastering, but for recording use the above settings and with your Wi-Fi also disabled you should be OK.
     
    SOOOO, give the above a shot and please post back on the results, or ask more questions if you need me to take another stab at explaining any of what I posted.
     
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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/13 12:53:23 (permalink)
    @thomasabarnes - you are quite correct, the OP has not listed much in the way of system specs.  I had asked the OP to list his specs in his profile signature, but so far he has not done so.
     
    Hopefully, he will supply that information, so that we can better assist him with issues.
     
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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/13 12:56:58 (permalink)
    Westside Steve
    If the latency is too high, bone, how do i turn it down?
    would I set that number 6 over to 4 or 3?
    WSS



    Oh, I didn't realize you're kind of new to this computer stuff.
     
    In the Unified Preference View (open this view by going to Edit and selecting Preferences in the top left side of SONAR,) click on Audio on the left side of the window that pops up, click on Driver Settings and then click the ASIO button on the right. A window for audio interface should pop up, change the Samples Per Buffer in that window.
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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/13 13:02:40 (permalink)
    Hi Robert:
     
    With CJay, you, and me helping him, he will most likely be OK.


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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/13 13:05:04 (permalink)
    As long as he's not creating new Disco music - I'm OUT if he is :)
     
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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/13 13:44:31 (permalink)
    Heh. in the late seventy's we got canned from a gig without pay because I launchetched into our omnipresent disco sucks routine. In those days, when there was actually a Musicians Union, we went before a board comprised of 5 old Italian guys who played music for a living since they got off the boat. They ask the club or what I said that was so offensive? He replied disco sucks! The old guy laughed out loud and said pay the boys!

    but I've been using cakewalk since version 3 on floppy desk. I've just not had this problem before and quite honestly don't know very much about the computer end of things. Sorry and thanks for the help guys. And I have known of CJ for many years! Thanks again.
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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/13 14:34:00 (permalink)
    Ah OK. LOL
     
    Are you gonna post the system specs we asked for. Do you want to get this problem resolved? Re-read the posts and tell us the results of things we directed you to do? Also list the system specs we asked for, including type of hard drives and speed and number of hard drives.
     
    We will help get your problem resolved, but we can't do that without your cooperation.
     
    Lastly, let me say I liked Disco, a lot.
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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/13 14:40:06 (permalink)
    (Don't tell anyone, but I did too - specially the Bee Gees)
     
    Ssshhh, 
     
    To the original poster - I have now asked a couple of times, at least, and so has thomasabarnes, that you please provide your system specs, in detail.
     
    This is SO WE CAN HELP YOU.  Even if YOU don't have a good awareness of the computer end of things, it matters, and if folks get tired of asking for information that you for whatever reason do not provide, then you will find yourself losing folks from the thread (the ones that could help you).
     
    So, PLEASE re-read the posts for the info we requested, and post your information, actually, please add it to your forum profile's Signature section, as was originally asked.  The bottom of my posts contains an example of listing one's specs.
     
    (@thomasbarnes - by the way, that ASIO button in Preferences only works for some audio interfaces, and for others you have to launch them from the Windows System Tray).
     
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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/13 15:25:48 (permalink)
    Bob Thomas CJ
    sorry for coming off like dumb kid from hell fellas... :-O

    I realize I should have taken this on all it once rather than piecemeal over the smartphone back and forth from the console. I will get the specs in the sig. And I will make note of the numbers and post them here. By the way I have forgotten to mention its Windows 8 .1 64 and the audio interface is the Roland V 700 system. I assume I'm using ASIO drivers.
    I promised to post more info and thank you for your patience.

    PS I love everything the Bee Gees ever did.
    WSS
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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/13 16:08:17 (permalink)
    You're OK - we're still here, trying to help you through this.
     
    I look forward to your upcoming detailed post, 
     
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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/13 17:15:46 (permalink)
    robert_e_bone 
    (@thomasbarnes - by the way, that ASIO button in Preferences only works for some audio interfaces, and for others you have to launch them from the Windows System Tray).
     
    Bob Bone

     
    I don't deny that. With not much to go on, one has to write in light of what is generally or typically the case and do a good amount of educated guessing.
     
    Heck, with my M-Audio 1010LT I have to makes settings adjustments in the M-Audio control panel, before I open SONAR (as the settings wont take via using the ASIO button.) Yet, with my MOTU audio interface, I change the settings via the ASIO button.
     
     


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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/13 17:35:45 (permalink)
     
     
     @Robert
     
    I suspect his issue will be resolved by disabling all and any wireless adapters, disabling  core-parking, having SONAR setup for a correct ThreadSchedulingModel of a 1 or 2 setting (the default being 1,) having reasonable playback and record I/O buffer settings typically 128 or 256 for non SSD drives, and an ASIO buffer size setting of 256 or lower.
     
    Then, the important things are to find out how many hard drives, types and speed of the Hard drives, did he get any spikes running latency Monitor (as you say DPC Latency Checker doesn't work reliably in Win 8.1,) How many effects and softsynths are in the project and which ones are they.
     
    I wonder: is disabling core-parking in Win 8.1 an acceptable and beneficial windows tweak anymore?


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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/14 11:03:32 (permalink)
    Hello 
    It seems I missed a very important response from Konrad about recording and playback buffers in ASIO.
    Sorry Konrad I might need different buffers for recording and playback?  (Android version of forums is harder to see....)
     
    First some specs and I hope these are what are helpful.
    Studiocat Platinum Studio
    Windows 8.1 64 bit
    Processor i7 4820k 3.70
    Ram    16 G
    Raedon HD 7700
    Interface V 700 console and R
    Playback timing Master V700 Master
    Record timing Master V700 Fantom
    2X Toshiba 1 T HDs  DT 01ACA
    ASIO  set at 64 samples resulted in 9.4 ms roundtrip.
    set at 512 round trip is 45.5 ms
    MB Gigabyte X79 UP4
     
    This particular Project 
    11 audio tracks
    2 MIDI tracks
    1 Dimension Pro
    1 Studio instruments piano
    2 DXI FX
    2 automated level 
     
    Anything else?
    Have yet to download Latency master utility
     
    Never had dropouts with old Gateway and X1 and I used plenty of FX.
     
    Thank you all
    WSS
     
     
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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/14 11:13:58 (permalink)
    Your PC should be rocking that track. Sometimes I have had to re load a soft synth or two to get everything back to normal.
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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/14 11:15:26 (permalink)
    Disable your Wireless.
     
    you never listed your ASIO buffers or WDM slider settings? Why? Also, you never listed your recording and playback I/O buffers? Why? what about your buffers in Que? This needs to be listened also. 
     
     
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    Re: audio dropouts and static 2014/03/14 11:49:31 (permalink)
    CJaysMusic
    Disable your Wireless.
     
    you never listed your ASIO buffers or WDM slider settings? Why? Also, you never listed your recording and playback I/O buffers? Why? what about your buffers in Que? This needs to be listened also. 
     
     
    CJ


    Sorry
    it says here sample rate 44100
    Mixing latency buffers in playback queue 2
    buffer size all the way to the left 11.6 milliseconds
    (the above two appear to be grayed out)
    512 samples
    this changes according to where I shut the slider in the ASIOpanel.
    ASIO panel audio buffer size slider set at 7 which results in 512 asio buffer size.

    I guess I'm not exactly sure where to find the recording and playback buffer information.
    WSS
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