audio interface for mixing only - need recommendations please

Author
roddey_phipps
Max Output Level: -87 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 168
  • Joined: 2007/03/19 14:18:02
  • Status: offline
2015/03/25 07:36:44 (permalink)

audio interface for mixing only - need recommendations please

OK. I'm done with these stupid cheap soundcards. They dont work, and they're a pain in the butt to install.
 
Heres what I need, and hopefully some of you guys can help me find something.
 
My Windows 7 machine has X3 Studio. All I do on it, is mix. No recording. At all. The recordings are done on another machine, with Home Studio 6, and then I copy the entire folder over to my windows 7 machine, and mix in X3.
 
So, all I need is a simple ASIO all 24bit (record and play) USB interface, for output only. Something to go between X3 and two powered nearfield monitors. Mic preamps, doesnt matter, more than likely will not be used. I dont need a bunch of channels either.
 
Would like something thats painlessly easy to install, and, something that SONAR has a good known relationship with - easy for SONAR to recognize and use.
 
thanks for any replies.
#1

16 Replies Related Threads

    Kamikaze
    Max Output Level: -45 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 3013
    • Joined: 2015/01/15 21:38:59
    • Location: Da Nang, Vietnam
    • Status: offline
    Re: audio interface for mixing only - need recommendations please 2015/03/25 07:39:58 (permalink)
    Not the Roland Quad. Works well with Sonar, but the Headphone/master out is annoying

     
    #2
    roddey_phipps
    Max Output Level: -87 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 168
    • Joined: 2007/03/19 14:18:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: audio interface for mixing only - need recommendations please 2015/03/25 09:23:50 (permalink)
    can anyone see a reason why this would NOT work for what I'm trying to do?
     
    its got a USB connection to computer, and two line outs to the powered monitors. I'm not sure I need anything else... do I? Will this do the job?

    http://www.amazon.com/Foc...s=USB+audio+interfaces
    #3
    Bristol_Jonesey
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 16775
    • Joined: 2007/10/08 15:41:17
    • Location: Bristol, UK
    • Status: offline
    Re: audio interface for mixing only - need recommendations please 2015/03/25 10:11:31 (permalink)
    The line outs are on Phono plugs.

    CbB, Platinum, 64 bit throughout
    Custom built i7 3930, 32Gb RAM, 2 x 1Tb Internal HDD, 1 x 1TB system SSD (Win 7), 1 x 500Gb system SSD (Win 10), 2 x 1Tb External HDD's, Dual boot Win 7 & Win 10 64 Bit, Saffire Pro 26, ISA One, Adam P11A,
    #4
    roddey_phipps
    Max Output Level: -87 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 168
    • Joined: 2007/03/19 14:18:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: audio interface for mixing only - need recommendations please 2015/03/25 10:16:16 (permalink)
    you mean 1/8" outputs?
     
    I can work with that. plenty of adaptors.
     
    Is 1/8" output bad?
    #5
    Bristol_Jonesey
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 16775
    • Joined: 2007/10/08 15:41:17
    • Location: Bristol, UK
    • Status: offline
    Re: audio interface for mixing only - need recommendations please 2015/03/25 10:32:35 (permalink)
    They are usually unbalanced, which can cause noise problems, coupled with a drop in volume.

    CbB, Platinum, 64 bit throughout
    Custom built i7 3930, 32Gb RAM, 2 x 1Tb Internal HDD, 1 x 1TB system SSD (Win 7), 1 x 500Gb system SSD (Win 10), 2 x 1Tb External HDD's, Dual boot Win 7 & Win 10 64 Bit, Saffire Pro 26, ISA One, Adam P11A,
    #6
    roddey_phipps
    Max Output Level: -87 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 168
    • Joined: 2007/03/19 14:18:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: audio interface for mixing only - need recommendations please 2015/03/25 10:35:41 (permalink)
    OK.
     
    What kind of outputs do I need?
     
    1/4"?
     
    The Yamaha monitors I use have 1/4" inputs.
     
     
    #7
    AT
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 10654
    • Joined: 2004/01/09 10:42:46
    • Location: TeXaS
    • Status: offline
    Re: audio interface for mixing only - need recommendations please 2015/03/25 10:51:57 (permalink)
     
    It is best to have outputs that match specs and connectors with the inputs.  RCA and some 1/4 inch are unbalanced.  As Mr. Jonesey sez, unbalanced cables are more prone to interference and noise.
     
    You haven't said how much you want to spend.  In general, interfaces sound the same in a price range.  What you want are drivers that work with your specific computer.  All should work, but there are times when your system has conflicts with a specific unit.  So you want to be able to return a unit.  You problems are slight w/ drivers, since you don't need low latency, just compatibility.  I would think any music interface would work.  In your situation on the low end I'd try the new Tascam units (Gibson owns them and Cakewalk so you figure the drivers should be well tested w/ SONAR).  Steinberg (made by Yamaha) would be high on the list, as well as Focusrite (many happy users here).
     
    On the higher end I would go for the Tascam UH-7000.  High end conversion - better than my TC electronic interface (which is "pro" level).  Very clean and pristine, which is what you want in monitoring, like studio monitors.  High latency, which ain't a problem for you.  Much better preamps than prosumer interfaces.  I know that isn't what you need, but if you ever do ....  Great buy for $400, if you want to spend that much.  It is good enough you won't ever need to buy another interface, even if you win the lottery.

    https://soundcloud.com/a-pleasure-dome
    http://www.bnoir-film.com/  
     
    there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
    24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
    #8
    roddey_phipps
    Max Output Level: -87 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 168
    • Joined: 2007/03/19 14:18:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: audio interface for mixing only - need recommendations please 2015/03/25 10:56:29 (permalink)
    thanks. I think 150 bucks is all I want to spend, for playback only.
     
    If I was recording, I'd buy an 8 in 8 out interface.
     
    On Amazon, there are a bunch of horrible reviews concerning problems with Focusrites drivers and people complaining they had to use ASIO4ALL.
     
    Anybody here have that problem?
    #9
    roddey_phipps
    Max Output Level: -87 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 168
    • Joined: 2007/03/19 14:18:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: audio interface for mixing only - need recommendations please 2015/03/25 11:02:06 (permalink)
    guy here complained of real problems using X3 and the tascam unit in his review

    http://www.amazon.com/TASCAM-US-2x2-USB-Audio-Interface/dp/B00MIXF2RS/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1427295407&sr=1-1&keywords=tascam+audio+interface


    I dont know, maybe these reviews are just one in a million problems... but that one was specific enough to spook me
     
    #10
    THambrecht
    Max Output Level: -73 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 867
    • Joined: 2010/12/10 06:42:03
    • Location: Germany
    • Status: offline
    Re: audio interface for mixing only - need recommendations please 2015/03/25 12:15:19 (permalink)
    Audiointerfaces for 150 bucks (and cheaper) can cause dropouts and constantly stop the audio engine.
    I recommend any interface from RME.

    We digitize tapes, vinyl, dat, md ... in broadcast and studio quality for publishers, public institutions and individuals.
    4 x Intel Quad-CPU, 4GHz Sonar Platinum (Windows 10 - 64Bit) and 14 computers for recording tapes, vinyl ...

    4 x RME Fireface 800, 2 x Roland Octa Capture and 4 x Roland Quad Capture, Focusrite .... Studer A80, RP99, EMT948 ...

    (Germany)  http://www.hambrecht.de
    #11
    Jim Roseberry
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 9871
    • Joined: 2004/03/23 11:34:51
    • Location: Ohio
    • Status: offline
    Re: audio interface for mixing only - need recommendations please 2015/03/25 12:38:29 (permalink)
    If you're looking for top fidelity (and ultra low round-trip latency isn't a priority), the Tascam UH-7000 would be a good fit.  Great converters.  Very nice preamps (if you ever did need to over-dub).
    It's ~$400, but it offers fidelity superior to anything else at that price point.

    Best Regards,

    Jim Roseberry
    jim@studiocat.com
    www.studiocat.com
    #12
    Sanderxpander
    Max Output Level: -36.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 3873
    • Joined: 2013/09/30 10:08:24
    • Status: offline
    Re: audio interface for mixing only - need recommendations please 2015/03/25 12:59:02 (permalink)
    I second RME. Babyface is their entry model in USB.
    #13
    Jim Roseberry
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 9871
    • Joined: 2004/03/23 11:34:51
    • Location: Ohio
    • Status: offline
    Re: audio interface for mixing only - need recommendations please 2015/03/25 15:02:23 (permalink)
    Anything RME is exceptional.
    Of course, the cost reflects that.   

    Best Regards,

    Jim Roseberry
    jim@studiocat.com
    www.studiocat.com
    #14
    musicroom
    Max Output Level: -51 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2421
    • Joined: 2004/04/26 22:31:02
    • Status: offline
    Re: audio interface for mixing only - need recommendations please 2015/03/25 15:13:52 (permalink)
    roddey_phipps
    guy here complained of real problems using X3 and the tascam unit in his review

    http://www.amazon.com/TASCAM-US-2x2-USB-Audio-Interface/dp/B00MIXF2RS/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1427295407&sr=1-1&keywords=tascam+audio+interface


    I dont know, maybe these reviews are just one in a million problems... but that one was specific enough to spook me
     




     
    Could be a single shot data point. Don't know. However the UH-7000 from Tascam is a step up from the US-2x2.

     
    Dave
    Songs
    ___________________________________
    Desktop: Platinum / RME Multiface II / Purrfect Audio DAW  I7-3770 / 16 GB RAM / Win 10 Pro / Remote Laptop i7 6500U / 12GB RAM /  RME Babyface



     
     
    #15
    tlw
    Max Output Level: -49.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2567
    • Joined: 2008/10/11 22:06:32
    • Location: West Midlands, UK
    • Status: offline
    Re: audio interface for mixing only - need recommendations please 2015/03/25 15:22:09 (permalink)
    A smaller Focusrite (mains powered, not one powered by the USB port) or, depending on budget, RME Babyface would be my choice. Maybe a Roland.

    Monitor outputs really do need to be balanced though (assuming the monitors accept a balanced input) which means TRS jacks or XLR connectors.

    Sonar Platinum 64bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit, I7 3770K Ivybridge, 16GB Ram, Gigabyte Z77-D3H m/board,
    ATI 7750 graphics+ 1GB RAM, 2xIntel 520 series 220GB SSDs, 1 TB Samsung F3 + 1 TB WD HDDs, Seasonic fanless 460W psu, RME Fireface UFX, Focusrite Octopre.
    Assorted real synths, guitars, mandolins, diatonic accordions, percussion, fx and other stuff.
    #16
    AT
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 10654
    • Joined: 2004/01/09 10:42:46
    • Location: TeXaS
    • Status: offline
    Re: audio interface for mixing only - need recommendations please 2015/03/25 15:40:40 (permalink)
    Any product will receive bad reviews on Amazon or any manufacture's site.  People that have problems complain about it, even if it is there own damn fault, whereas if it is plug and play, who is gonna take the time to remark about it.  In the interface biz, they are making music not thanking Focusrite or Tascam for such wonderful hardware. 
     
    So of course they blame the product.  There were plenty of users here that wouldn't take the time to learn various "new Sonar" technology and kept coming to complain that Sonar was broke since it wouldn't work like it had.  The rest of use buckled up our groins and figured it out.  Most of us like the new way and it made sense once we got the hang of it.
     
    As I said above, even RME (the leader in driver compatibility) has problems on certain systems, not on the other 99%.  Just be able to return it.  Good for you most of these companies make various models of the same interfaces, which means you get the driver development without paying for more ins/outs.  You might find an output unit - there are audiophile units out there (I think Gearstluz had a "best-sounding" output unit they talked about a few years ago - you might want to search.  It was a relatively cheap Chinese product about your asking price).  But really, I'd just get a cheap commercial unit and return it if it doesn't work and get the unit from column B.
     
    @

    https://soundcloud.com/a-pleasure-dome
    http://www.bnoir-film.com/  
     
    there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
    24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
    #17
    Jump to:
    © 2025 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1